New polls 11/27

[JXC]

<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3><TBODY><TR class=stathead><TD colSpan=5>Week 14 USA Today Coaches Poll</TD></TR><TR class=colhead align=middle><TD align=left>RANK</TD><TD align=left>TEAM</TD><TD>RECORD</TD><TD>PTS</TD><TD>PVS</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>1.</TD><TD align=left>USC (53) </TD><TD>11-0</TD><TD>1540</TD><TD>1</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>2.</TD><TD align=left>Texas (9) </TD><TD>11-0</TD><TD>1497</TD><TD>2</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>3.</TD><TD align=left>LSU</TD><TD>10-1</TD><TD>1397</TD><TD>3</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>4.</TD><TD align=left>Penn State</TD><TD>10-1</TD><TD>1369</TD><TD>4</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>5.</TD><TD align=left>Virginia Tech</TD><TD>10-1</TD><TD>1290</TD><TD>5</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>6.</TD><TD align=left>Ohio State</TD><TD>9-2</TD><TD>1162</TD><TD>7</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>7.</TD><TD align=left>Notre Dame</TD><TD>9-2</TD><TD>1153</TD><TD>6</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>8.</TD><TD align=left>Oregon</TD><TD>10-1</TD><TD>1127</TD><TD>8</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>9.</TD><TD align=left>Auburn</TD><TD>9-2</TD><TD>1049</TD><TD>9</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>10.</TD><TD align=left>Miami</TD><TD>9-2</TD><TD>990</TD><TD>10</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>11.</TD><TD align=left>UCLA</TD><TD>9-1</TD><TD>946</TD><TD>11</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>12.</TD><TD align=left>West Virginia</TD><TD>9-1</TD><TD>883</TD><TD>12</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>13.</TD><TD align=left>Georgia</TD><TD>9-2</TD><TD>827</TD><TD>13</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>14.</TD><TD align=left>Alabama</TD><TD>9-2</TD><TD>731</TD><TD>14</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>15.</TD><TD align=left>TCU</TD><TD>10-1</TD><TD>705</TD><TD>15</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>16.</TD><TD align=left>Texas Tech</TD><TD>9-2</TD><TD>605</TD><TD>17</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>17.</TD><TD align=left>Louisville</TD><TD>8-2</TD><TD>532</TD><TD>18</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>18.</TD><TD align=left>Florida</TD><TD>8-3</TD><TD>506</TD><TD>19</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>19.</TD><TD align=left>Boston College</TD><TD>8-3</TD><TD>436</TD><TD>20</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>20.</TD><TD align=left>Wisconsin</TD><TD>9-3</TD><TD>367</TD><TD>22</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>21.</TD><TD align=left>Michigan</TD><TD>7-4</TD><TD>250</TD><TD>23</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>22.</TD><TD align=left>Fresno State</TD><TD>8-3</TD><TD>186</TD><TD>16</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>23.</TD><TD align=left>Clemson</TD><TD>7-4</TD><TD>158</TD><TD>NR</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>24.</TD><TD align=left>Georgia Tech</TD><TD>7-4</TD><TD>80</TD><TD>24</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>25.</TD><TD align=left>Iowa</TD><TD>7-4</TD><TD>76</TD><TD>NR</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD colSpan=5>OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES
Oklahoma 61, Florida State 40, Boise State 39, South Carolina 38, Central Florida 30, Northwestern 22, California 15, Iowa State 11, Nevada 9, Colorado 7, Minnesota 6, Nebraska 5, UTEP 2, Virginia 1, Toledo 1, Rutgers 1. DROPPED FROM RANKINGS
Florida State 21, Iowa State 25.



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<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3><TBODY><TR class=stathead><TD colSpan=5>Week 14 AP Top 25</TD></TR><TR class=colhead align=middle><TD align=left>RANK</TD><TD align=left>TEAM</TD><TD>RECORD</TD><TD>PTS</TD><TD>PVS</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>1.</TD><TD align=left>USC (55) </TD><TD>11-0</TD><TD>1615</TD><TD>1</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>2.</TD><TD align=left>Texas (10) </TD><TD>11-0</TD><TD>1570</TD><TD>2</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>3.</TD><TD align=left>LSU</TD><TD>10-1</TD><TD>1447</TD><TD>3</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>4.</TD><TD align=left>Penn State</TD><TD>10-1</TD><TD>1430</TD><TD>4</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>5.</TD><TD align=left>Virginia Tech</TD><TD>10-1</TD><TD>1332</TD><TD>5</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>6.</TD><TD align=left>Ohio State</TD><TD>9-2</TD><TD>1276</TD><TD>7</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>7.</TD><TD align=left>Notre Dame</TD><TD>9-2</TD><TD>1252</TD><TD>6</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>8.</TD><TD align=left>Oregon</TD><TD>10-1</TD><TD>1144</TD><TD>8</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>9.</TD><TD align=left>Auburn</TD><TD>9-2</TD><TD>1126</TD><TD>9</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>10.</TD><TD align=left>Miami</TD><TD>9-2</TD><TD>989</TD><TD>10</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>11.</TD><TD align=left>UCLA</TD><TD>9-1</TD><TD>942</TD><TD>11</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>12.</TD><TD align=left>West Virginia</TD><TD>9-1</TD><TD>932</TD><TD>12</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>13.</TD><TD align=left>Georgia</TD><TD>9-2</TD><TD>899</TD><TD>13</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>14.</TD><TD align=left>Alabama</TD><TD>9-2</TD><TD>758</TD><TD>14</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>15.</TD><TD align=left>TCU</TD><TD>10-1</TD><TD>740</TD><TD>15</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>16.</TD><TD align=left>Louisville</TD><TD>8-2</TD><TD>600</TD><TD>17</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>17.</TD><TD align=left>Florida</TD><TD>8-3</TD><TD>542</TD><TD>19</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>18.</TD><TD align=left>Texas Tech</TD><TD>9-2</TD><TD>512</TD><TD>18</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>19.</TD><TD align=left>Boston College</TD><TD>8-3</TD><TD>396</TD><TD>21</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>20.</TD><TD align=left>Michigan</TD><TD>7-4</TD><TD>340</TD><TD>22</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>21.</TD><TD align=left>Wisconsin</TD><TD>9-3</TD><TD>317</TD><TD>24</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>22.</TD><TD align=left>Clemson</TD><TD>7-4</TD><TD>225</TD><TD>25</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>23.</TD><TD align=left>Fresno State</TD><TD>8-3</TD><TD>203</TD><TD>16</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>24.</TD><TD align=left>Georgia Tech</TD><TD>7-4</TD><TD>187</TD><TD>20</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>25.</TD><TD align=left>Iowa</TD><TD>7-4</TD><TD>91</TD><TD>NR</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD colSpan=5>OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES
Oklahoma 73, South Carolina 64, Florida State 24, Central Florida 20, Boise State 15, Nevada 13, California 10, Nebraska 8, Northwestern 8, Colorado 7, Minnesota 6, Toledo 6, Iowa State 4, UTEP 2.

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<TABLE class=tablehead cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3><TBODY><TR class=stathead><TD colSpan=5>Week 14 Harris Poll</TD></TR><TR class=colhead align=middle><TD align=left>RANK</TD><TD align=left>TEAM</TD><TD>RECORD</TD><TD>PTS</TD><TD>PVS</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>1.</TD><TD align=left>USC (98) </TD><TD>11-0</TD><TD>2810</TD><TD>1</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>2.</TD><TD align=left>Texas (15) </TD><TD>11-0</TD><TD>2727</TD><TD>2</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>3.</TD><TD align=left>Penn State</TD><TD>10-1</TD><TD>2525</TD><TD>4</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>4.</TD><TD align=left>LSU</TD><TD>10-1</TD><TD>2500</TD><TD>3</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>5.</TD><TD align=left>Virginia Tech</TD><TD>10-1</TD><TD>2313</TD><TD>6</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>6.</TD><TD align=left>Ohio State</TD><TD>9-2</TD><TD>2180</TD><TD>7</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>7.</TD><TD align=left>Notre Dame</TD><TD>9-2</TD><TD>2173</TD><TD>5</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>8.</TD><TD align=left>Oregon</TD><TD>10-1</TD><TD>2031</TD><TD>8</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>9.</TD><TD align=left>Auburn</TD><TD>9-2</TD><TD>1946</TD><TD>9</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>10.</TD><TD align=left>Miami</TD><TD>9-2</TD><TD>1791</TD><TD>10</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>11.</TD><TD align=left>UCLA</TD><TD>9-1</TD><TD>1637</TD><TD>11</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>12.</TD><TD align=left>Georgia</TD><TD>9-2</TD><TD>1601</TD><TD>12</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>13.</TD><TD align=left>West Virginia</TD><TD>9-1</TD><TD>1538</TD><TD>13</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>14.</TD><TD align=left>Alabama</TD><TD>9-2</TD><TD>1339</TD><TD>14</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>15.</TD><TD align=left>TCU</TD><TD>10-1</TD><TD>1282</TD><TD>15</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>16.</TD><TD align=left>Texas Tech</TD><TD>9-2</TD><TD>1074</TD><TD>17</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>17.</TD><TD align=left>Louisville</TD><TD>8-2</TD><TD>984</TD><TD>18</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>18.</TD><TD align=left>Florida</TD><TD>8-3</TD><TD>931</TD><TD>19</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>19.</TD><TD align=left>Boston College</TD><TD>8-3</TD><TD>768</TD><TD>20</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>20.</TD><TD align=left>Wisconsin</TD><TD>9-3</TD><TD>643</TD><TD>23</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>21.</TD><TD align=left>Michigan</TD><TD>7-4</TD><TD>521</TD><TD>24</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>22.</TD><TD align=left>Fresno State</TD><TD>8-3</TD><TD>292</TD><TD>16</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>23.</TD><TD align=left>Clemson</TD><TD>7-4</TD><TD>268</TD><TD>NR</TD></TR><TR class=evenrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>24.</TD><TD align=left>Georgia Tech</TD><TD>7-4</TD><TD>255</TD><TD>22</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow align=middle><TD style="WIDTH: 15px" align=left>25.</TD><TD align=left>Iowa</TD><TD>7-4</TD><TD>122</TD><TD>NR</TD></TR><TR class=oddrow><TD colSpan=5>OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES
Oklahoma 103, Florida State 67, California 59, South Carolina 45, Northwestern 38, Colorado 35, Nebraska 28, Nevada 23, CENTRAL FLORIDA 23, Boise State 22, Minnesota 10, Iowa State 9, UTEP 7, South Florida 2, Rutgers 2, Toledo 1.
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BCS STANDINGS

Comp Coach's Harris BSC
Team W L Ave Rank Pts BCS Rank Pts BCS Points
1 Southern Cal 11 0 0.96 1 1540 0.994 1 2810 0.995 0.9827
2 Texas 11 0 1.00 2 1497 0.966 2 2727 0.965 0.9770
3 Penn State 10 1 0.92 4 1369 0.883 3 2525 0.894 0.8990
4 LSU 10 1 0.74 3 1397 0.901 4 2500 0.885 0.8421
5 Virginia Tech 10 1 0.87 5 1290 0.832 5 2313 0.819 0.8403
6 Ohio State 9 2 0.85 6 1162 0.750 6 2180 0.772 0.7905
7 Oregon 10 1 0.79 8 1127 0.727 8 2031 0.719 0.7453
8 Notre Dame 9 2 0.53 7 1153 0.744 7 2173 0.769 0.6810
9 Miami FL 9 2 0.75 10 990 0.639 10 1791 0.634 0.6742
10 Auburn 9 2 0.54 9 1049 0.677 9 1946 0.689 0.6352
11 West Virginia 9 1 0.66 12 883 0.570 13 1538 0.544 0.5914
12 UCLA 9 1 0.51 11 946 0.610 11 1637 0.579 0.5666
13 Georgia 9 2 0.35 13 827 0.534 12 1601 0.567 0.4834
14 TCU 10 1 0.48 15 705 0.455 15 1282 0.454 0.4629
15 Alabama 9 2 0.34 14 731 0.472 14 1339 0.474 0.4285
16 Texas Tech 9 2 0.44 16 605 0.390 16 1074 0.380 0.4035
17 Wisconsin 9 3 0.47 20 367 0.237 20 643 0.228 0.3115
18 Boston College 8 3 0.31 19 436 0.281 19 768 0.272 0.2877
19 Michigan 7 4 0.43 21 250 0.161 21 521 0.184 0.2586
20 Louisville 8 2 0.07 17 532 0.343 17 984 0.348 0.2538
21 Florida 8 3 0.09 18 506 0.326 18 931 0.330 0.2487
22 Northwestern 7 4 0.26 31 22 0.014 30 38 0.013 0.0959
23 Oklahoma 7 4 0.17 26 61 0.039 26 103 0.036 0.0819
24 Georgia Tech 7 4 0.09 24 80 0.052 24 255 0.090 0.0773
25 Minnesota 7 4 0.20 36 6 0.004 35 10 0.004 0.0691
26 Iowa 7 4 0.11 25 76 0.049 25 122 0.043 0.0674
27 Clemson 7 4 -0.06 23 158 0.102 23 268 0.095 0.0456
28 Colorado 7 4 0.11 35 7 0.005 31 35 0.012 0.0423
29 South Carolina 7 4 -0.18 29 38 0.025 29 45 0.016 -0.0465
30 Nebraska 7 4 -0.20 37 5 0.003 32 28 0.010 -0.0623
31 Iowa St 7 4 -0.21 33 11 0.007 36 9 0.003 -0.0666
32 Florida St 7 4 -0.31 27 40 0.026 27 67 0.024 -0.0868
33 Virginia 6 5 -0.28 39 1 0.001 41 0 0.000 -0.0931
34 Fresno St 8 3 -0.54 22 186 0.120 22 292 0.103 -0.1055
35 Arizona St 6 5 -0.32 42 0 0.000 41 0 0.000 -0.1067



FINALLY!!! THEY GET IT!!!!!! Ohio State jumps back over Notre Dame.


I can't believe LSU is still ranked over Penn State (looks like the Harris Poll got this one right, actually think the Harris poll looks like the most accurate one now). Also surprised Fresno is still ranked. Nice to see Iowa get some love.

 

[buckeyeboy]

tOSU finally and rightfully ahead of overhyped ND. . Lou Holtz is probably going ballistic.

 

[gold_pants]

Amen brother. Strength of schedule and playing in a tough conference finally mean something.

 

[tedginn05]

WOW WERE RANKED AHEAD OF NOTRE DAME

 

[BB73]

Some reality has set in for the coaches. Nice to see tOSU before ND.

One coach is voting USC #3, or they would have 1541 points. I wonder who that is?

 

[buckeyeboy]

I can't believe LSU is still ranked over Penn State.

I agree with you here. I'd be going nuts if I were a PSU fan. LSU barely escaped against a 4-7 team at home. Combined with their other close wins (e.g., OT win against Auburn in which Auburn's kicker missed 5 field goals), I think LSU should be ranked behind Va Tech as well. This weekend, Les Miles' luck runs out and Georgia beats them in the SEC championship.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

I agree with you here. I'd be going nuts if I were a PSU fan. LSU barely escaped against a 4-7 team at home. Combined with their other close wins (e.g., OT win against Auburn in which Auburn's kicker missed 5 field goals), I think LSU should be ranked behind Va Tech as well. This weekend, Les Miles' luck runs out and Georgia beats them in the SEC championship.

I wouldn't be going nuts. It doesn't matter at this point. Either USC or Texas lose and they're in the Rose, or they go to the Fiesta or Orange Bowl. being 3rd or 4th in the AP/Coaches is meaningless.

 

[buckeyeboy]

I wouldn't be going nuts. It doesn't matter at this point. Either USC or Texas lose and they're in the Rose, or they go to the Fiesta or Orange Bowl. being 3rd or 4th in the AP/Coaches is meaningless.

Good point. I agree with that the BCS is all that matters in the long run. I would, however, not like it at all that LSU is ranked ahead of me in any poll if I were a PSU fan, after that disgusting showing by LSU on Friday, though.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

how sweet would it be if USC or Texas lose and LSU sneaks up there into the #2 spot? Then I'd go nuts if I were a PSU fan

 

[JXC]

Some reality has set in for the coaches. Nice to see tOSU before ND.

One coach is voting USC #3, or they would have 1541 points. I wonder who that is?

I saw that. Who in the country could you vote over USC besides Texas? That's a joke. Whatever coach voted USC 3rd should have his ability to vote taken away.

 

[Steve19]

Which one of the coaches polls is going to be made public?

 

[casey_buckeye]

We jumped ND into #6 in the AP Poll also.

 

[DaBuckMD]

The argument was slipping with ND's performance against Stanford and the 'value' of the USC loss potentially losing some value with Fresno St's loss to Nevada.

 

[buck e]

I saw that. Who in the country could you vote over USC besides Texas? That's a joke. Whatever coach voted USC 3rd should have his ability to vote taken away.

If I had a guess, and I don't know that he even has a vote, perhaps Tubberville voting LSU over USC?

 

[buckeyeboy]

I saw that. Who in the country could you vote over USC besides Texas? That's a joke. Whatever coach voted USC 3rd should have his ability to vote taken away.

I agree, and that's the problem with letting coaches vote--you'll always have a few people who vote irrationally in order to further their agendas, whatever they may be. Kind of like A.J. not getting unanimous first team all Big 10 LB. I'd like to know what coach in his right mind wouldn't vote for A.J., considering he's a lock for the Butkus, the best LB in the entire nation. It's agenda-driven voting, and it sucks.