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NC.net OSU #5 best DBs

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Alabama
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Let's do some simple math. First, the Tide finished 2004 with the nation's top ranked pass defense, giving up a meager 1282 yards passing to opponents through 11 games. No other defense held their opponents below the 1300-yard mark. Opposing QB's 43.4% completion rate (2nd-best in I-A) also proves what these DBs can do. Second, all four starters return for Bama. Need we say more? Shutdown corner Charlie Peprah successfully made the switch to strong safety, where he was a big factor in all phases. Ramzee Robinson's emergence as a legitimate shutdown corner allows the coaching staff to make such a move. Backup Simeon Castille is ready to become one of the SEC's top contributors and push last year's starter, super-quick Anthony Madison, which gives the Tide even more depth at the corner…whew! At free safety, '04 all-SEC selection Roman Harper is even more of a ball hawk than Peprah. Incoming safety Chris Keyes successfully represents two years of Shula's efforts to increase size/physicality here. This is a veteran group of upperclassmen (three seniors, one junior), making our decision for the top DB unit ranking a no-brainer.
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Miami FL

The Canes have been known as "Defensive Back U." for a very long time. For years, NFL draft followers have witnessed player after player from Miami taken in the early rounds of the April draft, only to then see the Hurricanes respond the very next year with yet another top secondary unit, full of fresh names. Calling it a reloading process would be an understatement. Granted, one of the nation's best defensive backs/players has departed (Antrel Rolle was the 8th overall 2005 draft pick), but for those still wondering how this might effect the secondary - you must not have read the above statements. Who fills in for Rolle? A year ago, Marcus Maxey recorded the team's fastest 40-yard dash time - a grass-singeing 4.25 seconds. This year, it is all-American punt returner Devin Hester with a 4.29-recorded time. Hester also led the team with four INTs. Both will battle for Rolle's vacated corner spot. Depth is plentiful, with three players likely to see (equal) time at the safety spots (Meriweather, Threat and Reddick). Keep an eye on highly-touted freshman Kenny Phillips, a local (Carol City) strong safety who was named the USA Today Defensive Player of the Year in 2004 (prep teammate of standout linebacker Willie Williams). The hits just keep coming in Coral Gables.
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Penn State
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While all the talk around Happy Valley has mainly been focused on a great LB core, the secondary should, too, provide the spark needed to get this team back into bowl contention. Most of the group that formed the nation's No. 6 pass defense (No.4 in efficiency) is back, including second-team all-Big Ten corner Alan Zemaitis, a game-changing playmaker who has been a steady part of this defense since his 2002 sophomore campaign. Counterpart Anwar Phillips also blossomed into a shutdown corner in his first year as a starter, breaking up 10 passes and picking off four, both team-highs, as foes threw away from Zemaitis. Pittsburgh-area recruit Justin King (top CB in 2005's recruiting class) gives this secondary even more depth/playmakers. Calvin Lowry, one of the team's fastest, returns at HERO (fitting name, proven by his four fumble recoveries), and Chris Harrell (a 2003 co-starter with the now departed Andrew Guman) takes over at free safety after returning from a neck injury that forced him to sit out last fall. Harrell's return has been anxiously anticipated and solidifies this group as a sure fire Top 5 DB unit. Coaches loves to use those nickel schemes to stop high-powered passers, and they'll still have enough depth to do that, especially with these youngsters who know already how to keep the play in front of them effectively (only eight I-A teams allowed less than ten passing TDs, and PSU led the nation by allowing only five). Don't expect many big plays against this bunch.
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Southern Miss
The Golden Eagles represent the first so-called "mid-major" team to break into any of our 2005 Top Five Unit Rankings. In large part, USM's inclusion has to do with the fact that top DB units are tougher to locate for this season. Moreover, all four starters return to this secondary, and they are led by NC.net preseason all-American dual-threat (at both DB and kick returner) John Eubanks. Other starter Caleb Hendrix can also be left on an island, so the corners are solid as they force most action over the middle. This ranking decision could be considered suspect if you consider how all-CUSA FS Trevis Coley has moved to weakside LB to join his twin brother (Kevis) in an effort to fill major LB vacancies. Expect the hard-hitting Trevis, however, to remain a key defender in this pass coverage clog as late spring decisions may place him floating from LB to DB. This same secondary was their defensive strongpoint in '04. With twin brothers truly representing the interchange-ability amongst this back seven, lots of nickel and dime looks will blur the lines between the speedy LBs that can drop back and how the DBs are plugged in for run support, and it will all have optimal affect.
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Ohio State
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In most seasons, the Buckeyes would have just missed with this unit. But, again, given the lack of quality secondaries for '05, they make our list based on possibilities/potential and experience. CB Ashton Youboty is a top-rate Big Ten defender…he is big and fast with NFL skills. He was the team's best pass defender a year ago and is likely to dot many post-season (all-whatever) lists. The key to this group will be locating a corner to play the opposite side. Thus far, former strong safety Tyler Everett has held down the position. Cleveland-native Jamario O'Neal is a true freshman who comes in as Rivals.com No.3-rated corner. All of the above-mentioned have apparently shown coaches enough so that any talk of sophomore sensation Ted Ginn playing both at receiver and cornerback appears to be curtailed. At FS, Nate Salley returns for his senior campaign after reaping all-Big Ten honors. He will be starting his third season and is one of the true Buckeye field leaders. OSU can do even better than last year's bend-but-don't-break mentality, a conservative approach which allowed a mere 5.6 yards per attempt and kept the longest pass play from an opponent to a measly 46 yards.
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I think their top 3 choices are solid - people forget how solid Penn St.'s defense was last year becase of their bad record. But I've got to prefer our Db's over Southern Miss.

And it is interesting that Donte Whitner's name isn't even mentioned.
 
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Although Miami has been churning out top notch DBs for the past 5 years or so, I wouldn't be so quick to refer to them as "Defensive Back U" over us. This chapped me up a little bit, but I think for this year's group, #5 is a fair start.
 
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Cornerback6 said:
Although Miami has been churning out top notch DBs for the past 5 years or so, I wouldn't be so quick to refer to them as "Defensive Back U" over us. This chapped me up a little bit, but I think for this year's group, #5 is a fair start.
while i didn't care for the "defensive back U" statement either. i think its more than generous for us to be at #5. i don't think people realize how big fox's shoes are and how difficult its going to be to fill em. giving us #5 with a 3 man crew... thats more than fair imo.

BuckeyeBill73, whitner while good A. didn't start a full season B. isn't a lock at a position. chances are good he will start... but where?
 
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Donte Whitner will probably start at SS, I feel Donte Whitner may be the best defensive back they have.(depending on how well Ginn plays at DB.) Nate Salley is a good FS and plays alot like Mike Doss. Salley is a very good athlete if you remember back to 2003 right after they won the National Championship, Salley began to play basketball for Jim O'Brien. And Salley is not afraid to lay a lick on the ball carrier. I think Ashton Youboty will look down any recevier in the country. On the other side Ginn will get pt and so will true freshman Jamario O'Neal who I feel will be Big Ten Freshman of the Year. Jamario is a great player and knows alot about the game, I enjoyed watching him throughout high school and now when he comes to tOSU he will fit right in and be a great player for years to come. I also feel Tyler Everett is a very strong player and would be a good back up safety and/or nickel back.
 
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BuckeyeBill73 said:
And it is interesting that Donte Whitner's name isn't even mentioned.
I thought the exact same thing while reading this. I think we have three fabulous DB's and possibly all Big-Ten Selections, and I feel that Donte is going to have a huge junior campaign in the S&G.
 
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This is a really generous spot for our backs. Everyone knows about our star LB's, but dont talk much about the men, behind the men. Im also suprised to not see Whitners name on the reference details that were given. Whitner seems to be a lock at SS, since the coaches said he didnt pan out well at DB (jus too much of a "hitter" than a "cover" guy).....And its good to see the media realize that Ginn at DB wont be happening THIS YEAR (maybe next or in some goal line stance type plays).

All and all, a good write up. Ill be fine without being dubbed "Defensive Back U" - We can take over the "LB U" from Penn St. or maybe "WR U" since we have been churning our great ones for some time (though not all do great in pros).
 
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In their defense, Miami has produced like 5 straight 1st round DBs, which OSU cannot claim. So they are somewhat justified in being called DB U, tho our homerismw ants to suggest our longevity at the position is greater.
 
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BuckeyePride85 said:
This is a really generous spot for our backs. Everyone knows about our star LB's, but dont talk much about the men, behind the men. Im also suprised to not see Whitners name on the reference details that were given. Whitner seems to be a lock at SS, since the coaches said he didnt pan out well at DB (jus too much of a "hitter" than a "cover" guy).....And its good to see the media realize that Ginn at DB wont be happening THIS YEAR (maybe next or in some goal line stance type plays).

All and all, a good write up. Ill be fine without being dubbed "Defensive Back U" - We can take over the "LB U" from Penn St. or maybe "WR U" since we have been churning our great ones for some time (though not all do great in pros).
I think that you hit the nail on the head here, as far as Whitner not being mentioned because his coverage skills are lacking(not necessarily what Buckeyepride was getting at). Whitner has not been great in coverage, nor has Salley. Both are, IMHO, going for the big hit, rather than the pass defense. The more that I talk shit about how bad Salley is, the more he seems to produce on the field. I'm absolutely positive that he could give, at the maximum, of one shit about my opinion on his pursuit angles, and inability to play the ball while in the air, but I honestly think that Salley is improving at this, and that Whitner not improving at the same issue, may be why he wasn't mentioned in this article. Then again, I've been drinking tonight, and all of my analysis is probably wrong, and/or ridiculously over optimistic of Salley's abilities, and pessimistic of Whitner's. I just hope that Donte doesn't continue to get caught up in the "Lights Out" reputation that has gotten him this far. I hope that he learns that actually playing the ball, and knocking the pass down will help your team win more than blasting the guy that has already caught the ball, and picked up the first down.
 
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Penn State
While all the talk around Happy Valley has mainly been focused on a great LB core, the secondary should, too, provide the spark needed to get this team back into bowl contention. Most of the group that formed the nation's No. 6 pass defense (No.4 in efficiency) is back, including second-team all-Big Ten corner Alan Zemaitis, a game-changing playmaker who has been a steady part of this defense since his 2002 sophomore campaign. Counterpart Anwar Phillips also blossomed into a shutdown corner in his first year as a starter, breaking up 10 passes and picking off four, both team-highs, as foes threw away from Zemaitis. Pittsburgh-area recruit Justin King (top CB in 2005's recruiting class) gives this secondary even more depth/playmakers. Calvin Lowry, one of the team's fastest, returns at HERO (fitting name, proven by his four fumble recoveries), and Chris Harrell (a 2003 co-starter with the now departed Andrew Guman) takes over at free safety after returning from a neck injury that forced him to sit out last fall. Harrell's return has been anxiously anticipated and solidifies this group as a sure fire Top 5 DB unit. Coaches loves to use those nickel schemes to stop high-powered passers, and they'll still have enough depth to do that, especially with these youngsters who know already how to keep the play in front of them effectively (only eight I-A teams allowed less than ten passing TDs, and PSU led the nation by allowing only five). Don't expect many big plays against this bunch.

Too bad they'll still find a way to lose 4-5 games.

On another note though, I find myself mildly disturbed about the Penn St. game. It has that Wisconsin 2003 feel to it..........
 
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"Miami has produced like 5 straight 1st round DBs, which OSU cannot claim"


I believe OSU has had every starting DB get drafted into the NFL since about 1997--including 1st-rounders in Gamble, Clements, Plummer and Winfield.
 
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