i disagree, leadership is an interesting thing. great organ-eye-zations have great leadership up and down, it wont be sr leadership it will be leadership amongst all groups and all players. leadership is not always done from the front screaming i am a leader. leadership at the back working with the weaker aspects, working at each function, each position each age group. all of these kids were leaders to some extent in hs and all need to step up and play. this is a rosey view but one i believe in. leadership is only as strong as the weakest link in the entire chain. you can have steel rings but if you have tin foil rings where will the chain break, or does it matter where it happens rather than if it happens...