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Lou Holtz (Official Thread)

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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Jackie Sherrill - every program he leaves finds its way to probation amid NCAA violations. Sherrill is considered a crook (which he is)

Lou Holtz - every program he leaves finds its way to probation amid NCAA violations. Everyone still loves the guy.


Figure that one out.
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It's called charm and media presence. Holtz is always ready with the one-liner or the self-deprecating joke. The "..because he couldn't go for three" quote is sometimes attributed to him. He can charm you as he picks your pocket.

Sherrill? No chance, not the same.
 
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ND Chief,
I did, but I didn't really need to.

Derrick Watson was about as ineligible as they come coming out of high school, yet lo and behold he was able to get into South Carolina?!!??! (Yes, Tennessee was actively recruiting him as well.)

Notre Dame never had any problems until Lou Holtz became coach. He got out while the getting was still good. He left the next regime and the FANS with a huge mess. You really going to defend this guy?

Llightning rod, if you're looking for consistency from espin you may as well look for GW Bush to speak at a Planned Parenthood meeting. It ain't going to happen.
 
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Allowing two players to compete while ineligible, after they self-reported the violation, justifies the 'lack of institutional control' citation to me.
 
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However, the self-report failed to state that the student-athletes had competed in 2 contests while ineligible, and understated the amount and value of the tutoring. As a result, the student-athletes competed while ineligible in 2001 and 2002
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... which means Tress is now 4 - 0 in bowl competition, since SC will eventually be required to forfeit their 2001/02 Outback Bowl victory over OSU. :wink2:
 
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if there's anything to be eternally grateful for when it comes to hiring coaches, i will have to say that it's the fact that the AD (can't remember his name) wanted Lou to go through the interview process when looking for a successor to Woody... Lou wanted to be hired without going through that process, and like a spoiled child, stomped away from tOSU when he learned that he wasn't the 'only' choice... thank God...

Lou is a scumbag, pure and simple... has he ever left a program that DIDN'T end up on probation?
 
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Burk98 said:
You may want to check out who hired Lou Holtz recently. I heard on Mike & Mike this morning that he is working for ESPN this season.
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Perhaps that's why this thread's title is 'Does ESPN fire Holtz'.
 
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lvbuckeye said:
if there's anything to be eternally grateful for when it comes to hiring coaches, i will have to say that it's the fact that the AD (can't remember his name) wanted Lou to go through the interview process when looking for a successor to Woody... Lou wanted to be hired without going through that process, and like a spoiled child, stomped away from tOSU when he learned that he wasn't the 'only' choice... thank God...

Lou is a scumbag, pure and simple... has he ever left a program that DIDN'T end up on probation?
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Yes. There is one. Read your first paragraph and think about the year 1968. (yes, I know you were talking as HC, not just position coach)
 
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lvbuckeye said:
if there's anything to be eternally grateful for when it comes to hiring coaches, i will have to say that it's the fact that the AD (can't remember his name) wanted Lou to go through the interview process when looking for a successor to Woody... Lou wanted to be hired without going through that process, and like a spoiled child, stomped away from tOSU when he learned that he wasn't the 'only' choice... thank God...
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Hugh Hindman was the AD between 1977 and 1984, the period when Earle replaced Woody for the 1979 season.
 
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Grad,
I havent seen this anywhere else but I heard on a local radio station here in S.Carolina that the kicker that kicked the game winner against tOSU in the Outback was one of the main players involved. I guess that gives us some extra ammo :biggrin:
 
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No way ESPN fires him. They would lose their supply of ELFudges.




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That very well may be. My point about this whole thing is I want to see how espn reports on this.

Lou Holtz has had the NCAA on his heels after he left Arkansas, Minny, Notre Dame, and now South Carolina.

I've heard the argument that "It's Ohio State so people want to know about it. It's a big time program."

Well Lou Holtz is just about a household name in America. Hell, my wife even knows who he is.

So where's the coverage on espn? Nobody can tell me that espn didn't have an agenda against Ohio State over the last two years because this should have been their lead story on Sportscenter and they have not even mentioned it.
 
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ysubuck said:
That very well may be. My point about this whole thing is I want to see how espn reports on this.

Lou Holtz has had the NCAA on his heels after he left Arkansas, Minny, Notre Dame, and now South Carolina.

I've heard the argument that "It's Ohio State so people want to know about it. It's a big time program."

Well Lou Holtz is just about a household name in America. Hell, my wife even knows who he is.

So where's the coverage on espn? Nobody can tell me that espn didn't have an agenda against Ohio State over the last two years because this should have been their lead story on Sportscenter and they have not even mentioned it.
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In the interest of balanced commentary, I'd just like to point out that, to my knowledge, nobody has accused Lou Holtz of any NCAA violations while he was the head coach at William & Mary, whom he led to their only post-1950 bowl appearance in the 1970 Tangerine Bowl. :biggrin:
 
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