Game Thread Ohio State 20, Wisconsin 17 (Oct. 4)

[osugrad21]

I know what "fify" means. Thanks.

Another member alerted me to the inside joke about the scoring more points. I just signed up, so I didn't know.

Now. Do you want to talk about the game or just jab at each other in the ribs? I'm good with both. You will lose one and we all can have fun on the other.

With that in mind. I trend towards Wisconsin getting themselves in managable third down situations as being important. For the Buckeyes I think they need to throw downfield early to back out the eight in the box that we are going to throw at Pryor.

Thoughts?

Beckum scares me always has. Can tOSU make Wisky throw more than they wish? Which defense can get off the field the most on 3rd down and medium? Which OL will control the trench?

 

[morbitzerker]

I think UW has the ability to attack tOSU where it has been a weakness, right up the middle. UW has big, bruising backs, and look at what Hester was able to do. tOSU has had trouble stopping third downs, and if UW can get third and managable, they have the chance to keep the D on the field, keep momentum and control the clock.

 

[BadgerNation]

I think UW has the ability to attack tOSU where it has been a weakness, right up the middle. UW has big, bruising backs, and look at what Hester was able to do. tOSU has had trouble stopping third downs, and if UW can get third and managable, they have the chance to keep the D on the field, keep momentum and control the clock.

Great insight!! I hope the Badgers can do this and do it with multiple backs to further wear down the interior of the defense.

OSUGrad and Miliani both touched on points that are going to come into play. How healthy are Travis and Beanie? They are going to play mind you, but at what percentage of their normal selves?

Finally, to Miliani, Pryor is the X factor. I can promise you that an umbrella defense is going to be deployed by Wisconsin at the start of the game. Like it or not, Pryor is going to have to complete some throws early. If that happens, I don't like our chances. If Ohio State becomes one-dimensional (Beanie run, Pryor run) then the scales tip to the Badgers.

Can the Badger offensive line get to the second level? Can Pryor perform under the pressure of his first real test?

It's going to be fun.

 

[rocketman]

Can the Badger offensive line get to the second level? Can Pryor perform under the pressure of his first real test?

It's going to be fun.

Our D-Line this year is... not... where we would like them to be... at this point in the year. [Tressel] Any time you don't perform as well as you planned on performing, you'll be disappointed. [/Tressel] As noted above, our inability to stop the inside running game against power backs has been a disturbing trend.

On Pryor... He has done some very un--freshman-ish things - at times making better decisions than our last Heisman winner did as a redshirt junior, firing up our team on the sidelines, giving coherent, insightful TV interviews, etc. All that on top of being stupidly talented. However, he has yet to be successful on the road. None of us really know what will happen. All we know is if he plays within himself, he will burn you.

 

[JXC]

I HATE comparing Troy and Pryor...but I remember how the road atmosphere got to Troy in the 2005 Penn State game. Troy came back the next year for a big road game at Texas. Sometimes a QB can struggle in his first big night road game. Wisconsin and Penn State are the two places that have the most game changing atmosphere in night games in the Big Ten. This is different than the USC game, because the team is now Pryor's, and he will be expected to stay cool all game under pressure of the Wisky D, and the Wisky fans. How Pryor deals with the crowd noise and atmosphere will be huge. Maybe he learned some things from the USC game, but like I said this will be different. A true test of what Pryor is made of. If Pryor can lead the team to victory this Saturday, then I think he will have proved something that it sometimes takes OSU QBs a little time to do...that he can win huge Big Ten games on the road.

My feeling right now is that he will. He's doing all the right things. I don't expect perfection, but I think he's going to shut up that Badger crowd early and often. Go Bucks!

 

[Sportsbuck28]

I HATE comparing Troy and Pryor...but I remember how the road atmosphere got to Troy in the 2005 Penn State game. Troy came back the next year for a big road game at Texas. Sometimes a QB can struggle in his first big night road game. Wisconsin and Penn State are the two places that have the most game changing atmosphere in night games in the Big Ten. This is different than the USC game, because the team is now Pryor's, and he will be expected to stay cool all game under pressure of the Wisky D, and the Wisky fans. How Pryor deals with the crowd noise and atmosphere will be huge. Maybe he learned some things from the USC game, but like I said this will be different. A true test of what Pryor is made of. If Pryor can lead the team to victory this Saturday, then I think he will have proved something that it sometimes takes OSU QBs a little time to do...that he can win huge Big Ten games on the road.

My feeling right now is that he will. He's doing all the right things. I don't expect perfection, but I think he's going to shut up that Badger crowd early and often. Go Bucks!

A but if satisfaction you can take is that the Wisky D is nothing like the 05 PSU D..

 

[Sportsbuck28]

Great insight!! I hope the Badgers can do this and do it with multiple backs to further wear down the interior of the defense.

OSUGrad and Miliani both touched on points that are going to come into play. How healthy are Travis and Beanie? They are going to play mind you, but at what percentage of their normal selves?

Finally, to Miliani, Pryor is the X factor. I can promise you that an umbrella defense is going to be deployed by Wisconsin at the start of the game. Like it or not, Pryor is going to have to complete some throws early. If that happens, I don't like our chances. If Ohio State becomes one-dimensional (Beanie run, Pryor run) then the scales tip to the Badgers.

Can the Badger offensive line get to the second level? Can Pryor perform under the pressure of his first real test?

It's going to be fun.

How good are Wisky's CB's? I know that you guys had to replace Jack Ikeguwaniu (IDK how to spell it) but I wasn't sure outside of that..

And I already posted this in the Pryor thread but since its about Wisky I'll post it here as well... how they've performed against mobile QB's.

Juice Williams in 07: 12/19 121 yards 1 TD; 14 car 92 yards (Worth noting that Mendenhall ran for 160 yards on 18 carries including a 32 yard TD run) L 31-26

Kellen Lewis in 07: 17/33 133 yards 2 INT; 14 car 59 yards (RB ran for 7- yards on 11 carries) W 33-3

Juice Williams in 06: 13/29 171 yards 1 TD 1 INT; 19 car 53 yards (Mendenhall ran 8 times for 26 yards) W 30-24

Michael Robinson in 05: 13/28 238 yards 2 TD 2 INT; 16 car 125 yards (Tony Hunt ran 24 times for 151 yards and 2 TD's) L 35-14

 

[JXC]

A but if satisfaction you can take is that the Wisky D is nothing like the 05 PSU D..

Very true...they made Threet look like an all-american...okay not really, but how in the hell do you lose a 19 point lead to a Threet-led Michigan.

 

[sparcboxbuck]

Can tOSU make Wisky throw more than they wish with out them scoring more points than tOSU? Which defense can get off the field the most on 3rd down and medium without letting the other team score more points? Which OL will control the trench and score more points than the other team?

Grad's finally figured out the keys to the game.



Likely to burn in hell for that...

 

[daddyphatsacs]

If Ohio State becomes one-dimensional (Beanie run, Pryor run) then the scales tip to the Badgers.

One dimensional is only a term that can used when Pryor is off the field. Pryor has given the Buckeye offense the dimension that they can always run option now, or Pryor can take off when passing.

I think that Wisky D is custom built for the old Big Ten. Michigan got to them last week, I think they opened up a wound for Wisky down the stretch. OSU will pick at em with Pryor.....I think he could break through this week. Wisky "d" has not seen an athlete like Pryor in a long while. Let's do this thing. (I really have a strong dislike for Wisconsin......got to be honest here).

 

[osugrad21]

CPD

Can Buckeyes avoid being swamped by the red sea of Badgers' crazed Camp Randall?

by Doug Lesmerises Tuesday September 30, 2008, 10:34 PM


Check out a typical day in the Camp Randall stands

COLUMBUS -- None of the Ohio State players have played at Wisconsin before and the way they tell it, Camp Randall Stadium is some sort of asylum.
"I heard the atmosphere is crazy. I think the fans are crazy," defensive end Lawrence Wilson said.
"We heard it's real crazy," cornerback Chimdi Chekwa said.
"I talked to [former Buckeye] Brandon Mitchell when he was here, and he told me the crowd throws batteries and nickels in marshmallows," safety Anderson Russell said. "So I'm expecting a wild and crazy atmosphere."
The No. 14 Buckeyes will experience it first-hand on Saturday night against the No. 18 Badgers, with the mythology heightened by a scheduling quirk that hasn't sent the Buckeyes to Madison since 2003. That year, Ohio State was ranked No. 3 and lost, 17-10, to the No. 23 Badgers. Starting in 2004 in OSU's absence, Wisconsin has gone 27-1 at home, and its 16-game home win streak is the second-longest in the country.
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[osugrad21]

Blade

Beating Badgers lucky for Bucks as recent wins have meant titles for OSU
By MATT MARKEY
BLADE SPORTS WRITER
COLUMBUS - As a three-time defending champion of the Big Ten Conference, and the pre-season favorite to win a fourth title in a row, Ohio State has to expect the worst, which translates into everyone's best shot coming the Buckeyes' way. Around the rest of the Big Ten, they all want the notoriety associated with knocking the king off the mountain. The biggest threat to any perceived supremacy has to be the next opponent, and this week that's the same team the pre-season polls had picked as Ohio State's primary challenger in the Big Ten - Wisconsin. The Badgers that would be king have won 43 games over the last five seasons, second only to Ohio State (45) among Big Ten teams. "The thing we've seen over and over again is that if you go into a Big Ten game and you are not as prepared and focused as you need to be, there's a good chance you are going to get beat," Ohio State coach Jim Tressel said when he looked at the Buckeyes' schedule and saw a night game against Wisconsin as the second outing in Big Ten play.
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[osugrad21]

BSB$--Wisconsin provides physical throwback game

BSB$--Buckeyes preparing for hostile environment

BSB$--We've Only Just Begun

 

[osugrad21]

Link

UW football: 2003 win over Ohio State one for the books

Jim Polzin ? 10/01/2008 5:37 am
The hype had been building for nearly two months, from the time the 2003 University of Wisconsin football team gathered privately in preseason training camp and declared as one of its team goals that it wanted to make sure there was a lot on the line for its Oct. 11 game against Ohio State.
"Even before the first game," UW radio play-by-play announcer Matt Lepay said, "it was obvious that there was part of that team that had its sights set on that Ohio State game."
The Badgers did their part to make it a big game by winning six of their first seven games, the only setback being an embarrassing 23-5 home loss to UNLV. UW stood 2-0 in the Big Ten Conference and was ranked No. 23 in the nation heading into the Ohio State game.
And the defending national champion Buckeyes did their part, winning their first five games of the season to extend their winning streak to 19 games. Ohio State stood 1-0 in league play and was ranked No. 3.
More than 300 media credentials had been issued for the game. By kickoff time at 8:10 p.m., most of the 79,793 fans who passed through the Camp Randall Stadium turnstiles had settled in their seats for a showdown that was televised nationally by ESPN. There was a buzz in the air -- quite literally in some cases, since fans had the entire day to party. There was also rain in the air -- heavy rain, and sometimes it was even blowing sideways.
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[osugrad21]

Dispatch

Horror stories get Buckeyes' attention
Camp Randall not an easy place to play
Wednesday, October 1, 2008 3:16 AM
By Ken Gordon


THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

File Photo | Dispatch
Wisconsin fans create an unruly environment at Camp Randall Stadium.

Like youngsters gathered around the campfire for ghost stories, Ohio State's football players have been forewarned about their trip to Wisconsin on Saturday. Listen up, kids, the coaches have said. Camp Randall Stadium is loud. But not just that -- it's obnoxious. And the fans whoo-boy, wait until you see this.
"From what I've heard, the fans are even physical, not just the players," guard Jim Cordle said. "They throw pennies in marshmallows, and batteries, and the 'Jump Around,' that will be fun for us, too.
"But they'll be very I guess you can call them violent."
The Ohio State players only have these "as told to" stories to go by, because none of them has played a game at Wisconsin. The last time the Buckeyes went there was in 2003, when the Badgers won 17-10 to snap OSU's 19-game winning streak.
So the coaching staff put together a video, with cut-ups of the famous Jump Around that happens there every game between the third and fourth quarters. That's when the House of Pain song is played, and for about 90 seconds Camp Randall literally bounces as 80,000 people engage in group calisthenics.
Even queuing it up on YouTube is enough to give someone vertigo.
"I heard the atmosphere was crazy," defensive end Lawrence Wilson said.
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