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Ohio State Football History/Tidbits

History of the buckeye, in a nutshell

Ann K McKiernan

Issue date: 11/17/00 Section: Campus
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Media Credit: Melissa Miller
Buckeyes are not only available on
trees but in necklaces too.

Throughout the country, colleges are associated with their mascots or symbols. Florida has the Gator, Notre Dame has the Fighting Irish, Pittsburgh has the Panther, and Yale has the Bulldog. Some are fierce while others are mighty. How, then, does Ohio’s Buckeye, a nut, fall in to the whole scheme of collegiate mascots?

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History of the buckeye, in a nutshell - Campus
 
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I was bored and decided to look at a different way to rate each OSU head Coach. I looked at where OSU ranked in win % for all of major CFB during their tenure. See what you think.

Couple of notes first, I only used Wilce,Williaman, Schmidt, Woody, Earl, Coop and now JT because they are the only ones who have coached 5 years or more since 1900. Also in the early guys, I did not filter out anyone because quite frankly I do not know which schools were major or minor back then. For the modern guys I took out the Marshall's and Boise State's. Its rank among BCS schools.

John Wilce 1913-1928
78-33-9 .688%
Tied for 32nd in all CFB for that time.

Sam Willaman 1929-1933
26-10-5 .695%
Tied for 33rd in all CFB for that time.

Francis A Schmidt 1934-1940
39-16-1 .705%
Good for 23rd in all CFB for that time.

Woody Hayes 1951-1978
205-61-10 .761%
Good for 2nd in all CFB for that time.

Earl Bruce 1979-1987
81-26-1 .755%
Good for 6th in all CFB for that time.

John F Cooper 1988-2000
111-43-4 .715%
Good for 10th in all CFB for that time.

Jim Tressel 2001-2006 (for these stats)
62-14 .816%
Good for 3rd in all CFB for that time.


Of course this is just one way to look, record in The Game, NC's B10 titles etc all factor in as well.

Shows me what I think we all pretty much knew. Woody was the man, Earl was a slight step down bu respectable, Coop wasn't fucking cutting it and JT is working on taking over the #1 spot.

One more concrete example of what a golden era we are in right now.
 
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It's interesting that with all the talk about parity that Woody was #2 nationally with a winning percentage that was a good bit lower than Tressel yet Coach T's record is "only" third highest over his tenure.

I'm sure that's probably just an artifact of the large difference in sampling sizes, but still interesting nonetheless.
 
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Muck;956441; said:
It's interesting that with all the talk about parity that Woody was #2 nationally with a winning percentage that was a good bit lower than Tressel yet Coach T's record is "only" third highest over his tenure.

I'm sure that's probably just an artifact of the large difference in sampling sizes, but still interesting nonetheless.


Sample size is correct. The two teams ahead of us under JT are Texas and USC. It looks like right now JT will make up some ground this year and they weren't ahead by much.
 
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Any reason why your stats in the thread for JT don't match the stats in your sig? Somehow there's a 6 win difference.

I think if my math is right, your sig is correct.

Edit: duh.... you mentioned it was through 2006. Crap, maybe it's time for bed.
 
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Championship Rosters

Hey everyone,
I am new to the site. I feel like I have just found a gold mine here. It looks like I have a new place to waste away my day. Anyways, I am looking for any help tracking down rosters from the OSU championship seasons (I already have the 2002 roster). Any help would be appreciated. Thanks and GO BUCKS
 
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Jaxbuck;956747; said:
Sample size is correct. The two teams ahead of us under JT are Texas and USC. It looks like right now JT will make up some ground this year and they weren't ahead by much.

I was thinking more along the lines of modern "parity" in CFB given that the top teams seem to have a much higher win percentage than those at the top 40 years ago.
 
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ABJ

Bowl games really add up for Buckeyes Too bad for Ohio State, it loses more than it wins
By Rusty Miller
Associated Press

Published on Tuesday, Dec 25, 2007
COLUMBUS: Ohio State will be playing in its third national championship game in the last six seasons when it takes on LSU on Jan. 7 in New Orleans.
So what, coach Jim Tressel says.
''Do we get any points for that?'' he joked. ''Do we get a two-point start because of that?''
No,
there's no advantage to being in the national spotlight so often ? unless you win. And despite a glorious tradition ? 118 seasons, 798 wins, seven Heisman Trophy winners and a building full of trophies ? the Buckeyes have fallen short of doing even better over the years because they have come up empty-handed in bowl games.


Cont...
 
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I thought you all might enjoy this;


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OSU 50 --UM 20


[SIZE=+1]Ann Arbor, Nov. 25, 1961[/SIZE]
The Ohio State University Monthly: December, 1961



OHIO STATE 50 Michigan 20



Two years ago, shortly after Michigan pasted Ohio State with a 23-14 loss that dropped the Buckeyes to ninth place in the Conference, Coach Woody Hayes told a Football Appreciation Banquet crowd:


". . . I guarantee (a championship) in two years. If I don't bring you a championship then, this is no place for Woody Hayes."

On Nov. 25, the master tactician delivered. The Buckeyes ran roughshod over an upset-bent bunch of Wolverines from Michigan, 50-20, to end the season with an unbeaten record. A Wisconsin upset of Minnesota left the Bucks un­disputed champions not only "of the west" as the Michigan victory song goes, but ofthe Big Ten as well.
Battle lines were quickly drawn when Ohio State took the opening kickoff and on the fourth play had a pass intercepted by Michigan. The Bucks held the Wolverines for downs and after one more punt exchange, Tidmore intercepted a Michigan pass on the Wolverine 35. In five plays, the Bucks scored, with Ferguson racing over from the 19. Van Raaphorst's conversion was good.

In the second quarter, the Bucks scored after moving the ball from their own 45 in seven plays, one a 30-yard pass from Sparma to Ricketts. The con­version made it Ohio State 14, Michi­gan 0.
The Wolverines took the kick-off and Raimey raced from the 10 down the east sideline to score. It was a beautiful run, with Raimey breaking in the clear at the 40 and going on untouched. Michigan attempted a two-point conversion but missed.

Ohio State started on its own 20, worked to a first down on the 31 in three plays. Then Warfield took a hand­off around right end and raced for the goal. He stutter-stepped so well before the Wolverine safety that the defender tripped, fell backward and permitted Warfield to score untouched. As the half ended, it was Ohio State 21, Michigan 6.
Michigan dominated play most ofthe third quarter, scoring after grinding out short but consistent yardage. The con­version attempt failed and the score was 21-12 in favor of Ohio State. When the quarter drew to a close, Ohio State was fighting back and had moved the ball to the Michigan two.

As the fourth quarter started, Ferguson slammed over for a score. Van Raap­horst converted and the scoreboard read, Ohio State 28, Michigan 12.
As Michigan fought to get back into the game, Houck intercepted a pass and in three minutes, Ohio State had made it 35-12.

It took another five minutes to hold the Wolverines for downs, take the punt and in five plays rack up another score. Ohio State 42, Michigan 12. The Wolverines, determined as ever, came back to score in 11 plays, includ­ing their "flea-flicker," in which the runner lateraled back when tackled to a trailing halfback. They were successful in a two-point conversion and the score was Ohio State 42, Michigan 20.
With 34 seconds showing on the clock, Ohio State took the kick-off on its own 20. Sparma passed to Warfield for a 70­yard gain and a first down on the Michi­gan 10. Two passes were incomplete and then Sparma hit Tidmore on the five and Tidmore wriggled his way over for the score. A Sparma to Tidmore pass made a two-point conversion and settled the final score with five seconds left on the clock: Ohio State 50, Michi­gan 20.
The jubilant players hoisted Hayes to their shoulders and carried him trium&shy:wink2:hantly to the dressing room. Woody later hailed the game as the best offen­sive effort of the season, thought the defensive game was a little short of being the Bucks' best. He was enthusiastic in his praise of Bob Ferguson ("the greatest fullback since I've been at Ohio State") as well as Quarterback Joe Sparma, Halfbacks Bob Klein and Paul Warfield.
When questioned about the Rose Bowl, Hayes refused to issue a public statement at the time.

He praised the play of Michigan's Dave Raimey, said credit had to be given the Wolverines for fighting a good game despite injuries earlier in the sea­son that had crippled them somewhat.
The domination by Ohio State was evidenced no better than in the statistics: net yards gained, 512 to Michigan's 271.
 
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Dispatch
Twice-as-nice conversion became an OSU first in 1958

Wednesday, September 24, 2008 1:29 AM
By Jack Park


BuckeyeXtra.com
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Dick LeBeau (44) scored Ohio State's first-ever two-point conversion, on a pass from Frank Kremblas.

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Jack Park, a leading Ohio State football historian, checks in each week during the college football season with a retrospective about the Buckeyes. When Ohio State fielded its first football team in 1890, touchdowns were worth four points, field goals five points, conversions two points and safeties two points. In 1898 touchdowns went from four to five points, and conversions were reduced from two points to one. Field goals were reduced from five points to four in 1904 -- and further reduced to three points in 1909. Touchdowns were increased from five to six points in 1912.
There were no further changes until 1958, when the two-point conversion option was first introduced. This week's Big Ten Conference opener against Minnesota will mark the exact 50th anniversary of the Buckeyes' first two-point conversion, on Saturday, Sept. 27, 1958.
It was the season-opener against the Southern Methodist Mustangs, and Ohio State won a thriller that afternoon, 23-20. Halfback Don Clark scored Ohio State's first two touchdowns and was the game's leading rusher with 98 yards. After Clark's first TD, coach Woody Hayes surprised a lot of fans by choosing a two-point conversion attempt instead of a point-after kick. Quarterback Frank Kremblas passed 3 yards to halfback Dick LeBeau for what was Ohio State's first-ever two-point conversion.
SMU was led by quarterback Don Meredith, who frequently passed from the spread formation and finished the afternoon with 213 yards on 19 completions.
Cont...
 
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1954

This just in from the Alumni Association. I saw my first game in the shoe during the '53 season and my first Michigan game the next year, a classic with the Bucks stopping Michigan on a first and goal at the three and then Cassady got loose up the sideline and the game turned.

Enjoy

Ohio State Alumni: FROM THE ARCHIVES: 20-7--THE HARD WAY
 
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I was just a kid myself then and it was the first time I ever saw a buckeye game. This article brought back great memories for me. 24 years later i finally made a trip with my ex to a game in the "Shoe" against the Hawkeyes and being there sent goosebumps as we all sang "Carmen" Wow it all seemed like yesterday.
 
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