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MLB General Discussion (Official Thread)

What the hell happened to baseball? These games all take 4 hours, each team uses 7 pitchers, it just doesn't do it for me.

200 fast food chicken sandwich commercials and manufactured drama. Time to watch another movie.

A brief history (give me some room here);
  • hitters got ahead in the early 2000's, mostly due to steroids
  • pitchers adjusted and took back over, mostly due to velocity and defensive shifts
  • hitters readjusted with launch angle (Ted Williams had preached it since the 1940's if anyone was listening)
  • pitchers(well teams actually) readjusted, by having an army of guys in the bullpen that can throw 100mph and get three outs before they give up a run a high percentage of the time
and that's where we, generally, are today

The commercial thing, well...we passed the point of no return between just enough commercials to get more games televised and too many goddamn commercials a long time ago imo. It isn't just baseball. The only games I can sit and watch the whole thing are Buckeye games and that's getting difficult to be honest. Kids don't watch the whole game at all. Sports/television/advertising business model is going to change. It isn't based on reality anymore.
 
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Los Angeles Dodgers All-Star Justin Turner likely out for rest of postseason with hamstring injury

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Dodgers manager Dave Roberts revealed in his postgame interview that the early indication is that Turner has a Grade 2 strain, which is defined as a partial tear of one or more hamstring muscles.

The Dodgers will be able to replace Turner on the roster for Game 5. Roberts said the choice will be an infielder, and he listed Zach McKinstry, Billy McKinney and Andy Burns as options.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id...urner-likely-rest-postseason-hamstring-injury

Just sayin': First it was Clayton Kershaw, then Max Muncy, and now losing Justin Turner is yet another big blow to the Dodgers.

You know options are slim when I'm actually pulling for the Braves.

Me too.

Actually for the World Series (as a Giants fan) I'd like to see Dusty Baker finally win one. San Francisco was his first managerial job (i.e. for 10 season), he came close in 2002 but no cigar:

 
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Ding, dong, the Dodgers are dead. Hallelujah.

That said, go Astros.

Yeah, go Astros!!!

World Series 2021 schedule for Braves vs. Astros

  • Game 1, Tuesday, Oct. 26: Braves at Astros, 8:09 p.m. ET – FOX
  • Game 2, Wednesday, Oct. 27: Braves at Astros, 8:09 p.m. ET – FOX
  • Game 3, Friday, Oct. 29: Astros at Braves, 8:09 p.m. ET – FOX
  • Game 4, Saturday, Oct. 30: Astros at Braves, 8:09 p.m. ET – FOX
  • Game 5, Sunday, Oct. 31: Astros at Braves, 8:09 p.m. ET – FOX*
  • Game 6, Tuesday, Nov. 2: Braves at Astros, 8:09 p.m. ET – FOX*
  • Game 7, Wednesday, Nov. 3: Braves at Astros, 8:09 p.m. ET – FOX*
  • *Games 5-7 if necessary
Ohio State takes on Indiana under the lights in Bloomington this upcoming weekend, the Buckeyes will return home for a 7:30 p.m. kickoff on ABC when they host Penn State on Oct. 30

Won't be watching the baseball game this Saturday.
 
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When Kelly tried to take Jack Morris out in G7
In a game for the ages, Twins skipper almost did the unthinkable

That was the end of the story. But it wasn’t Kirby Puckett’s favorite part. That had to be the scene that played out in the Twins' dugout before the bottom of the 9th, before Jack Morris went out and finished off his extra-inning, 1-0 shutout in Game 7 of the World Series:

When the Twins came off the field, Morris went to sit at one end of the dugout. He put his head down and began to towel off. Tom Kelly was at the other end. Kirby took a seat in the middle, which is where he was when he saw Kelly start to walk down the dugout in Morris’ direction.

Kirby wasn’t sure if Kelly would ever have thought about taking Morris out of this game after the way he’d pitched. Kirby just assumed Tom was going down there to see how Morris was feeling after the 100-plus pitches he’d already thrown, on his way to 126 in total.

“But knowing Jack,” Kirby said, “all I could think of was that this had a chance to be great.”

In Kirby’s telling, Morris still had his head down, towel over his head, before Kelly ever got to him.

“I still don’t know how he even knew Tom was coming,” Kirby told me.

But he did. And when the Twins manager was about halfway to Morris, Black Jack picked up his head, turned toward him and said, “Don’t even freaking think about it.”

He didn’t exactly say freaking. So Kelly turned around, Morris went back out for the 10th and Larkin got his historic hit. Like another old song said: “Oh, what a night.”

Entire article: https://www.mlb.com/news/jack-morris-urged-twins-manager-to-finish-1991-world-series

 
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Dusty Baker is taking out his starters an inning or so too early. The Astros would have lost game 3 regardless, because they didn't score a run and were already down 1-0 when he pulled Garcia in the 4th with 2 outs & nobody on base. Yesterday he pulled Greinke after 4 innings & just 58 pitches, and subsequently lesser arms in the pen gave up 3 runs and they lost a game they were leading. Greinke is the exact type of pitcher who you want to log some innings in postseason starts - guys who throw strikes and know how to set up hitters. Baker pulling Greinke early cost the Astros the game yesterday. Maybe the series. I'm actually not mad about it, I got no love for the Astros, don't mind seeing them lose at all. But pulling your starter in the 4th or after 4 innings is stupid unless you have the most dominant bullpen in the history of baseball, which the Astros most certainly do not.
 
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The other thing to keep in mind is using relievers over and over in a 7-game series wears them out by the end, if in fact the series does go the distance. I think, in general, relievers aren't going to be nearly as effective when they are pitching the 3rd time in 4 days. Sometimes it's better to let a starter work deeper and basically concede the L to save the good arms in pen for the rest of the series, like Braves did in Game 2. They had all of their top relievers well-rested and ready for Game 3 and 4. Resulting in only two runs given up in two full games, both by the 4th inning.
 
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MLB pitchers could bat for final time

There’s a good chance Major League Baseball will bring the designated hitter to the National League next year — likely forever. That means Sunday night's game at Truist Park might mark the final time a pitcher ever appears in a big league batting order.

No more Madison Bumgarner swinging for the fences. No more Bartolo Colon flailing and losing his helmet — or shocking everyone by going deep. No more Greinke grounding a single up the middle, as he did Saturday night in Game 4.

Say goodbye to double switches. Sacrifice bunts would shrivel up and automatic intentional walks to face the pitcher would vanish, too. So would the risk of a $20 million ace pulling his hamstring while running the bases.

Plus, the little nuances that would disappear: the bat boy running out a warmup jacket to the pitcher at first base, the on-deck hitter lingering near the batter's box to give his hurler more time to walk back to the dugout

More than a century of strategy and baseball fabric, ripped away.

“Once it ever changes to no DH, then it will probably never change back, and that’s something that would sadden me,” Astros manager Dusty Baker said.

Good riddance, says Houston shortstop Carlos Correa.

“To me, that’s not real baseball,” he said Saturday. “I want to see real hitters out there.”

Sure, a few pitchers might get an at-bat here and there, maybe in extra innings when teams run out of position players.

So who knows, maybe the Hall of Fame will get the bat Framber Valdez uses when he starts Game 5 for Houston. The Braves plan a bullpen game, so it's possible none of their pitchers will hit.

Entire article: https://sports.yahoo.com/swing-then...source=spotim&utm_medium=spotim_recirculation
 
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