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OBSERVATIONS FROM THE BARCALOUNGER - ILLINI

Oh8ch

Cognoscente of Omphaloskepsis
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1. TEN AND OH

West Virginia 34
Louisville 44

Wake Forest 17
Clemson 27

Wisconsin 13
Michigan 27

Texas 7
Ohio State 24

California 18
Tennessee 35

USC 31
Oregon St 33

Florida 17
Auburn 27

Arkansas 14
USC 50

Auburn 10
Arkansas 27

Notre Dame 21
Michigan 47

Does anybody REALLY have a problem with Ohio State 17 - Illinois 10?


2. WHAT HAPPENED

On their first six series OSU ran 49 plays and gained 215 yards.

On their last six series OSU ran 22 plays for 9 yards. On four of those series our net yardage was minus 6, minus 3, minus 5 and minus 10. And the only series where we moved the ball for more than 10 yards was the worst of the bunch because we were intercepted and did not get to punt.



On their first 9 series Illinois gained 99 yards (40 on their opening drive) and never moved the ball past their own 48.

On their last four series Illinois gained 134 yards and scored 10 points. They also made me appreciate the new clock management rules for the first time this season.


3. WHY IT HAPPENED

WAS IT THE DEFENSE?

No, it certainly wasn't because of the Defense. They were stellar all afternoon long. They gave up a field goal on a drive that started on the OSU side of the field and a TD on a drive where we were in something of a prevent.

WAS IT TRESSEL?

I have read comments that Tressel actually engineered a close game to give the team a challenge prior to the Michigan game. Not even going there.

I have also read that Tressel brought about a close game by his conservative play calling - playing Tressel-ball.

I almost bought into the second argument, but the evidence does not support it.

The play of the game for Illinois might well have been by Vontae Davis on OSU's first drive of the second half. Troy threw long to Ginn and laid it in his arms in the end zone - but Davis deflected it. That play makes it 24-0 and then maybe Illinois folds its tent and goes home according to script.

That was one of three times JT went long downfield in the second half. And even after Smith had been intercepted, with less than four minutes to go and a 17 point lead, Smith threw yet another pass - one that was tipped and could have led to disaster.

In the second half OSU ran 10 passing plays. The results were two sacks, four incompletions, one interception, two completions for negative yardage, and a 17 yard screen pass to Pittman. To paraphrase Woody, "When you pass the ball 10 things can happen and nine of them are bad."

Ginn had 5 catches in the game for 26 yards. But his longest was 15, meaning his other four catches netted 11 yards. Think about that one - Ted Ginn catching four passes for 11 yards.

The problem was not that we chose not to pass, but that Illinois would not let us pass.


And don't forget that our second string (this time you really did it Beanie) and third string running backs were not available in the second half. Pittman has been averaging 18 carries per game but ran the ball 32 times yesterday - with very mixed results. Not that Pitt shouldn't be able to shoulder the load, but rather that it was not our normal mix.

Granted, seven of our 10 second half passes were on third down, but I would not call that ultra-conservative. On the contrary, what we should be able to do - and until yesterday have been able to do - was move the ball on the ground in the fourth quarter. With ease. We shouldn't have to resort to passing. I would not call that being conservative. I would call it being unsuccessful.

JT didn't really button it up until the very last offensive series.

WAS IT THE OFFENSE?

Specifically, was it the offensive line? I won't argue this was their best game, and I would not want to be in the room when they grade the films. And when you watch that second half there was pressure on Smith like I have not seen all season. But I wont entirely accept that the our OL was the reason the second half turned out as it did. Here is why -


4. WHAT WE OFTEN FORGET

Myopia: 2 : a lack of foresight or discernment : a narrow view of something

Nearly all sports fans have the tendency to interpret everything that happens in terms of their own team as though the other team had no influence. They pitched a shut out because we can't hit - not because he pitched well. We moved the ball at will because we are an exceptional offense - not because their defense sucked.

Well, I would like to submit that the reason yesterday's second half went as it did is because for the first time this season, for one half of one game, our opponent's Defense was better than our Offense. Their players played harder and outplayed our players and their DC out-coached our OC. They were giving our entire line problems - not just #68. They put pressure on Smith and it showed in his play. It happens.

What is hard to accept today is not that it happened - but that it COULD happen.

We thought we were immune. We thought we were so much better than everyone else that nobody could touch us. We thought we were Miami in 2002 - our fans were even starting to sound like Miami fans.

Illinois strapped it on and brought it and we can all be happy to be 10-0.

And if you can take a step back you can see that this isn't bad thing. In fact, it is wonderful. It is what makes college football great.

I have to confess this at least once a year to cleanse my soul, but as I walked out of the stadium after the MSU loss in 1998 I had a bit of a smirk on my face. I tried to suppress it, but I couldn't. I knew what was at stake in that game and what was now gone, but I also knew that I had just seen college football at its very finest.

College football isn't just about the best players and best coaches or even the best game plans. It is also about who wants it more and who brings it on every play. To try to find blame for yesterday by looking at what OSU did instead of what Illinois did is a disservice and it ignores the very characteristic that makes College football what it is. It is what makes that NC mean so much when you finally get there. I wouldn't want it any other way.

5. Besides, it wasn't nearly as close as it looked

A 14 point lead with less than two minutes to play wasn't going anywhere. Anybody who lived through 2002 knows that. It was one half of one game of the 10 we have played.

Granted, it had us all peeking in our jeans to make sure we had on the lucky underwear. And I must admit that I didn't grab my nuts until Illinois scored the TD (they were still hanging in the den with my lucky hat). But it was a far cry from defending a pass into the end zone with no time on the clock and a 5 point lead. And wasn't it almost nice for a change to have that tension? To be pacing the floor talking to the TV and have your wife remind you that there were impressionable children in the house?

And we scored the winning point two minutes and 21 seconds into the second quarter.


6. MICHIGAN / BALL STATE

I was all set to really pound on the Wolverines - until we played a similar game. Or did we?

OSU played a young, talented and inspired Illinois team on the road. Michigan played a middle of the pack MAC school - at home. And not just at home, in their last home game of the year. Can you imagine OSU's seniors playing their last game in the Shoe and not showing up?

Still, I will wait to pound my Wolverine until the new Calendars come out. (What calendars you ask? Just a little foreshadowing.)


7. NEED FOR UN INTERVENTION

I am sensitive to the plight of children in Somalia. I appreciate the impending crisis in Iran. And the situation in South Korea is downright scary.

But for the second time this season I have had to watch the Bucks in standard format TV, and it is like the world just doesn't care.

So come one Kofi! If human dignity means anything it means that we are all entitled to HDTV!

Saddam has been sentenced so the problems in Iraq are essentially resolved. Let's get HDTV in front of the Security Council today!!!


8. THE NICOL TIP

It is always frustrating to see an interception off of a tip, but if you watch it again we were lucky on this play. Smith threw under pressure and the ball was going to be intercepted anyhow. But the player who would have caught it was in position to make a return.

That interception was Troy's as part of a game that did little to improve his Heisman campaign.


9. CUMBERLAND

Anytime you play a team that has two players OSU recruited heavily it is a mistake to dismiss them - especially when they have had a year to mature.

I expected what I saw from Williams, but Cumberland is also a keeper. Missing out on him hurts.


10. AN OBVIOUS ANALOGY

Imagine for a moment that OSU, Michigan and PSU all left the Big Ten (perhaps to join ND as independents).

Imagine also that Wisky, Iowa and Purdue were having strong seasons and the schedule was such that they did not meet until late in the year (say week 10 or later).

If all three played relatively weak non-conf schedules it is not unthinkable they might all be undefeated at 9-0. Would they deserve to be ranked in the top 10 in the country? Would Wisconsin deserve a shot at the BCS title for beating Iowa and Purdue? Would the absence of OSU, Michigan and PSU magically elevate the level of their programs? Or would the "experts" in the press see through this sham and rank them where they belonged?

Screw Louisville. (And besides, if they really loved football wouldn't they have renamed their school "Johnny U"?)


11. WOODY AND JOPA

Looks like the break could be career ending for JoPa - which would be a shame. But if that is the case I find it ironic that both he and Woody would have ended their careers by making contact with a player on the sidelines.

That should shut up the holier-than-thou PSU fans (although in their myopia they will probably argue that the two incidents are somehow different).


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I can also identify those who are able to harvest a veiled gem of wisdom and those who are just a bit slow on the uptake (that means stupid BB73).

I'm confused. Are you explaining to me that "slow on the uptake" means stupid; or are you identifying stupid me as a member of the slow crowd? :biggrin:

Great stuff as always. I have one other nomination for play of the game. On a play from just inside his own 20, Brasic had the ball knocked back into the air. Gholston was heading for it, and could have caught it and taken 2 steps to score. An alert Illini RB went back with Gholston and knocked it down to prevent what I believe would have been a 24-0 score. I'm not sure who the RB was because I was about 100 yards away, and my game tape screwed up, and I haven't gone through the game thread yet.
 
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I have also read that Tressel brought about a close game by his conservative play calling - playing Tressel-ball.

I almost bought into the second argument, but the evidence does not support it.
if running the ball straight up the middle 10 of 11 times on first down and 9 of 11 times on second down during the second half isn't classic Tresselball, circa '02-03, then i have never seen Tresselball.

look at the formations. you can NOT tell me that the formations and calls did not greatly contribute to Illinois' success on defense. not to mention the good old 1 WR power sets. everyone in America knew what was coming, and it was no surprise that the Illini were able to counter our offensive 'attack' in the second half. no play action. no option. no play action off the option. no 4 wide sets. no empty sets. no audibles. you get the point.

since i'm here, i'll chart the formations, and i think the contrast will be quite stark from the first half to the second:

Opening series:
1-10: shotgun ace 3 WR, strong right, slot left
2-11: shotgun normal 3 WR, slot left, 'shot-Ginn' left
1-10: I strong right, slot left
2-2: I strong right
1-10: shotgun ace, 4 WRs, stacked slot right
2-3: I strong right, slot left
3-3: shotgun ace 4 WR -> motion into shotgun empty 5 WR, trips left
1-10: ace strong left (H-back left -> motioned to strong right) 3 WR, slot left
2-2: I, twin TEs strong right, 1 WR right
1-10: shotgun ace 4 WR trips right
1-10: I, strong left, slot right
2-9: ace strong left, slot right
3-9: shotgun ace 4 WR -> motion into shotgun empty 5 WR, trips right
4-1: I, twin TEs balanced 1 WR left

second series:
1-10: ace twin TEs, strong left, H-back left -> motion into ace twins strong left H-back left, slot right
2-10: shotgun ace, strong right, slot right
3-4: shotgun ace 4 WR -> motion into shotgun empty 5 WR, trips left

third series:
1-10: ace strong right (H-back right) slot left
2-10: shotgun ace 3 WR, strong right, slot left
3-7: ace 3 WR, strong right, slot left
1-10: I normal, strong left
2-10: shotgun ace, 4 WR balanced
1-G: ace 3 WR, strong left (H-back left) slot right
2-G: shotgun ace 3 WR strong right, slot right
3-G: I 3TE strong left, H-back left

fourth series:
1-10: ace twin TEs strong right, H-back right
2-10: I strong left, slot right
1-10: I strong left, slot right
2-9: shotgun ace 4 WR, trips left (stacked slot left)
1-10: I normal, strong right (fumble. Beanie was about to hit them for big yardage on the draw play)

fifth series:
1-10: shotgun ace 4 WR balanced
2-1: I twin TEs balanced, 1 WR right
3-3: I strong left, slot right
1-10: I normal, strong right
2-9: shotgun empty 5 WR, trips right
3-1: I twin TEs, balanced, 1 WR right
1-10: ace twin TEs, strong left, H-back left, slot right -> motion to I twins balanced, slot right
1-10: shotgun empty 5 WR trips right
2-10: ace 3 WR, strong left, slot right (grounding call- Pitt missed his block big time. something else of note here: during the call, Tressel was really giving the ref the business, but Troy calmly pulled him away to discuss the next play. HUGE sign of Troy's maturity)
3-18: shotgun ace 4 WR, trips right (slot stacked right)

Troy passed for 99 yards and rushed for 45 in the first half.

first half totals:
16 plays from the shotgun.
15 plays from the I.
9 plays from the ace.

1st down sets in the first half:
shotgun, 5.
I, 6.
ace, 7.

now here's the second half:

first series:
1-10: shotgun ace 4 WR, trips right (stacked slot right)
2-7: ace 3 WR strong left, slot right
1-10: I normal, strong right
2-9: shotgun ace 4 WR trips right (shot-Ginn right)
3-14: shotgun ace 4 WR trips left (stacked slot left) (beautiful screen to pick up the first)
1-10: ace 3 WR strong right, slot left (WR to the right was very tight to the formation)
2-9: I, twin TEs strong right (both TEs right), 1 WR left (GOAL LINE SET ON 2ND AND LONG.)
3-13: shotgun ace 3 WR, strong right, slot left (WR to the right very tight to the formation) -> motioned Gonzo left to get Ginn in the slot (great D to knock down a TD pass)

second series:
1-10: ace 3 WR, strong right, slot right
2-12: I normal, strong left, slot right
3-8: shotgun ace 4 WR, trips right (stacked slot right)
3 plays, -6 yards

third series
1-10: I normal, strong left (Illini running a 5-2)
2-11: ace 3 WR, strong right, slot right (Illini had 6 guys on the LOS)
3-8: shotgun ace 2 WR, strong tight, slot right (Illini had 7 at the LOS, brought 5, Troy sacked, fumbled)
3 plays, -5 yards

fourth series:
1-10: shotgun ace 3 WR, strong right, slot left (only pass on 1st down of second half- a screen that didn't develop well, and went for minus 3)
2-13: ace twin TEs, strong right (both TEs right), balanced WRs
3-13: shotgun ace 4 WR, trips right (stacked slot right)
3 plays, -3 yards

fifth series:
1-10: I, twin TEs, strong left (2 TEs left) 1 WR left (GOAL LINE SET ON FIRST AND TEN.) actually picked up 5 yards, but Barton was flagged for U.R.)
2-18: I, twin TEs, strong right (2 TEs right) 1 WR left (same power set, deep ball to Ginn, P.I.)
1-10: I twin TEs, balanced, 1 WR left (ANOTHER POWER SET ON 1st and 10.)
2-3: I, twin TEs balanced, 1 WR left (same formation, go figure)
3-1: I, twin TEs balanced, 1 WR left (notice anything familiar? the result? STUFFED. Pitt fumbled. recovered by Rehring to save the day.)
1-10: I, Twin TEs, strong right (TE right, H-back right) 1 WR left (deja vu?)
2-9: I, twin TEs, strong right (TE right, H-back right) 1 WR left (......)
3-7: I, twin TEs, strong left (TEs left, H-back left) 1 WR right (whoa! they flipped the formation! that outta surprise 'em! what happened? play-action that wouldn't fool my grandmother, tipped and intercepted.)

sixth series: started on the Illini 40. 5 yards would have netted 3 points.
1-10: I, twin TEs, balanced, 1 WR right (no, your record is not broken.)
2-7: ace twin TEs, normal, strong left (TE left, H-back left) 2 WRs balanced (even the 'extra' WR didn't get Illinois to back the 5th guy off the line)
3-7: shotgun empty, 5 WRs, trips left (FINALLY! though Illinois still had 6 guys at the LOS. pass batted down. 3 points squandered. 17 yard net punt.)

aside: i believe the Illini used an illegal tee for their onside kick.

seventh series:
1-10: I, twin TEs, balanced, 1 WR left
2-14: I, twin TEs, balanced, 1 WR left (Illini had TEN in the box. false start.)
2-19: I, twin TEs, balanced, 1 WR left (Illini had 7 at the LOS.)
3-20: hell, i don't know. my DVR cut off... i think i can guess what the formation was...

second half totals:
9 plays from the shotgun.
17 plays from the I-- 12 of which were 1 WR sets.
6 plays from the ace.

second half 1st down sets:
shotgun, 2.
I, 7.
ace, 2.

195 total yards in the first half. 29 total yards in the second half. yes, i know the Illini played hard, but i think that just about anyone can do the math when it comes to the absolute lack of production in the second half... and it really doesn't matter if i think Tressel kept it close on purpose, or whether anyone else wants to tell me i'm a lunatic for thinking so. the result is the same.

edit: i WILL say that i think all the power sets would have been better served with our power back, but ufortunately putting the ball on the carpet negated Beanie from the equation. and we missed Alex Boone... but that doesn't change the fact that Tressel shut it down. when you only have 17 points and you shut it down, you get 'close' games...
 
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lvbuckeye;653839; said:
fifth series:
1-10: I, twin TEs, strong left (2 TEs left) 1 WR left (GOAL LINE SET ON FIRST AND TEN.) actually picked up 5 yards, but Barton was flagged for U.R.)
2-18: I, twin TEs, strong right (2 TEs right) 1 WR left (same power set, deep ball to Ginn, P.I.)
1-10: I twin TEs, balanced, 1 WR left (ANOTHER POWER SET ON 1st and 10.)
2-3: I, twin TEs balanced, 1 WR left (same formation, go figure)
3-1: I, twin TEs balanced, 1 WR left (notice anything familiar? the result? STUFFED. Pitt fumbled. recovered by Rehring to save the day.)
1-10: I, Twin TEs, strong right (TE right, H-back right) 1 WR left (deja vu?)
2-9: I, twin TEs, strong right (TE right, H-back right) 1 WR left (......)
3-7: I, twin TEs, strong left (TEs left, H-back left) 1 WR right (whoa! they flipped the formation! that outta surprise 'em! what happened? play-action that wouldn't fool my grandmother, tipped and intercepted.)

sixth series: started on the Illini 40. 5 yards would have netted 3 points.
1-10: I, twin TEs, balanced, 1 WR right (no, your record is not broken.)
2-7: ace twin TEs, normal, strong left (TE left, H-back left) 2 WRs balanced (even the 'extra' WR didn't get Illinois to back the 5th guy off the line)
3-7: shotgun empty, 5 WRs, trips left (FINALLY! though Illinois still had 6 guys at the LOS. pass batted down. 3 points squandered. 17 yard net punt.)

seventh series:
1-10: I, twin TEs, balanced, 1 WR left
2-14: I, twin TEs, balanced, 1 WR left (Illini had TEN in the box. false start.)
2-19: I, twin TEs, balanced, 1 WR left (Illini had 7 at the LOS.)

i think thats about as compelling of evidence as you can ask for. im of the opinion it was because we weren't executing. others have brought up a prepairing for scum arguement as well as illi just flat out being better. regardless of the why's. tressel closed the playbook because our guys weren't getting the job done as is demanded by someone playing for tOSU and they were punished for it.

personally, i wouldn't be at all surprised to see the first formation we show against nw to be:
I, twin TE's, 1WR
 
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I'm with IvBuckeye, it was coaching/play calling that kept it so close in the second half.

Yesterday I wrote that I would guess that the players don't enjoy playing a game like that... and IVBuckeye suggests that it was done as a "punishment". Hmmm, that may be.

Oh8ch's notion that "three things can happen when you pass..." a la Woody, is not a good defense of what transpired. I say bad things happen when you have predictable play calling.

Now, we still won, and so I agree with the sentiment that there are no bad wins... but it was tough to watch.

can we all agree, the NW game is going to be different??

Go Buckeyes!
 
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By buddy who was at the game and has a good eye for X's and O's wrote me this in an e-mail. It is good stuff and I believe it 100%...

Here's what I can deduce from Saturday's game against the Illini. Tressel must have been up to something. He seemingly challenged the offense in the second half of Saturday's game. After going up 17-0 in the end of the first half moving the ball at will with a balanced running and passing game, the team came out in the second half and ran 3 primary plays the entire half. That's right, three plays in the same order for every single series. Here they are:

1st down - run to the right (try to get outside)
2nd down - run to the left (off tackle)
3rd down - short pass over the middle if they need 7 or more yards. Otherwise, run left again.
repeat until you punt

I think they did this on 7 consecutive series in the second half. The result was 30 plays (8 for a loss) and 29 total yards. No scoring and 1 INT. Brutal to watch. However, I can only deduce that Tressel wanted to teach the kids they aren't as good as they think. Michigan is a way better defense than Illinois and the Bucks better learn to move the ball when the other team knows what's coming. The Illinois experience showed they aren't supermen, able to just blow opponents over. Play selection and execution is why you win. Take away play selection and things become very difficult.

The game wasn't ever really in doubt. The Illini offense is terrible. They didn't cross the 50 yard line until the 9 minute mark of the 4th Q and then only because of a shanked punt after the three standard offensive plays. The Illini did move the ball 30 yards and kicked a field goal. Late in the game the Illini moved the ball 80 yards by completing a 20+ yard pass, another pass interference call and some lucky scrambles, a few good runs and did score a touchdown with 1:40 left. That made the score look closer than the game indicated.

It was amazing to see Tressel shut down the offense like that in the second half. We saw Ginn 1-on-1 with no safety over the top on second and 12's and they wouldn't go to him on the wide open slants...he would have been gone for 50-70 yarders. Nope, Tressel ran the inside hand-off over and over. The Illini were actually lining up 8, 9 and sometimes 10 guys in the box on 1st and 2nd downs in the 4th Q. Never seen anything like it.

Some day I'll come face to face with Tressel at an Ohio State function. I'm not going to ask about the 2002 Fiesta Bowl, the Michigan wins, the Texas road win, the loss at Penn State (white out game) or even his experiences with Maurice Clarett. No, I'll ask him about the play selection in the second half of the Illinois game. Something was up.

Tress gets a free pass for that game because of all he's done for the team and because they won. However, if they lost the game on some flukey late game heroics by the Illini the Buckeye Nation wouldn't be to forgiving. If this brings a win over Michigan this year, then maybe Tressel is a genius motivator of kids. It just wasn't very fun to watch on Saturday.

We joked to those in attendance around us that Tressel wasn't on the sidelines in the second half.....John Cooper made a special return visit to call the plays. It was that kind of predictable.

Regards. Pete
 
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Oh8ch;653636; said:
I have to confess this at least once a year to cleanse my soul, but as I walked out of the stadium after the MSU loss in 1998 I had a bit of a smirk on my face. I tried to suppress it, but I couldn't. I knew what was at stake in that game and what was now gone, but I also knew that I had just seen college football at its very finest.

:yow2:

DAMN!!! I've always loved your observations and I'm sure I always will... But, this is like admitting that you want to sleep with your cousin.

Awful. Just plain awful.:wink2:
 
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