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Jury will be out for a while on him as an OC but he has to be among the very best position coaches to ever do it.
It’s absurd.
It’s absurd.
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No, he’s doing a great job, especially in timing plays. He has a sense of when to go to the air, and even more importantly what receivers should be featured based on tape and gameplay. He sees how the receivers are being checked and gives Sayin a few solid checkdown options.
The run game play calls need some work and creativity. There’s also some syncing that him and Day need to do for short yardage plays, timeouts, etc. Hartline will be molded into a pretty great OC under Day, just going to take some fine tuning and time. Pretty cool to see him cut his teeth this year.
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OregonBuckeye
Semper Fi Buckeyes
I've heard praise for the run game blocking schemes by color commentators. Can't say I know enough to agree/disagree, but it seems like it's just some early season clunkiness in execution and a bit of conservative playcalling that has kept the run game from flourishing so far
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Buckeye86
I do not choose to discuss it
I think he’s gotten a little too cute with the TEs so far, thinking too much about how to use them versus just playing to your strength with 3-4 WRs on the field.
That said, lots of TEs coincided with the growth plan they had in place for Sayin, and I’m slightly hopeful they’re putting a million tight end things on tape for teams to think about and prepare for, and then when they need/want to they can bust out a four wide as a fun surprise later in the year.
On the other hand, my nightmare is trying to get cute with TEs and pounding the ball on the ground and running into a buzz saw at the end of November trying that exact thing for the fifth year in a row.
That’s a hypothetical future concern, and there’s a lot to enjoy between now and then, but it continues to be in the back of my mind -as with line up with three TEs and run it on 1st and 20 against Washington - until we show we’re not going to fall into that trap once again at the end of the year.
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I would not take it well if, indeed, Hartline would take the PSU job...
I understand it would be a fabulous opportunity for him, personally and professionally
but I'd be crushed
I understand it would be a fabulous opportunity for him, personally and professionally
but I'd be crushed
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osuvictory1
Just a schlub from Y-town
It's kind of a risky move for both. He just became OC, and is the best position coach in the US. There is more to work with at PSU than many other universities, so if he knew what he was doing, he could be successful.
However, after the Franklin years, PSU probably wants kind of a stable forces coming into the program.
My gut says that being HC at OSU in a couple years is Hartline's aspiration. If this becomes another Fickel type situation, where he just doesn't succeed for whatever reason, OSU will not hire him in the future.
So it's a gamble for both, but looking at the landscape, there are many coordinators also succeeding as HC, and also many what seemed like great up and comer HC's crapping the bed.
He would be wise to probably do at least another year as OC at OSU in my opinion, which is worthless, and try to really find a mutually beneficial strategic career minded HC position someplace.
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RugbyBuck
Our church has no bells.
I think there's a tacit understanding that he will be next in line after Day. I also don't think it will be until he's ready. When I hear him in interviews it's pretty clear that the standards for the WR room are those he has for himself. You don't see the field until you're ready. He seems to want to learn as much as he can and move forward. That's how he's been since he showed up as a volunteer and he's taken each step seriously. Day's pretty young, but at some point he'll be ready to hand over the keys and I hope their timelines mesh. I don't think HC experience elsewhere is necessary for him as long as he gets the right "coaching" so that he's ready when it's time.
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Onebuckfan
classof76
Hartline not ready to be a CEO of a multimillion dollar entity. He needs time and experience..,,,what he is doing now is WR coach, recruiter and OC intern . Hes not fully in charge of the offense and would guess he has less autonomy than Chip. Give it time to grow..if he leaves for one of these openings..they won’t give him time to master the HC job.
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He's doing fine as OC (he's not an intern 
) and is still the best position coach in CFB.
That's probably enough for him right now. While he might take the interview and there will always be smoke around the coordinators for a school like Ohio State, I don't necessarily think being a Head Coach "right now" is a main driving force for him.
) and is still the best position coach in CFB.That's probably enough for him right now. While he might take the interview and there will always be smoke around the coordinators for a school like Ohio State, I don't necessarily think being a Head Coach "right now" is a main driving force for him.
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