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Game Thread Ohio State @ Indiana - 09/14/19, 12:00PM (FOX)

Bottom-5 stadium in division 1 football. Nicer HS Fields in Texas and Ohio I bet. Had to walk past it every day on the way to class. Was fun getting hammered and going to random games though and of course when we visited when I was a sophomore.
 
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I can't say for sure because I haven't seen much of either one but in general I feel like any lower level P5 team is going to have better athletes across the board than UC will. IU has a better player at QB than UC and on defense that Ball kid is better than anyone UC has.

I think style differences matter as well. UC is an AAC version of Tresselball or MSU. They are in trouble playing that way when the other team has a clear athletic advantage (see last week).

IU will play a style that gives them more of a chance to actually win (I think). Dual threat QB with some B1G caliber athletes around him who aren't going to line up and try to Dave a better team to death.

End of the day, IU is at a disadvantage along both LOS at the very least and that usually spells doom. Turnovers and penalties are the only way the better team ever struggles with the lesser team and that’s what I think it will come down to a lot this year.

I know he didn’t play against OSU, but give me James Wiggins from UC over Marcelino Ball.

Ball is a really good player, though.
 
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PRESSER BULLETS: RYAN DAY, OHIO STATE COACHES AND PLAYERS RECAP CINCINNATI GAME, LOOK AHEAD TO THIRD GAME AGAINST INDIANA

Ohio State's third game week of the season is in full swing.

Coming off a 42-0 win over Cincinnati and gearing up for its first Big Ten game of the year at Indiana on Saturday (Noon, Fox), Ohio State coach Ryan Day, running backs coach Tony Alford, co-defensive coordinator Greg Mattison, quarterback Justin Fields, wide receiver K.J. Hill, linebacker Pete Werner and bullet Brendon White are meeting with the media at this week's Tuesday press conference.

As each coach and player completes their time with the media, we're posting updates from each of their question-and-answer sessions below.

Ryan Day:
  • On Binjimen Victor: "I think Ben's really going to be important to us going forward." Said he's the guy who has to fill the shoes of Parris Campbell, Terry McLaurin and Johnnie Dixon as a big-play threat in Ohio State's receiving corps.
  • Day said that despite Ohio State's 42-0 win over Cincinnati on Saturday, "the issues are on film," and those issues aren't going to go away unless the Buckeyes fix them. He said they have to focus on the process, not the result.
  • Day said he hasn't seen any big changes in Indiana's defensive scheme even though Kane Wommack is now running the defense now instead of Tom Allen.
  • On Master Teague: "He has run pretty hard on film the past two weeks, and if he can continue to practice the way he has the couple weeks ... we'll feel more comfortable with him handling more snaps in the games."
  • On Justin Fields' improvement from week one to week two: "Overall, it was solid, and we got to keep building on it." Likes what he's seen from Fields, but said Fields did take more hits against Cincinnati than he would like to see. Said he thinks Fields is playing with confidence, as he should be. "I think Mike Yurcich has done an excellent job" as Fields' quarterbacks coach, Day said. "To see the way he's worked with Justin here so far is remarkable."
  • Day said one reason why the Buckeyes haven't thrown as many crossers over the middle so far this season as they have in past seasons is because of Fields' inexperience and are trying to ramp up the game plans for him.
  • "As the level of competition increases, those windows are going to get tighter for Justin, those coverages are going to get tighter for the receivers."
  • On Jeff Okudah: "I think he's playing like a pro. He's approaching it that way ... He'll still tell you he's a long way away from being a finished product ... Year three in the program, he's killing it."
  • Day said Jaylen Harris has done a "really good job on special teams," which has enabled him to earn a spot in the wide receiver rotation.
  • On Austin Mack: "He's made some big, big catches for us," but Day still wants to see more production out of him. Said Mack was battling a hamstring injury during the preseason but he's getting healthier now.
  • Off the field, Day described Mack – the president of the student organization Redefining Athletic Standards – as a "very thoughtful young man."
  • On J.K. Dobbins' performance against Cincinnati: "I thought he ran hard with an edge to him." Thought he made "significant improvement" from week one to week two.
  • On Joe Burrow: "I couldn't be any prouder of a guy than Joe. The way he competed out there, the way he threw, he's come a long way since his freshman year." Said he watched the entire LSU-Texas game on Saturday night. "He looked like an NFL quarterback out there."
  • Day said he recruited new Indiana starting quarterback Michael Penix Jr. and isn't surprised to see him succeeding, describing him as "very talented." "I think he's going to have a really good career."
  • On Shaun Wade: "Very, very talented. Extremely talented." Said he can do a lot of things for the Ohio State defense and he expects him to have a great year.
  • Day said the Ohio State defense has a "chip on their shoulder" and "I love being around guys like that."
  • Day said the plan to win is to gain at least two first downs on offense and then control field position with its defense and special teams.
  • On Fields: "We want to get the point where he knows what's coming before the snap happens."
  • Day said the Buckeyes view Dobbins as their primary running back and expect him to see the majority of carries this year, unlike the past couple years with Dobbins split carries evenly for the most part with Mike Weber.
  • On teams losing to opponents they really shouldn't lose to: "If there was an easy answer for that, it wouldn't happen." To avoid that against Indiana this week, the Buckeyes need to make sure they prepare the same way they did last week and be at their best physically, mentally and emotionally.
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio...cinnati-game-look-ahead-to-third-game-against

Live Updates — Ryan Day’s Tuesday Presser, Sept. 10

Ohio State head coach Ryan Day will meet with reporters today at noon to look back at the game against Cincinnati and look ahead to Saturday’s matchup with the Indiana Hoosiers. We will have live updates here throughout his media sessions, so refresh for updates once the festivities get underway right around 12:00 pm.

+ It is amazing no matter where Ohio State goes, the number of Buckeye fans who travel. It’s unbelievable to feel their support on the road. “That’s special.”

+ If there was an easy answer to the losses at Purdue and Iowa the last two years, those losses wouldn’t happen. You have to bring it every single week, and you do that through preparation and make sure you’re better than you were the week before.

+ The play is never over with Justin Fields, so receivers have to stay alive on those scrambles. It’s an ongoing process of improvement.

+ JK Dobbins is the no. 1 back, so he’s going to get the bulk of the carries, but the other running backs have to support him. It depends on the number of plays in a drive at times. A long drive may require a substitution.

+ Justin Fields was “okay” and “good” in handling the running game reads and where his eyes were. But every time he plays, he’ll get better and better at that.

+ Day’s favorite aspect of this defense is that they’ve been through struggles and have the scars to show for it.

+ This defense allows the best version of the players to come out, but it’s still just two games in. These guys are hitting. Shaun Wade is extremely talented. He helps in a low

+ The most important job for his new defensive staff was stopping the run. It wasn’t going to come down to scheme, it was going to be about toughness. He also wanted to make sure there was a 4-down linemen look because that’s what Larry Johnson does.

+ IU QB Michael Penix is very talented. Ohio State recruited him. Day isn’t surprised he’s playing as a redshirt freshman. He has a good football IQ. “I think he’s going to have a very good career.” He’s mobile and accurate and he’s smart.

+ Day watched the entire LSU-Texas game. “I couldn’t be prouder of Joe [Burrow].” He’s playing at a high level.

+ JK Dobbins had a “funky” first game because the run fits weren’t great. The second game the line did a great job blocking for him and he ran tough. Dobbins had two great blocks last week against UC. He improved from week one to week two.

+ Austin Mack has made some big catches in his career. They need to be able to rely on him on third downs. He knows what it takes to be a wide receiver at Ohio State.

+ Jaylen Harris has done a good job on special teams, so when you do a good job on special teams, you deserve to play. He got in the game early on Saturday. Now he’s got to go prove it in a game.

+ Jeff Okudah is playing like a pro. He’s approaching it that way. He’s decisive on the field. He has experience and knows what to expect. Okudah will tell you he’s still a long, long way away from being a finished product. “He’s killing it.” He’s doing a great job as a gunner as well.

+ It’s hard to tell how good the run-after-catch abilities are with these receivers. Day is interested in finding out. They’re getting open though.

+ There isn’t as much throwing over the middle of the field because the game plan isn’t calling for it right now. They’re still getting Justin Fields comfortable as well. It’s all there, but there’s been more zone recently, so that has played a part in it as well.

+ The road is always an issue because noise is an issue on third downs and you have to ride the emotion of the crowd. But you still have to stop the run and play with toughness. That’s how you win on the road.

+ Justin Fields picked up from where he left off in week one. He made some good decisions, but took a couple of hits that he didn’t need to. It was a pretty clean game other than that. He got away with a couple of throws that he may not against better competition. Mike Yurcich gets a lot of credit for getting Fields ready for what he has seen so far.

+ Master Teague didn’t practice much in the preseason, but has run hard in the last two weeks. If he practices like he plays, he’ll get into a rhythm and have an impact on this team.

+ There have not been any dramatic differences with Indiana’s offense or defense despite new coordinators.

+ Indiana has a good team now a couple of years into their defense. Going on the road in the conference is always tough, especially at Indiana.

+ Binjimen Victor is important as this team goes forward. As the X receiver, if he can win those one-on-one battles, that changes how a defense defends you. He has to win those now in conference play as well.

+ How do they keep the players from feeling too good about themselves, Day said the messages are still in the film. Immature players and coaches thinking winning means everything is good. Film tells the truth and veterans can identify those issues and be critical of themselves. So you keep hammering on that to the younger players.

Entire article: https://theozone.net/2019/09/live-updates-ryan-days-tuesday-presser-sept-10/

If you are quick it is still going on live:

Live Updates from Greg Mattison, Tony Alford, Justin Fields, More

Greg Mattison
+ The snaps for the Bullet and the Sam are dependent on the opponent and what they are running against the OSU defense. Tempo also affects those numbers.

+ Asked how talented this defense is, Mattison said he was impressed the first time he saw them in the weight room. They have the opportunity to be what they want to be, but every week you have to be hungrier. “You can’t have a let down.”

+ When you have players who have bought in and wants to be a part of success, they can have smaller roles they can do and take pride in and work hard on. This defense has done a great job of that, and they stay ready to go in with whatever package they specialize in. Players aren’t complaining about the lack of playing time because they trust each other to help this team win and they know the guy behind them can keep things going while they are out.

+ When you go on the road, it’s “you guys.” It’s a small group and you’ve really got to trust each other. You’re walking into an alley.

+ Indiana is a very, very good football team. Indiana is always well coached and they play hard. “They are going to be a very big test.” They have a mobile quarterback and they’re not afraid to spread it out. They also run tempo, so the defense is going to have to keep up.

+ The run defense is taking great pride in their technique and they’re playing hard. They are running to the football and play with great effort. When you do that, your missed tackles and big plays go down. “Our guys have bought into that.”

+ The dual-threat college quarterback poses more problems than pocket passers. When you have a guy that can scramble, it affects everybody on the defense. When you have a pocket passer, you look at the secondary and hope they can hold up. Why is it different in the NFL? Because they pay quarterbacks a lot of money and they have to protect their investments.

+ Where can they get better? Every player can get better on his technique.

+ Mattison doesn’t care what happened before on defense. He only cares about what he saw in camp and in practices and in workouts. “I don’t know what it was before. It doesn’t matter. I know what I see every day.”

+ When you have four guys who can rush the passer, then it becomes a pick your poison situation. The offense can double whoever they want, but that won’t stop the pass rush.

+ It’s great having Chase Young, and not just him. The guys on the back end have been great as well. The Tuf Borland interception was a great play by Shaun Wade. Yes, it’s fun having Chase Young, but it’s fun looking up and down the line. The linebackers have been great too. And everybody knows they can better.

+ How much the Bullet plays is dependent on the opponent. Brendon White knows that. He trusts the system and he knows that’s what this defense does.

+ It’s great working at a place where the special teams is as important as the offense and defense, and when they pin teams inside the 10-yard line, it makes things great for the defense.

+ He doesn’t know if it’s harder to find elite defensive linemen. You can always find them. It’s what happens when they get here, and that’s a tribute to Larry Johnson. It’s not about finding players. That’s a given. It’s what you do when they get here.

Tony Alford
+ This year, Dobbins is finishing runs better. He’s stronger. He blocks better now than he did as a freshman. Having JT Barrett at quarterback in 2017 helped Dobbins some as well. Hopefully Fields and Dobbins can get to that level, but the offense is different than it was back then.

+ The no. 2 RB is very situational because Demario McCall and Master Teague.

+ Demario McCall is a guy who can be a matchup problem, so they have to find where those matchup issues are and can be, and then go to work on those and put him in situations that are conducive to him and the offense.

+ The freshman running backs “are gonna be really good players here.” They’re hungry to learn. They are grasping the attention to detail and how necessary it is every day.

+ If you’re competitive, it hurts and bothers you when you lose out on recruits. “I don’t like to lose. So does it bother me? Hell yeah it bothers me.”

+ It is critical that the RBs hold up in the blocking game more this year with a quarterback who can extend plays. The backs have allowed two big hits on their quarterback this year and Alford isn’t happy about that.

+ Indiana has played Ohio State very well over the last few years. It will take a great week of practice.

+ The Cincinnati game was far from flawless. “We’re not where we need to be.” You find things you need to be better at and you go right back to work. And you also enhance what you did well. That’s everybody in the program.

+ Running back recruiting is going fine.

+ Master Teague runs really hard and he attacks defenders. They are becoming more and more comfortable with him and he is earning himself more playing time.

+ The Dobbins block on Justin Fields’ touchdown run carries more weight than the 60-yard run because nobody touched him on the run. Blocking like that takes dedication.

+ JK Dobbins still has some improving to do in his all-around game like everyone else.

Entire article: https://theozone.net/2019/09/live-updates-greg-mattison-tony-alford-justin-fields/

WATCH: Ryan Day, Greg Mattison, Justin Fields Preview Indiana







Videos of the completed interviews: https://theozone.net/2019/09/watch-ryan-day-greg-mattison-justin-fields-preview-indiana/
 
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It seems reasonable to me that IU’s defense is better than recent years. Shutting out ANYONE seems an improvement to me (could be wrong). It also seems reasonable that their new qb has more arm talent than anyone who’s been there, even if I’m basing it only on the word of a fan of theirs. He follows that team; we don’t.

It also seems reasonable that he is completely unaware of how special this Ohio State team looks to us.

Special OSU vs Special IU

Sounds like a recipe for the usual result: 3-4 touchdowns
 
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It seems reasonable to me that IU’s defense is better than recent years. Shutting out ANYONE seems an improvement to me (could be wrong). It also seems reasonable that their new qb has more arm talent than anyone who’s been there, even if I’m basing it only on the word of a fan of theirs. He follows that team; we don’t.

It also seems reasonable that he is completely unaware of how special this Ohio State team looks to us.

Special OSU vs Special IU

Sounds like a recipe for the usual result: 3-4 touchdowns
I mean they shut out a 1AA team?

I'd be shocked if this defense is anywhere as good as it was with Scales, their other LB, their NFL corner, and that DT they had.
 
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I mean they shut out a 1AA team?

I'd be shocked if this defense is anywhere as good as it was with Scales, their other LB, their NFL corner, and that DT they had.

Show some respect now; that 1AA team won 3 games last year. And they managed 10 points vs Chattanooga in week 1.

Seriously though...

Special IU shuts out 1AA teams and Rutgers. A 1AA team and Rutgers in 2017 and last Saturday vs E Illinois; that’s all of their shutouts since 1993... That’s their high-water mark, defensively.

Special OSU shuts out West champion Wisconsin.

It’s a different standard
 
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Show some respect now; that 1AA team won 3 games last year. And they managed 10 points vs Chattanooga in week 1.
LOL... Well in all honesty It'll be quite the adjustment for IU to go from playing 1AA to us. Whereas UC and FAU gave us a good look overall (FAU on offense and UC on defense).

I concede IU is better than UC but IMO not drastically... if we play turnover free I like us fairly big.
 
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Oh for fucks sake, do we really need to browbeat every visitor that comes here? Of course he believes his team is decent and might be capable of playing ok. Couldn’t we just say ok and move along without chasing the guy away.
Yeah I agree... that's my bad.

Apologies to the guest and hopefully he sees this. Overall, we (and definitely me) probably are a little anxious about this game since it'll be the best team we've played.
 
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Oh for fucks sake, do we really need to browbeat every visitor that comes here? Of course he believes his team is decent and might be capable of playing ok. Couldn’t we just say ok and move along without chasing the guy away.

My original thought when starting my post was conciliatory. That’s why I conceded that this may well be a special IU team. Then I looked up what it means to be a special IU team. It’s just the fact of the matter; it’s a different standard.
 
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My original thought when starting my post was conciliatory. That’s why I conceded that this may well be a special IU team. Then I looked up what it means to be a special IU team. It’s just the fact of the matter; it’s a different standard.
I get it. And I get that any visitor coming to this board probably thinks of their team more highly than they should (we do the same). I just don’t see the need to put them down. This board used to be a lot more vibrant than it is today, largely because message boards are dinosaurs of the Internet. But it would be great to add a few new people. Frankly, it’s been nice to have some visitors like our LSU, GA, and Florida alums. I always liked guys like Methomps, wish people like that were still around.
 
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I get it. And I get that any visitor coming to this board probably thinks of their team more highly than they should (we do the same). I just don’t see the need to put them down. This board used to be a lot more vibrant than it is today, largely because message boards are dinosaurs of the Internet. But it would be great to add a few new people. Frankly, it’s been nice to have some visitors like our LSU, GA, and Florida alums. I always liked guys like Methomps, wish people like that were still around.

Well after you beat BSU by 10 and Eastern Illinois why thump your chest? Then degrade a team like Cincy? Cincy beat a PAC12 team by double digits...Indiana has yet to play a P5 team.

As long as they come back and talk football after we beat the tar out of them. If we play anywhere near the way we played against Cincy we will slaughter them.

I personally think it's delusional to put down Cincy when they have play two P5 teams. Cincy deserves credit for scheduling PAC12 and B10 teams OOC. Beating UCLA in back to back seasons is huge for Cincy. It's silly especially considering Buckeyes coach at Cincy.
 
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This board used to be a lot more vibrant than it is today, largely because message boards are dinosaurs of the Internet.


Dinosaur BP

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