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NCAA Division 1-A Name Change

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Should the NCAA change Division I-A to "Football Bowl Subdivision" for football?

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 6.5%

  • No

    Votes: 41 89.1%

  • I really don't care

    Votes: 2 4.3%
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ScriptOhio

ScriptOhio

Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
What a "croc of shit"!!!

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What's in a name? Leaving the 'I-AA stigma' behind

For the first time since they were created 28 years ago, the top divisions of NCAA football could get new names next week.

Division I-A would become the "Football Bowl Subdivision" and Division I-AA the "NCAA Football Championship Subdivision."
The 16-team postseason tournament in Division I-AA would be called the "NCAA Division I Football Championship."
The proposal came about because schools in Division I-AA felt stigmatized when the designation, which applies to football only, is used by media and others to describe the entire athletic program.
"You get a lot of 'I-AA basketball' labels that were never intended to be for any sport other than football," said Patty Viverito, commissioner of the Gateway Football Conference, which includes Indiana State. "Missouri Valley Conference basketball is Division I, not I-AA, on the same plane as 300-plus other Division I basketball programs. That's the incentive to change the name."
School presidents on the Division I Board of Directors will make the decision Aug. 3 in Indianapolis. Viverito said she expects that the new names will be adopted. She said the Conference Commissioners Association endorsed them last month.
Conferences, not the NCAA, control postseason football in Division I-A because of their historic ties with the bowls.
There will be no change in the governance structure of the NCAA, which gives Division I-A schools the largest share of votes.

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"You get a lot of 'I-AA basketball' labels that were never intended to be for any sport other than football," said Patty Viverito, commissioner of the Gateway Football Conference, which includes Indiana State. "Missouri Valley Conference basketball is Division I, not I-AA, on the same plane as 300-plus other Division I basketball programs. That's the incentive to change the name."

Really? I never have noticed anybody being confused. Most poeple seem to realize the MVC is a Divison 1 basketball league.

Why don't they just call it "Football Major League" and "Football Minor League" Oh, their feelings would be hurt. :roll1:
 
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I've heard a lot of people who have screwed up the I-A - I-AA distinction.

I think the intention is in the right place. In terms of levels of competition, Division I-A, I-AA, and I-AAA (hell, I bet an overwhelming majority of people don't even know about the I-AAA distinction) are all equal. They are allowed the same number of scholarship athletes in every sport that is not football. I-A schools have football, and are allowed the highest maximum number of scholarships for football. These are the big spenders, and the bowl teams. I-AA schools have a lower number of football scholarships, and they have the playoff system, just like every other NCAA sport and division does (except I-A football) I-AAA schools are Division I schools that do not have football at all. When you get outside of football, Division I is just one big pool. Football dominates the image of college sports so much though, that that stigma carries over to other sports. If I were the AD at a place like Wright State, Dayton, Youngstown State, or Cleveland State, I'd really resent my basketball, baseball, or softball teams being referred to as being on a lower tier than the bigtime football schools, especially when in those other sports they all compete on the same level, and often, those "lesser schools are just as successful or more successful.
 
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ScriptOhio said:
What a "croc of shit"!!!

IndyStar.com
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<!-- HEADLINE & TIMESTAMP --><!-- ARTICLE HEADLINE -->July 25, 2006


What's in a name? Leaving the 'I-AA stigma' behind

For the first time since they were created 28 years ago, the top divisions of NCAA football could get new names next week.

Division I-A would become the "Football Bowl Subdivision" and Division I-AA the "NCAA Football Championship Subdivision."
The 16-team postseason tournament in Division I-AA would be called the "NCAA Division I Football Championship."
The proposal came about because schools in Division I-AA felt stigmatized when the designation, which applies to football only, is used by media and others to describe the entire athletic program.
"You get a lot of 'I-AA basketball' labels that were never intended to be for any sport other than football," said Patty Viverito, commissioner of the Gateway Football Conference, which includes Indiana State. "Missouri Valley Conference basketball is Division I, not I-AA, on the same plane as 300-plus other Division I basketball programs. That's the incentive to change the name."
School presidents on the Division I Board of Directors will make the decision Aug. 3 in Indianapolis. Viverito said she expects that the new names will be adopted. She said the Conference Commissioners Association endorsed them last month.
Conferences, not the NCAA, control postseason football in Division I-A because of their historic ties with the bowls.
There will be no change in the governance structure of the NCAA, which gives Division I-A schools the largest share of votes.

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Two crocks at least!!:biggrin:

:gobucks3: :osu2: :gobucks4:
 
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I wonder how much money these people get paid to sit around and think of new names. Must be the same ones who insist on getting rid of all the "Native American" mascots because there are "millions" of people who are offended by it.

'oh...you mean all the Indians from that tribe are dead...I didn't know, i just don't like it then, you still have to change it' (Illini)

Common Since people, If it aint broke, don't fix it.


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That's because there is no I-AAA. There's I-A, I-AA, II, and III...there has never been a I-AAA.
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Subsequently the term "Division I-AAA" was added to delineate Division I schools which do not field a football program at all.
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Like I was saying... Most people don't even know about the I-AAA distinction. Football dominates the way people perceive college athletics, and that's not always fair.
 
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Emphatically no. There is no truly good reason to do this. The suggested names for top tier and next tier are if anything more confusing, not less. The existing designations are not that confusing, at least, not when you are talking football.

No, and that likely means (given the board's and my track record of concorndance with the NCAA brains trust) that this will pass and happen.

Sum and substance -- It isn't broken NCAA, don't fix it!
 
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Apparently the NCAA ignored the BP poll results in this thread.

Starting in December, Division I-A wil be called the Football Bowl Subdivision. That just rolls off the tongue.

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By Steve Wieberg, USA TODAY

The NCAA is doing a little re-labeling, eliminating the Division I-A and I-AA tags that officially separate college football's major and more modest programs.

Acknowledging frustration that the classification often brands an entire university as big-time or non-big-time, the association's Division I Board of Directors moved Thursday to rename the subdivisions. Beginning in December, they'll be known by their respective postseason formats.

What now are I-A programs — the Texases, Notre Dames and others vying for bowls — will play in the Football Bowl Subdivision. The Georgia Southerns, Montanas and others now known as I-AA will play in the NCAA Football Championship Subdivision, alluding to the 16-team playoff that settles its national title.

Only the names will change. Individual school affiliations, postseason formats, scholarship guidelines and other divisional specifics will remain the same.

Conference commissioners and other officials who came up with the new monikers sought the action "to move away from using those terms (I-A and I-AA) more broadly than what they were intended for," said David Berst, the NCAA's vice president for Division I.

"We'll attempt" to drop them, Berst said, in conjunction with the Dec. 22 I-AA championship, which will become the "Division I football championship."
• As many as 120 or so academically deficient college sports teams could be subject to toughened NCAA penalties scheduled to go into effect during the 2007-08 school year.

The NCAA board drew up guidelines Thursday requiring teams to post four-year average Academic Progress Rates (APRs) of 900 or better to avoid facing recruiting, scholarship and practice restrictions or, if problems persist, postseason bans.

That's slightly lower than the 925 threshold applied to initial scholarship penalties that are designed as warnings in advance of the potentially stiffer sanctions. The latter are aimed at teams that consistently underperform in the classroom, what University of Hartford President and NCAA Executive Committee chairman Walt Harrison called "the worst of the worst."

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