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NCAA punishes USC - Reggie Bush, OJ Mayo, Dwayne Jarrett, Joe McKnight investigation

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Padraig said:
Here's a question for someone more knowlegable about NCAA rules than I:

I've bought things on credit, "12 months same as cash!" "No money down, no payments until July of 2007!"...wall to wall carpeting, the new "sleep number" air mattress bed, etc., etc., and I know a house is a big difference to most of us, but most of us aren't (even 12 months ago) projected to go top 5 in the NFL Draft and be instantly worth tens of millions of dollars, so...

What would be the "legality" (NCAA rules) of an establishment (bank, real estate developer, etc.) leasing a house to a family, 12 months "same as cash", who is either a.) going to be multi millionaires from being drafted by an NFL team, or (in the case of injury) b.) have enough cash from an insurance policy to cover should a career in Football become impossible?

How long is too long to "loan" a car, house, etc. based on future value if an agreement is entered into eventually paying for such assets according to NCAA amature status rules?
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you cant capitalize on your own fame.

on the car thing that was what came up in part of the maurice thing. it varies by state. i believe in the state of ohio maurice was ok b/c it was just considered a test drive.

lines are blurry, vauge, based on prior cases and scenarios and often hard to distguinsish without all the facts, usually all the facts are not released to the general public.
 
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Steve19 said:
Is there a formula to this? Recent national champion, looks a bit weaker and not likely to repeat. Whiff of a scandal? Hey, this is real news, let's dig!
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I must admit that is the worst part of this whole deal. The Entertainment and whatever dirt we can dig up network seems to thrive on bringing down programs at their zenith - oftentimes without real investigative journalism on their part.

We know they gave Columbus the treatment, you can with reasonable accuracy predict that this story will be embellished with all and sundry relevant or unrelated particulars ...

We should start a poll to predict in which order Espn makes reference to

A -- The other hidden story behind the Bush story
B -- Papadakis' Tavern
C -- PC and his famous flying jet
D -- "Were other Trojans on the take" Which assertive headline will be accompanied by the flimsiest of conjecture, backed up by reams of blank paper.
E -- Other - fill in the blank.
 
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jimotis4heisman said:
i dont know about all your numbuers, but youre agreeing with me. i was just pointing that out to all of those who werent aware of the san diego and columbus market.
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right, the markets are completly opposite.. yes i do agree with you and i wouldn't trust my numbers besides the average price in central ohio, just estimations (im suprised tg didnt spend his lunch period looking up the exact amounts and correcting me:biggrin: )

The biggest thing for someone looking at this to know about the prices:
in cali 750,000 gets you about 3,000 sq ft (in this case)
in columbus (or powell in the case of the house you used as an example) 750,000 gets you nearly 5,000 sq ft, excluding the 2,000 sq ft finished basement
 
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sandgk said:
I must admit that is the worst part of this whole deal. The Entertainment and whatever dirt we can dig up network seems to thrive on bringing down programs at their zenith - oftentimes without real investigative journalism on their part.

We know they gave Columbus the treatment, you can with reasonable accuracy predict that this story will be embellished with all and sundry relevant or unrelated particulars ...

We should start a poll to predict in which order Espn makes reference to

A -- The other hidden story behind the Bush story
B -- Papadakis' Tavern
C -- PC and his famous flying jet
D -- "Were other Trojans on the take" Which assertive headline will be accompanied by the flimsiest of conjecture, backed up by reams of blank paper.
E -- Other - fill in the blank.
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I suppose its a mix of probable scandal and the newsworthiness of a big program. USC has bee portrayed as squeaky clean and I suppose that makes something like this more newsworthy.

When you have a story that's spreading like wildfire, like this one, the lack of transparency about who paid the rent and whether it was market related is like dry tinder. It really gets it going.

In our case, it was Clarett making wild accusations. In this case, Bush's silence may do the same for USC.

If Bush had said, "look, the house cost $750,00 and houses like that rent for about $5000 a month and that's what we paid" this would be all over, provided that journalists could work out that they earned enough to pay this. But the alleged cars, the house, like Mili said, it keeps looking more suspicious.

JWins is right, we can talk about this. I think what is important on BP is that we don't rush to judge Bush, his family, or USC. One thing is certain, the truth will out now that this is exposed to this degree.
 
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i just got an email with this and some other stuff about revoking the heisman. jumping of the diving board without knowing whats under you yes, but an interesting tidbit of the ballot. seems some people are pressuring trophy trust for an investigation...
The official Heisman ballot includes this wording: "In order that there will be no misunderstanding regarding the eligibility of a candidate, the recipient of the award MUST be a bona fide student of an accredited university. The recipient must be in compliance with the bylaws defining an NCAA student."
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sandgk said:
I must admit that is the worst part of this whole deal. The Entertainment and whatever dirt we can dig up network seems to thrive on bringing down programs at their zenith - oftentimes without real investigative journalism on their part.

We know they gave Columbus the treatment, you can with reasonable accuracy predict that this story will be embellished with all and sundry relevant or unrelated particulars ...

We should start a poll to predict in which order Espn makes reference to

A -- The other hidden story behind the Bush story
B -- Papadakis' Tavern
C -- PC and his famous flying jet
D -- "Were other Trojans on the take" Which assertive headline will be accompanied by the flimsiest of conjecture, backed up by reams of blank paper.
E -- Other - fill in the blank.
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don't forget any disgruntled former Trojans that will have their words distorted and taken out of context.

methomps.....who are the likely candidates to fill this role?
 
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