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Miami, FL 23, Ga Tech 41 (Final)

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xcrunner;1332991; said:
I don't see a problem with it... The ACC teams aren't as bad as people think IMO. It's an incredibly even league. Lots of parity. I don't think there are definitely 25 teams better than the ACC's best... They've had some good wins. Duke vs Vandy was pretty impressive...Duke's 1-5 in the ACC... I'm going to be eager to watch the Georgia Tech-Georgia game. Georgia could definitely win big, but it could also be a very good game.. Same with FSU-Florida, although I'm more confident in Florida for that one (by a lot).

That being said they also have some very embarrassing losses. I think they're an inconsistent league. Some of that might have to do with the parity- when you're playing your heart out to win every week, it's hard to mantain consistency.
I guess we'll see soon enough.
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I sort of agree with you. I don't think the ACC is great by any means, but I think it's funny how in the Big 12, it's strength in conference, while in the ACC, it's mediocrity. Nobody really knows how good any of the teams are in either conference, but for whatever reason, the Big 12 is getting all of the love. I think that the Big 12 is probably getting too much credit and the ACC is getting too little credit. There always has to be a hero and a villain.

Basically, I'm looking forward to Bowl season to figure out the conferences. Deep down, I'm hoping both Big 12 teams get worked in their games, and the love-fest can end.
 
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Maryland is solid, not great.
Florida State is athletic but mediocre.
Wake isn't compensating for the conference's struggle this year. They lost to Navy.
Boston College looks solid to good.
Clemson is remarkably mediocre for their level of talent.
NC State is bad but occasionally shows up.
Georgia Tech looks solid to good, but there's no way to measure them beyond the ACC.
Miami is still inconsistent.
UNC is good but still yet to maintain top-20 play.
Va Tech is feisty but inconsistent.
Virginia is Virginia, meh.
Duke is less pathetic than normal, but still bad.

Which is the team that demands respect?

They've had some good wins. Duke vs Vandy was pretty impressive...Duke's 1-5 in the ACC.
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That's a pretty damning argument, if beating Vandy is your premiere win.
 
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It's strength in conference in the big 12 because you have Texas, Oklahoma, Texas Tech all in the top like 5. Not to mention Oky State not far behind them.

The ACC is NOT parity city. It's just a bunch of bad teams. They're what 0-8 now in BCS games? Something like that... Hell Boise, and Utah have atleast won games in the BCS games.

My dream would be to get to the Orange bowl and play Va Tech. They're the worst offensive football team i've seen this year so far. Not to mention I use to be from around there and they annoy the hell outta me (fan base, the school, everything).
 
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LitlBuck;1332433; said:
You are pretty confident with a score prediction but I don't see any bet from you and you are not even all-in on the Buckeyes:(
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I did bet and I left some money out on the Buckeyes so I could increase my bank prior to the game. I'll be all in come Saturday morning you can count on it.

BTW, I was correct with my reasoning and the winning side. GTech actually rolled them and I might not have expected it to be that bad though.
 
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jwinslow;1333082; said:
Maryland is solid, not great.
Florida State is athletic but mediocre.
Wake isn't compensating for the conference's struggle this year. They lost to Navy.
Boston College looks solid to good.
Clemson is remarkably mediocre for their level of talent.
NC State is bad but occasionally shows up.
Georgia Tech looks solid to good, but there's no way to measure them beyond the ACC.
Miami is still inconsistent.
UNC is good but still yet to maintain top-20 play.
Va Tech is feisty but inconsistent.
Virginia is Virginia, meh.
Duke is less pathetic than normal, but still bad.

Which is the team that demands respect?
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You're spot on except for Maryland. World-beatingly awesome (Cal, Wake) mixed with inexplicably shitty (MTSU, UVA) doesn't average out to solid, it averages out to weird.

Anyway, you're right, there's no one team that demands respect, but on the other hand, the conference has a good shot at having 10 bowl eligible teams and an outside chance at having all 12 teams eligible, which would have to be some kind of record. The best teams (whoever the hell they are because nobody can figure that out) aren't as good as the best teams in other conferences, but the ACC has more good teams than any conference. I'd take any ACC team (outside of NC State and Duke) against the middling teams of any conference - Kansas, Ole Miss, Minny, Iowa, Air Force, Arizona, etc. Ole Miss, Cal, and Nebraska already lost to ACC teams this year, and if you can figure out whether those ACC teams were the conference's best or not, more power to you.

I think what's going to happen is the ACC loses its major bowls (Orange, Gator, Peach, unless the Orange is against the Big East champ) and dominates the lesser ones.
 
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jwinslow;1333082; said:
Maryland is solid, not great.
Florida State is athletic but mediocre.
Wake isn't compensating for the conference's struggle this year. They lost to Navy.
Boston College looks solid to good.
Clemson is remarkably mediocre for their level of talent.
NC State is bad but occasionally shows up.
Georgia Tech looks solid to good, but there's no way to measure them beyond the ACC.
Miami is still inconsistent.
UNC is good but still yet to maintain top-20 play.
Va Tech is feisty but inconsistent.
Virginia is Virginia, meh.
Duke is less pathetic than normal, but still bad.

Which is the team that demands respect?

That's a pretty damning argument, if beating Vandy is your premiere win.
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No team demands "respect"... I wouldn't say being ranked 25 is a whole lot of respect. And the ACC doesn't have many good OOC wins at all, but they've got a few- enough to make me think that they're a little underrated.

And I do think Duke-Vandy is pretty impressive... Unless I'm mistaken, Duke is probably the ACC's worst team, and they beat Vandy, one of the SEC's top 8 or so teams. Does it show anything about the top of the conference? No, it just shows the parity. I agree with HTM (UGH- Am I really doing that?). I think their worst teams are better than anyone else's worst teams, and their best are worse than anyone else's best. But the result of that is that their best look a little bit worse than they actually are, because they keep losing to the bottom-dwellers of their league.

So the best look like they should be ~30-35, but they're actually ~25.
 
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ScriptOhio;1333609; said:
Re: (this week's BSC standings) Miami entered the BCS poll at No. 23, the first time in more than two years that the Hurricanes? who were atop the poll for 21 straight weeks in 2001-02 ? made the top 25.
BCS, AP football standings stay firm | Sports | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

Apparently the Hurricanes just can't handle sucess. :biggrin:
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Just to clarify the quoted part, Miami was #1 in the AP poll for 21 straight weeks in '01-'02. They were #1 in the BCS rankings for 4 straight weeks prior to a well-remembered Fiesta Bowl.
 
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