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NikTungsten said:
When will the media stop with their lovefest for Auburn? I just read an article on si.com stating that Auburn had a legitimate claim to the NC last year. Until they begin to play a legit D1A schedule year in and year out they dont deserve to be considered for a NC. Home games against LaTech, LaMonroe, the Citadel and an away game at powerhouse MissSt does not inspire me to give Auburn any credit. Those teams have combined for a grand total of 2 winning seasons between 2000-2004, and yet the media continues the love. I cant imagine tOSU trying to pad their schedule with weak D1A teams and/or D1AA teams and expecting to get any national respect.

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Count me as one person that thought Auburn should've at least played for the NC last year, with the strength of the SEC I feel that any team that goes undefeated in that conference deserves a shot at the title, I believe the last team to have a perfect season in the SEC was 1998 national champion Tennessee Volunteers team, shows you how competitive that conference is.
 
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FadeproofBuck said:
Count me as one person that thought Auburn should've at least played for the NC last year, with the strength of the SEC I feel that any team that goes undefeated in that conference deserves a shot at the title, I believe the last team to have a perfect season in the SEC was 1998 national champion Tennessee Volunteers team, shows you how competitive that conference is.
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The Pac10 hadn't had a team with a perfect season since 1991. Does that mean the Pac10 is more competitive? Competitive is a league that has seen all but one team win the conference in the last 12 years (hint, not the SEC). The competition in the SEC....

(since 1990)

Kentucky is...

1-3 vs. Alabama
0-3 vs. Auburn
0-15 vs. Florida
2-13 vs. Georgia
5-8 vs. Louisiana St.
0-15 vs. Tennessee

Vandy is...
1-12 vs. Alabama
0-8 vs. Auburn
0-13 vs. Florida
2-13 vs. Georgia
1-4 vs. Louisiana St.
0-15 vs. Tennessee

South Carolina looks like a conference powerhouse by comparison

South Carolina is...
3-2 vs. Alabama
0-2 vs. Auburn
0-13 vs. Florida
4-9 vs. Georgia
1-2 vs. Louisiana St.
1-12 vs. Tennessee

So if you're one of the powerhouse SEC teams (and figure that at any year 2 of the 6 are mediocre like Bama and Florida were this year), how does your schedule shake out. You schedule LA Tech, La-Monroe, and Citadel as your non-conference games (all at home) because you have to play the big bad SEC schedule. Then you play 2-3 of the bye weeks I listed above. Throw in an average team like Arkansas (1-6 v Georgia, 2-9 v Tennessee) or Mississippi (3-10 v Bama, 3-12 v Auburn, 0-5 v Tennessee). Add another average team like Mississippi St (3-12 v Georgia, 1-6 v Tennessee) and you're through 7-8 games of your schedule.

As I said before, 2 of the 6 powerhouses will be mediocre in any given year, so let's slap one of those teams onto your schedule. Then you have to play the powerhouse in your division and one or both of the powerhouses from the other division. There is your SEC schedule. Two or three powerhouse opponents surrounded by three non-conference jokes, 2-3 uncompetitive SEC teams, and 2-3 average teams. Hardly the week-in, week-out bloodbath that SEC fans claim.

Two other interesting quirks: (1) Most of the time powerhouse opponents are not back-to-back. With some exceptions, powerhouses are surrounded on both sides by bye weeks or Vandy weeks. (2) There are very few surprises on the slate. 95% of the time, you know who the good teams are and who the bad teams are. No bottom feeder surprises the top team and becomes a powerhouse like Cal did to USC in 2003. In the last 40 years, only one team outside of the power 6 has won the SEC title, and that was in 1976 when Kentucky shared the title with Georgia.

The strength of the SEC is its viewing power. Football is big in the South, and ESPN and the like are in the business of catering to the biggest audience. Without contest, that is the SEC crowd. That crowd wouldn't tune in to hear that they aren't the best.
 
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Thomps you may also add that SEC teams, and I mean the contenders, dont EVER play out of the region.

Oh, and Auburn's SOS was miserable. Even if they do play in the SEC (which I don't think is as great as people would have us believe, but make no mistake it's still a top 3 conf.)
 
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EngineerHorn said:
That, sir, was one of the best things I have ever read on a message board. If I overheard you say that at a bar, I'd buy you a beer. I now dub thee "Honorary Longhorn"

I have a few others to add if you don't mind:
Brian Bosworth, spying on your arch rival's practices, Switzer porking his assistant's wife, Switzer just acting on the fact that he is hellspawn, trailer parks, uncle-dads, acting as a destination for Texan traitors, and so many more.

Please understand that this is all the smack I have given the outcomes of the last 5 TX-OU games, so I hope you folks understand my enthusiasm.
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I agree, Hook 'em Frito, but just for the record, the wishbone was invented by Darrell K. Royal at UT. Oh and the reason that the University of Oklahoma calls itself ou has less to do with dyslexia and more to do with inbreeding! :biggrin:
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Thomps you may also add that SEC teams, and I mean the contenders, dont EVER play out of the region.

Oh, and Auburn's SOS was miserable. Even if they do play in the SEC (which I don't think is as great as people would have us believe, but make no mistake it's still a top 3 conf.)
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Auburn certainly deserved criticism for their OOC schedule in 2004. But in 2001 they played a roadie at Syracuse, and in 2002 had a road game against the USC that's not in their conference.

But your statement about SEC powers and lack of road trips has a good deal of truth to it, it's just not something that's absolute.

High Lonesome said:
but just for the record, the wishbone was invented by Darrell K. Royal at UT
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Just for the more detailed record, HighLonesome, the wishbone was invented by UT assistant Emory Bellard, who was on Darrell Royal's staff. This article is from an assistant coach at Rice University in Houston:

http://www.americanfootballmonthly.com/Arena/NS_Magazine/Current/clinic01.html

Coach Bellard was hired to coach linebackers at the University of Texas in 1967. In the spring of 1968, Texas head coach Darryl Royal moved Emory from coaching linebackers to the offensive side of the ball. Coach Royal was always a fan of the option offense. In looking at the personnel Texas had, Coach Bellard felt they had three great running backs. So he put in the basic-T formation and began running the triple option. That summer Coach Bellard, his sons, and some former Texas players ran through the option from a variety of sets and came upon the wishbone. Coach Bellard did not call his formations the wishbone. He simply called the formations right and left. The originator of the wishbone nickname was the Mickey Herskowitz of the Houston Chronicle.

Coach Bellard presented his findings to Coach Royal, who embraced the idea. Texas tied their first game, lost their second, then won thirty straight games and two national championships in the wishbone.
 
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methomps said:
The Pac10 hadn't had a team with a perfect season since 1991. Does that mean the Pac10 is more competitive? Competitive is a league that has seen all but one team win the conference in the last 12 years (hint, not the SEC). The competition in the SEC....

(since 1990)

Kentucky is...

1-3 vs. Alabama
0-3 vs. Auburn
0-15 vs. Florida
2-13 vs. Georgia
5-8 vs. Louisiana St.
0-15 vs. Tennessee

Vandy is...
1-12 vs. Alabama
0-8 vs. Auburn
0-13 vs. Florida
2-13 vs. Georgia
1-4 vs. Louisiana St.
0-15 vs. Tennessee

South Carolina looks like a conference powerhouse by comparison

South Carolina is...
3-2 vs. Alabama
0-2 vs. Auburn
0-13 vs. Florida
4-9 vs. Georgia
1-2 vs. Louisiana St.
1-12 vs. Tennessee

So if you're one of the powerhouse SEC teams (and figure that at any year 2 of the 6 are mediocre like Bama and Florida were this year), how does your schedule shake out. You schedule LA Tech, La-Monroe, and Citadel as your non-conference games (all at home) because you have to play the big bad SEC schedule. Then you play 2-3 of the bye weeks I listed above. Throw in an average team like Arkansas (1-6 v Georgia, 2-9 v Tennessee) or Mississippi (3-10 v Bama, 3-12 v Auburn, 0-5 v Tennessee). Add another average team like Mississippi St (3-12 v Georgia, 1-6 v Tennessee) and you're through 7-8 games of your schedule.

As I said before, 2 of the 6 powerhouses will be mediocre in any given year, so let's slap one of those teams onto your schedule. Then you have to play the powerhouse in your division and one or both of the powerhouses from the other division. There is your SEC schedule. Two or three powerhouse opponents surrounded by three non-conference jokes, 2-3 uncompetitive SEC teams, and 2-3 average teams. Hardly the week-in, week-out bloodbath that SEC fans claim.

Two other interesting quirks: (1) Most of the time powerhouse opponents are not back-to-back. With some exceptions, powerhouses are surrounded on both sides by bye weeks or Vandy weeks. (2) There are very few surprises on the slate. 95% of the time, you know who the good teams are and who the bad teams are. No bottom feeder surprises the top team and becomes a powerhouse like Cal did to USC in 2003. In the last 40 years, only one team outside of the power 6 has won the SEC title, and that was in 1976 when Kentucky shared the title with Georgia.

The strength of the SEC is its viewing power. Football is big in the South, and ESPN and the like are in the business of catering to the biggest audience. Without contest, that is the SEC crowd. That crowd wouldn't tune in to hear that they aren't the best.
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Yes, but they also played Tennessee twice, Georgia, and LSU, all big SEC powers, only team missing is Florida from that SEC list that they didnt play.

Argubly, the SEC is the best conference, with the ACC and possibly Big 10 also making a good case. I just don't see how a team from one of the best conferences can go undefeated and not even be able to have a shot at the national title. Outside of the LSU game, they dominated every school they played, including the SEC championship game.

My big gripe is that I thought Auburn should've gotten in over OU, which played a monster non-conference schedule of Bowling Green, Houston, and Oregon, not as bad as Auburn but not much better either. The Big 12 was bad this year, and they got some scares from Kansas State and Oklahoma State as well.

Anyway, regardless of Auburn not getting in over Oklahoma, I can assure you that AU vs. USC would've been a better game than what we saw.
 
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Originally Posted by methomps
The Pac10 hadn't had a team with a perfect season since 1991. Does that mean the Pac10 is more competitive? Competitive is a league that has seen all but one team win the conference in the last 12 years (hint, not the SEC). The competition in the SEC....
WIMPY...LA Tech, La-Monroe, and Citadel as your non-conference games (all at home), then Kentucky, Vandy, South Carolina,Arkansas, and or Mississippi and you're through 7-8 games of your schedule...
2 of the 6 powerhouses will be mediocre in any given year, so let's slap one of those teams onto your schedule. Then you have to play the powerhouse in your division and one or both of the powerhouses from the other division. There is your SEC schedule. Two or three powerhouse opponents surrounded by three non-conference jokes, 2-3 uncompetitive SEC teams, and 2-3 average teams...other interesting quirks: Most of the time powerhouse opponents are not back-to-back....There are very few surprises on the slate. 95% of the time, you know who the good teams are and who the bad teams are....In the last 40 years, only one team outside of the power 6 has won the SEC title.

The strength of the SEC is its viewing power. Football is big in the South, and ESPN and the like are in the business of catering to the biggest audience. Without contest, that is the SEC crowd. That crowd wouldn't tune in to hear that they aren't the best.
FadeproofBuck said:
...Argubly, the SEC is the best conference,
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Didn't you read anything Methomps said? Basically the SEC is a fourth or fifth tier conference.
...Auburn should've gotten in over OU, which played a monster non-conference schedule of Bowling Green, Houston, and Oregon, not as bad as Auburn...
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Compare the list of non Division One teams they each played. For each team they each played out of D-1, lower their standing by three places. For each team they played out of D-1 with a losing record, lower their standing by three more places. Chokelahoma had a poor ooc schedule, but Auburn's was disgraceful.
 
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