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NCAA Revenue and Player Likenesses

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It's an awful take. "Your team" isn't worth 1.5 billion. The Ohio State Football brand is worth 1.5 billion due to over 100 years of successful football and high fan interest.

Student athletes get free college, housing and food stipends, world class training and coaching, clothing, travel, TV exposure. This is worth probably around 300k a year. Yea dude I think you get enough benefits
 
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The tweet is obviously talking about banning the purchase of hamburgers for student athletes due to the appearance or potential for receiving said patty based on their status as a student athlete (meanwhile their likeness is used for profit constantly in a non-profit business).

The exploitation is substantial. The system is a farce, but it's largely a beneficial one.
 
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The tweet is obviously talking about banning the purchase of hamburgers for student athletes due to the appearance or potential for receiving said patty based on their status as a student athlete (meanwhile their likeness is used for profit constantly in a non-profit business).

The exploitation is substantial. The system is a farce, but it's largely a beneficial one.
How is there exploitation? These kids are getting world class training and education for free!! Along with many other benefits.

You will say well the NCAA is making so much money. That's how the world works. These kids are getting better benefits for playing football then most employees at major companies. NCAA also has to balance many other non revenue sports. And if you really want to get into and paid these kids should we have paid Ezekiel Elliott the same as Joe Burrow? Would that have been fair to you? Is that also exploitation?
 
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How is there exploitation? These kids are getting world class training and education for free!! Along with many other benefits.
It's pretty obvious how it's exploitation. You simply like the exploitation so you think it's okay.

OSU sells thousands of JT BarrettI'mHonoringTheCalendarYear :roll1: jerseys without paying him a dime. The school/league/NCAA sell billions in advertising with his and his teammates' likenesses. They made millions and millions with digital replications of their likenesses. They hold a basketball tournament that generates a billion all by itself. It's blatant exploitation and the pithy return on their investment is a very outdated revenue model that has not adjusted with the explosion in revenue.

The problem is that few programs are like Ohio State, and so if you address the exploitation and pay athletes (even a sliver of what they are worth), you jeopardize the entire system, particularly the more legitimate student athletes in non revenue sports. It's a farce but a beneficial one.
You will say well the NCAA is making so much money. That's how the world works.
No, it's not. In any other industry, there would be lawyers suing the pants off of the NCAA for exploitation of their likeness, or overzealous non-compete enforcement.
These kids are getting better benefits for playing football then most employees at major companies.
Yeah, because outside of athletics, the most talented students/graduates working at top employers always surrender all of their earning power (because they have no other choice).

They also would be super eager to do so if they knew that 99% of them will be generally incapable of earning anything meaningful in that industry as soon as they turn 21.

I'm sure that second major they took in college will be really comforting, particularly because most of them are not special at all in that other field. They just took it because someone forced them to do so and they needed something to their name when they were spit out of the bottom of the other industry where they were once a rockstar.
NCAA also has to balance many other non revenue sports. And if you really want to get into and paid these kids should we have paid Ezekiel Elliott the same as Joe Burrow? Would that have been fair to you? Is that also exploitation?
No, it's not exploitation.
 
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The tweet is obviously talking about banning the purchase of hamburgers for student athletes due to the appearance or potential for receiving said patty based on their status as a student athlete (meanwhile their likeness is used for profit constantly in a non-profit business).

The exploitation is substantial. The system is a farce, but it's largely a beneficial one.

I get it, they are exploited to varying degrees depending on the institution. But to pretend that there isn't a benefit in return is absurd. The athletes at OSU (in particular the football program) are getting world class nutritional services and education and the complaint is about a hamburger? Hamburger vs the Hydration Lounge/Training Table. I don't know the answer to the money/student athlete catch 22, but complaining about a hamburger isn't the argument to make here.
 
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Exploitation is in the eye of the beholder. As a college player you think your exploitation is horrific, Mc Donald's employees think they are exploited and on and on.

Yeah, I've personally been feeling crappy about my job, which when compared to the average American job, is undeniably well-compensated and fairly interesting and affords me a comfortable lifestyle, albeit with intermittently high amounts of stress and some exploitation, so trying to step outside the bubble of present stress and look at the big picture for perspective is definitely a worthwhile pursuit. Hitting some job postings for alternatives and seeing how crappy a lot of them are helps me appreciate my current gig a bit more.
 
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It's pretty obvious how it's exploitation. You simply like the exploitation so you think it's okay.

OSU sells thousands of JT BarrettI'mHonoringTheCalendarYear :roll1: jerseys without paying him a dime. The school/league/NCAA sell billions in advertising with his and his teammates' likenesses. They made millions and millions with digital replications of their likenesses. They hold a basketball tournament that generates a billion all by itself. It's blatant exploitation and the pithy return on their investment is a very outdated revenue model that has not adjusted with the explosion in revenue.

The problem is that few programs are like Ohio State, and so if you address the exploitation and pay athletes (even a sliver of what they are worth), you jeopardize the entire system, particularly the more legitimate student athletes in non revenue sports. It's a farce but a beneficial one.
No, it's not. In any other industry, there would be lawyers suing the pants off of the NCAA for exploitation of their likeness, or overzealous non-compete enforcement.
Yeah, because the most talented students/graduates working at top employers usually surrender all of their earning power (because they have no other choice), most of them doing so with the knowledge that 99% of them will lose almost every ounce of their value the minute they step off campus.No, it's not exploitation.

OSU didn't pay JT Barrett a dime? Gee then how did he pay for that degree? How did he pay for Mickey Marrotti's training and Urban's coaching that allowed him to be a good player in the first place? How did he pay for his apartment? How did he pay for all the food and nutritionist he got? How did he pay for his tutoring to pass his classes?

That's not payment to you? That stuff isn't free for OSU. How is that a pithy return? JT got 200k by avoiding out of state tuiton on his degree. Gee how much do you think Marrotti's training is worth? Urban's coaching? I'll put the value at like 100k for JT which is generous. All that clothing, housing, and food? Let's be very generous and say 50k.

So JT probably received over 350k in benefits in 4 years at OSU. Not good enough for you?
 
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OSU didn't pay JT Barrett a dime? Gee then how did he pay for that degree? How did he pay for Mickey Marrotti's training and Urban's coaching that allowed him to be a good player in the first place? How did he pay for his apartment? How did he pay for all the food and nutritionist he got? How did he pay for his tutoring to pass his classes?

That's not payment to you? That stuff isn't free for OSU. How is that a pithy return? JT got 200k by avoiding out of state tuiton on his degree. Gee how much do you think Marrotti's training is worth? Urban's coaching? I'll put the value at like 100k for JT which is generous. All that clothing, housing, and food? Let's be very generous and say 50k.

So JT probably received over 350k in benefits in 4 years at OSU. Not good enough for you?
If they put Barrett's name on the jersey, they'd lose tens of millions in court.
if they laughably pretend it's a 2016 jersey, they keep making millions on merchandise revenue from many sources in "not the player but lol come on we all know it's his" jerseys

But please, keep throwing out numbers to pretend that blatant exploitation doesn't exist. I'm sure Ezekiel Elliott would be thrilled if the Cowboys started splitting his jersey sales up with the entire football team. As long as he gets to play in a world class facility with the same level of coaching, nutrition and media coverage, who cares if the long snapper gets as much benefit as he does, and Jerry Jones gets the lions' share of the profit?
 
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OSU didn't pay JT Barrett a dime? Gee then how did he pay for that degree? How did he pay for Mickey Marrotti's training and Urban's coaching that allowed him to be a good player in the first place? How did he pay for his apartment? How did he pay for all the food and nutritionist he got? How did he pay for his tutoring to pass his classes?

That's not payment to you? That stuff isn't free for OSU. How is that a pithy return? JT got 200k by avoiding out of state tuiton on his degree. Gee how much do you think Marrotti's training is worth? Urban's coaching? I'll put the value at like 100k for JT which is generous. All that clothing, housing, and food? Let's be very generous and say 50k.

So JT probably received over 350k in benefits in 4 years at OSU. Not good enough for you?
I make it up to him in other ways!!111!!!11!!
 
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If they put Barrett's name on the jersey, they'd lose tens of millions in court.
if they laughably pretend it's a 2016 jersey, they keep making millions on merchandise revenue from many sources in "not the player but lol come on we all know it's his" jerseys

But please, keep throwing out numbers to pretend that blatant exploitation doesn't exist. I'm sure Ezekiel Elliott would be thrilled if the Cowboys started splitting his jersey sales up with the entire football team. As long as he gets to play in a world class facility with the same level of coaching, nutrition and media coverage, who cares if the long snapper gets as much benefit as he does, and Jerry Jones gets the lions' share of the profit?
The only reason he could make money on his jersey number is once again because of the resources Ohio State provided him for free in the very first place.
 
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If they put Barrett's name on the jersey, they'd lose tens of millions in court.
if they laughably pretend it's a 2016 jersey, they keep making millions on merchandise revenue from many sources in "not the player but lol come on we all know it's his" jerseys

But please, keep throwing out numbers to pretend that blatant exploitation doesn't exist. I'm sure Ezekiel Elliott would be thrilled if the Cowboys started splitting his jersey sales up with the entire football team. As long as he gets to play in a world class facility with the same level of coaching, nutrition and media coverage, who cares if the long snapper gets as much benefit as he does, and Jerry Jones gets the lions' share of the profit?
This argument is the same as a McDonalds fry cook saying he should receive a royalty on the fries that were sold. But McDonald's supplied him with the potatoes, the training, the oven etc...
 
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