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MySpace and Recruiting

Most of the time there is a stupid rule by the NCAA, the reason it is there is that somebody made such an egregious end run on the rules that a riduculous rule needs to be made to stop common sense violations or to close loopholes.

That is an excellent point, and one which I admit I had not directly considered.

I should also say, I'd be on board with Thomp's "Secondary Violation" idea... no teeth, just a good scare.
 
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You guys are right, the NCAA doesn't always make sense. The problem is, there is no reasonable way to get fans to stop this behavior. Realistically, I think that 99% of the time, stuff like this is gonna slide by. The problem is, there is the potential for fans on the internet to make an organized effort to bombard a recruit with contact - or even worse - for a coach to do it by proxy.

Most of the time there is a stupid rule by the NCAA, the reason it is there is that somebody made such an egregious end run on the rules that a riduculous rule needs to be made to stop common sense violations or to close loopholes.

Bingo...here's your prize.
 
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Not sure why you felt the need to defend yourself here....but my comment was not intended for you.

I've seen firsthand how hectic, annoying, and, occasionally, scary this recruiting monster can become. What may seem innocent sometimes is not...especially when it is coming from hundreds of directions.

Sorry grad, I didn't mean to sound defensive and my post came off as that. All I was trying to say is that some recruits don't mind other players talking with them on myspace, even if they aren't necessarily big-time recruits(say me for example:)) . Now just having hundreds of teens/people trying to add you to sell their school, that is scary and I can see where a breach of privacy can be reached at a certain point.So I guess I'm not in total disagreement with you here.
 
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On a side note, say on my team, there was a certain player that was being recruited by big time schools. And say OSU was one of them, but wasn't top on his list. As a teammate of his, would it violate NCAA rules if I tried to get him to go to OSU?
 
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On a side note, say on my team, there was a certain player that was being recruited by big time schools. And say OSU was one of them, but wasn't top on his list. As a teammate of his, would it violate NCAA rules if I tried to get him to go to OSU?

Generally, no it is not a violation. You have an existing relationship with that recruit. However, it depends on what you mean by "[try] to get him to go to OSU". Something innocuous like talking up OSU is likely fine. Even flat out telling him to go to OSU every day is fine. You will probably annoy him more than help OSU, but that is your perogative (IMO). Beyond that, the best advice is to ask the compliance office.

The compliance office will likely be overcautious and tell you to not do it. That is a good point to remember that JT and his staff probably don't need your help.
 
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Generally, no it is not a violation. You have an existing relationship with that recruit. However, it depends on what you mean by "[try] to get him to go to OSU". Something innocuous like talking up OSU is likely fine. Even flat out telling him to go to OSU every day is fine. You will probably annoy him more than help OSU, but that is your perogative (IMO). Beyond that, the best advice is to ask the compliance office.

The compliance office will likely be overcautious and tell you to not do it. That is a good point to remember that JT and his staff probably don't need your help.

Ok I'll remember that. I was just asking for future reference. We really only have one guy that is being recruited by OSU. I was just wondering what was ok to say and what isn't.
 
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Can we get a group of people together to pose as scUM fans... and post over 100s of recruits pages?? Just a thought bwhaahah

That's another problem with this whole deal that the actual school can get in trouble for the myspace deal. Bucknuts posted this and it would be easy for a bunch of imposters to get a school in trouble. I don't know how they can enforce that one.
 
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That's another problem with this whole deal that the actual school can get in trouble for the myspace deal. Bucknuts posted this and it would be easy for a bunch of imposters to get a school in trouble. I don't know how they can enforce that one.

There is more to that story than simply contacting the recruit. That is why the entire MySpace, Bebo, etc thing is a problem. Also, many of the recruit/player pages are fake. I know of a handful of "recruits" with MySpace pages that give recruiting updates and communicate with "fans"....yet the actual recruit has nothing to do with the page.
 
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That's why the entire point is to just STAY AWAY FROM IT. I'm amazed at how much information people can get on these kids even w/o Myspace. Most people know what grades these kids are getting and when their taking their standardized tests. People are hanging on what freakin' T-SHIRT these kids are wearing... and for some, that's still not enough, and they go out looking for their personal websites. Some people need really just need to get a girl or find another hobby and stay out of the way.

There are two things at play here. First of all, many kids don't realize there is a difference between "personal" and "private". Myspace pages are personal, but are very public. Furthermore, they become even less private if you achieve any degree of celebrity. If a recruit doesn't want that kind of attention, perhaps they should not be on myspace.

On the other side, many fans fail to see the distinction between "personal" information and "news" information. With the recruiting explosion on the internet, the line between the two has been blurred, if not mostly erased. The NCAA has decided that fans making recruting contact with young athletes through email and websites like myspace is one place where they are going to re-draw that line.
 
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The problem IMO is a tendency to think of recruits as objects rather than people. It's so easy to forget that these kids are just like the ones next door, with the same trials and tribulations and indecisions and inexperience. Respect the skills, respect the player... but too many people either get into this hero worship crap or think of recruits as just the cogs in the gigantic wheel of football. There isn't anyone anywhere who isn't just a person first... just keep that in mind and all else follows... not creating havoc by stalking them on MySpace, for example.
 
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Another thing with myspace is that if you don't want people to contact you on there, don't add them. You can also make NONE of your info available other than your display picture if you set your profile to private. In other words, recruits can have myspace and not have all the unwanted attention...if they choose not to.
 
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