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RugbyBuck

Our church has no bells.
Police in Radnor, Pa., interrogated a suspect by placing a metal colander on his head and connecting it with wires to a photocopy machine. The message "He's lying" was placed in the copier, and police pressed the copy button each time they thought the suspect wasn't telling the truth. Believing the "lie detector" was working, the suspect confessed.
 

exhawg

Mirror Guy
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RugbyBuck said:
Police in Radnor, Pa., interrogated a suspect by placing a metal colander on his head and connecting it with wires to a photocopy machine. The message "He's lying" was placed in the copier, and police pressed the copy button each time they thought the suspect wasn't telling the truth. Believing the "lie detector" was working, the suspect confessed.
What did donny get arrested for?
 
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BuckeyeNation27

Goal Goal USA!
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RugbyBuck said:
Police in Radnor, Pa., interrogated a suspect by placing a metal colander on his head and connecting it with wires to a photocopy machine. The message "He's lying" was placed in the copier, and police pressed the copy button each time they thought the suspect wasn't telling the truth. Believing the "lie detector" was working, the suspect confessed.
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gregorylee

I'd rather be napping!!
From "snopes"

Legend: Police fool a criminal into confessing through a ruse involving a photocopier and a colander.
Examples:


[Collected on the Internet, 1997]
COPYING A PLEA

A Xerox machine cannot be substituted for a lie detector, according to a recent ruling by a Pennsylvania judge.

Detectives of the Bucks County Police Deaprtment were hellbent on getting a confession out of the suspect. But instead of resorting to the old rubber hose approach they put technology to use. They clearly [sic] converted the office Xerox machine into a lie detector.

First, the supersleuths put a card saying "He's lying" into the machine. Then they put a metal colander (normally used to drain spaghetti) over the suspect's head. Next, they wired the colander to the Xerox machine.

When the suspect gave an answer the detectives didn't believe, the officers pushed the copy button and the machine spewed out a paper which read, "He's lying." Faced with such advanced-level police tactics, the fellow finally confessed.

When the judge heard all of the details, he ordered that the criminal charges be dropped and the suspect released. Lucky for him there's no law against gullibility.



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[Collected on the Internet, 1994]

A judge admonished the police in Radnor, Pa., for pretending a Xerox copy machine was a lie detector. Officials had placed a metal colander on the head of a suspect and attached the colander to the copier with metal wires. In the copy machine was a typewritten message: "He's lying."

Each time investigators received answers they didn't like, they pushed the copy button and out popped the message, "He's lying." Apparently convinced the machine was accurate, the suspect confessed.




Origins: The
colander lie detector story has been part of oral lore since at least the late 1960s. So far, the oldest print sighting comes from an article in the 22 June 1977 edition of the Philadelphia Inquirer, which attributed the tale to "a small police department in the county."

A version placing the action in Radnor, Pennsylvania, appeared in News of the Weird in 1989. (No source was given, so it's now impossible to say where News of the Weird picked up the tale from.)

The Radnor version is by far the one most familiar to the online community. It routinely circulates in cyberspace, going through periods of dormancy followed by moments of revival when it seemingly makes its way into every inbox imaginable.

In an attempt to verify or prove the story false, folklorist Jan Brunvand contacted the Radnor Police Department. Their 10 October 1990 response stated:


The fake lie detector incident referred to in your letter did not happen in Radnor.
We do not know how the story originated; however, over the years, we have received numerous letters inquiring about this incident.

Articles have been sent to us which appeared in the Wall Street Journal, Playboy, and other publications.

Our guess is is that some reporter had the story and used Radnor as the place of occurrence.

Sincerely,
Maurice L. Hennessy
Chief of Police, Radnor Township

Throughout the years, this story has popped in various "dumb criminals" or "true tales of the legal profession" books, as well as surfacing every now and then in the media. Its popularity continues undimmed, with Ann Landers airing it in her 4 January 1998 column.

Could the story have happened? It's a remote possibility, and certainly police are tricky enough to want to try something like this, but one has to wonder about the metal colander detail. Though it's reasonable to expect to find cups, plates, and cutlery in a workplace kitchenette, food preparation items are far less common. Colanders are used to drain cooked pasta or wash salad ingredients; they're not exactly standard implements in even home kitchens. Neither pasta draining nor lettuce rinsing are activities usual to a workplace setting, with the vast majority of lunch-bearers preferring to bring already-prepared meals to work, items that are ready-to-eat or require only a quick heating in the office microwave.

In other words, no matter how resourceful the officers were, they'd have had a time laying their hands on a colander to use in this deception.

TV police shows and movies routinely feature suspects being subjected to lie detector examinations. For the colander lie detector story to ring true, we have to suppose the hapless bad guy not only was unaware that results are not given as the test proceeds (hence no machine spitting out "He's lying" notes), but also that all those guys on the big screen didn't have metal colanders (or anything else) placed on their heads. It would take a truly dim bulb indeed not to realize something was terribly wrong with how the police were going about this interrogation. Or that the printing device looked remarkably like a photocopier.

It's still possible some police department somewhere did indeed act out this legend at one time or another. Judging from the numerous verifiable "dumb criminal" stories afoot, no shortage exists of baddies who would willingly fall for it. But did it happen in as many places as now claimed? Very likely not -- in common with a number of urban legends, numerous enthusiastic raconteurs have "localized" the tale by inserting the name of a nearby town. Police departments everywhere have claimed this story as their own, perhaps as a way of reassuring themselves that the good guys do indeed win and their officers in particular are always two steps ahead of the criminals.

Barbara "wry detector" Mikkelson

Sightings: This legend formed part of the plot of an episode of television's Homicide.

Last updated: 21 January 2000



http://www.snopes.com/legal/colander.htm

I could see this happening though
 
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AKAK

Well, that's like hypnotizing chickens.
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Last dude I saw with a Colander on his head was saying something like:

Gozer the Traveller will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the rectification of the Vuldronaii the Traveller came as a very large and moving Torb. Then of course in the third reconciliation of the last of the Meketrex supplicants they chose a new form for him, that of a Sloar. Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day I can tell you.
 
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Ghost Recon

Did it go Poof?
Hey thats a pretty funny story. This past Tuesday I was up in Akron for my polygraph examination. For those of you who have never been through one, its an awful experience. Not so much the test (which I passed) but the confessions that you have to give. Just think of all the bad things you have done and spew it all out in an hour to someone who doesn't know you or gives a shit about you.
 
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Thump

Hating the environment since 1994
  • Ghost Recon said:
    Hey thats a pretty funny story. This past Tuesday I was up in Akron for my polygraph examination. For those of you who have never been through one, its an awful experience. Not so much the test (which I passed) but the confessions that you have to give. Just think of all the bad things you have done and spew it all out in an hour to someone who doesn't know you or gives a shit about you.
    You going into the FBI or CIA?
     
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    Buck Nasty

    You'll have nothing and like it
    AKAKBUCK said:
    Last dude I saw with a Colander on his head was saying something like:

    Gozer the Traveller will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the rectification of the Vuldronaii the Traveller came as a very large and moving Torb. Then of course in the third reconciliation of the last of the Meketrex supplicants they chose a new form for him, that of a Sloar. Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Sloar that day I can tell you.
    Are You the Keymaster?
     
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    RugbyBuck

    Our church has no bells.
    No, numbnuts, you're the Keymaster. Dumbass crackers, mumble mumble, frackin' frack.

    Oh, my bad, that's right, you're in charge of collections and the liquor cabinet within the Ministry of Indiscriminate Violence.

    Carry on. :biggrin:
     
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