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bullsfan75
Junior
He's a good man but he really can't coach. I was watching the Fiesta Bowl not long ago and was blown away by the poor play-calling on offense. His re-signing is very bad news for the Cryami faithful.
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Golferdow01
East-Coast Living
Definitely...you try gettin' those florida kids to be humble...easier said than done...just look at how many of them turn out when they go to the NFL alsogbearbuck said:
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Its not a coincidence that none of them have incidents while at Miami, and then once they are outside of the Miami bubble they get in major trouble. But yes, there are bad apples anywhere in america.Golferdow01 said:
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Golferdow01
East-Coast Living
Yes they come from all over I totally agree. I meant it moreso as a shot to Miami U not the whole state of florida so please dont take it personally...I had just listened to eSPIN radio the other day and they were talking about tOSU Luckeyes and how they robbed Miami of its national championship and it conjured some anger I had after that game and all the whining the Miami U lovers did...consider this my edit to the previous post and fuck ESPN!G8erBait said:
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[FONT=Verdana,Arial, Helvetica]JOSEPH: Firings should keep Coker off hot seat - for now[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial, Helvetica] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Published January 3, 2006[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana,Arial, Helvetica][FONT=Verdana,Arial, Helvetica] Don Soldinger never held anything back while serving the University of Miami.
You might not have liked what you heard, but the Hurricanes' assistant coach was always a straight shooter and you knew where you stood. That didn't change on Bloody Monday.
After being told in the morning by coach Larry Coker he was one of four assistants being fired, Soldinger asked Coker the same question anyone else would have -- why?
"He said he didn't want to get into specifics," Soldinger said Monday afternoon after fielding calls from a number of former students, including former running back Frank Gore. "The only thing is ... if I was handling the situation I guess I would have done things a little different. I worked with and for [Coker] a long time.
"Hey, he knows what he's doing. I guess I don't fit into his plans. I have a tremendous amount of respect for Larry Coker. I wish it was two ways. Maybe it is."
Perhaps Coker fired offensive assistants Soldinger, Art Kehoe and Dan Werner and linebackers coach Vernon Hargreaves to infuse the program with some spark. But there's reason to believe that Coker's chopping of heads was an attempt to save his own.
Call it self-preservation.
No matter how many ways you look at it, there's no way you can honestly believe the Hurricanes are better without Soldinger. The same could probably be said for Kehoe and Hargreaves.
Let's see, all Soldinger did during his years as an assistant at Miami was develop one of the country's strongest running games and backs Edgerrin James, Willis McGahee, Clinton Portis and Gore.
As for Hargreaves? Well, there were those first-round draft picks Jonathan Vilma and D.J. Williams as well as all-world Dan Morgan. And how is it that a guy like Kehoe can suddenly become incapable of coaching when he did the job for Howard Schnellenberger, Jimmy Johnson, Butch Davis and Dennis Erickson?
"It's the nature of the business, I guess," Soldinger said.
But there's something troubling about what occurred at UM. Soldinger and Kehoe were lifers; they would have given blood for the program, and they had a successful record. So doesn't it seem odd that the only time in more than two decades they haven't been able to develop talent is during Coker's regime?
Yes, part of the problem was Werner's offense. But Coker must take a bigger share of the responsibility. It's his teams that have lacked emotion the past two years, and it's Coker who has failed miserably in recruiting the kinds of players the Hurricanes program has been loaded with in the past.
But Coker's biggest crime Monday was copping out, not once but twice.
First, he owed his staff, every single one of them, an explanation Monday as to why they were being fired. His inability to provide one (at least to Soldinger) seemed to indicate there wasn't one.
But Coker spoke as if he was above the program, above criticism.
He said, "Our performance hasn't been up to our expectations." He also added, "This program deserves better."
But isn't Coker's job as head coach defined as being the one in charge to bring the program's performance up to expectations and to get better? Coker is driving the bus, not Soldinger or Kehoe or anyone else.
No question, Coker's job is in jeopardy. Anything less than an ACC championship next season and he'll be looking for work next winter.
Unfortunately, what Coker didn't understand Monday was his best shot to save his own head was with coaches like Soldinger and Kehoe by his side. [/FONT][/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana,Arial, Helvetica]JOSEPH: Firings should keep Coker off hot seat - for now[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial, Helvetica] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Published January 3, 2006[/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana,Arial, Helvetica][FONT=Verdana,Arial, Helvetica] Don Soldinger never held anything back while serving the University of Miami.
You might not have liked what you heard, but the Hurricanes' assistant coach was always a straight shooter and you knew where you stood. That didn't change on Bloody Monday.
After being told in the morning by coach Larry Coker he was one of four assistants being fired, Soldinger asked Coker the same question anyone else would have -- why?
"He said he didn't want to get into specifics," Soldinger said Monday afternoon after fielding calls from a number of former students, including former running back Frank Gore. "The only thing is ... if I was handling the situation I guess I would have done things a little different. I worked with and for [Coker] a long time.
"Hey, he knows what he's doing. I guess I don't fit into his plans. I have a tremendous amount of respect for Larry Coker. I wish it was two ways. Maybe it is."
Perhaps Coker fired offensive assistants Soldinger, Art Kehoe and Dan Werner and linebackers coach Vernon Hargreaves to infuse the program with some spark. But there's reason to believe that Coker's chopping of heads was an attempt to save his own.
Call it self-preservation.
No matter how many ways you look at it, there's no way you can honestly believe the Hurricanes are better without Soldinger. The same could probably be said for Kehoe and Hargreaves.
Let's see, all Soldinger did during his years as an assistant at Miami was develop one of the country's strongest running games and backs Edgerrin James, Willis McGahee, Clinton Portis and Gore.
As for Hargreaves? Well, there were those first-round draft picks Jonathan Vilma and D.J. Williams as well as all-world Dan Morgan. And how is it that a guy like Kehoe can suddenly become incapable of coaching when he did the job for Howard Schnellenberger, Jimmy Johnson, Butch Davis and Dennis Erickson?
"It's the nature of the business, I guess," Soldinger said.
But there's something troubling about what occurred at UM. Soldinger and Kehoe were lifers; they would have given blood for the program, and they had a successful record. So doesn't it seem odd that the only time in more than two decades they haven't been able to develop talent is during Coker's regime?
Yes, part of the problem was Werner's offense. But Coker must take a bigger share of the responsibility. It's his teams that have lacked emotion the past two years, and it's Coker who has failed miserably in recruiting the kinds of players the Hurricanes program has been loaded with in the past.
But Coker's biggest crime Monday was copping out, not once but twice.
First, he owed his staff, every single one of them, an explanation Monday as to why they were being fired. His inability to provide one (at least to Soldinger) seemed to indicate there wasn't one.
But Coker spoke as if he was above the program, above criticism.
He said, "Our performance hasn't been up to our expectations." He also added, "This program deserves better."
But isn't Coker's job as head coach defined as being the one in charge to bring the program's performance up to expectations and to get better? Coker is driving the bus, not Soldinger or Kehoe or anyone else.
No question, Coker's job is in jeopardy. Anything less than an ACC championship next season and he'll be looking for work next winter.
Unfortunately, what Coker didn't understand Monday was his best shot to save his own head was with coaches like Soldinger and Kehoe by his side. [/FONT][/FONT]
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Um let's see ...
Schmooze the boosters and keep the influx of cash coming ... CHECK
Smooch the AD's and President's butts ... CHECK
Recruit like a madman ... CHECK
Mail in a couple 10 win seasons ... CHECK
Talk about that one time a couple of seasons ago you actually beat all of your major rival(s) ... CHECK
When the shit hits the fan, fire all the assistants, which is pretty easy since you're an 'outsider' to the program anyway ... CHECK
Coker worked four years under Cooper at Tulsa, then rejoined the Cooper family tree for another two at Ohio State. Coker learned from the best, so is this really any surprise?
If anyone knew how to parlay losing either your last game of the season or your bowl game 75% of the time into a contract extension ... well, like I said, Coker learned from the best.
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ysubuck
Be water my friend.
I was stunned that they got rid of Kehoe. That guy has been there since Moses wore short pants.
I'm also surprised that he isn't more up front with the coaches about why they are being fired.
"Coach why was I fired?"
"I don't want to get into specifics."
Are you kidding me? That response tells me that he doesn't have a good reason for firing him. Ridiculous. I'm not sure I'm going to buy the "Larry Coker is a good guy" routine any longer.
I'm also surprised that he isn't more up front with the coaches about why they are being fired.
"Coach why was I fired?"
"I don't want to get into specifics."
Are you kidding me? That response tells me that he doesn't have a good reason for firing him. Ridiculous. I'm not sure I'm going to buy the "Larry Coker is a good guy" routine any longer.
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