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When did we start kink shaming on this site? @Jaxbuck has a few "odd" fetishes but no reason to shame him...oh it's Wednesday, I mean her, for it.
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When did we start kink shaming on this site? @Jaxbuck has a few "odd" fetishes but no reason to shame him...oh it's Wednesday, I mean her, for it.
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Hawaii head football coach Todd Graham's son, freshman defensive back Michael Graham, entered the NCAA transfer portal Thursday, 247Sports learned. He becomes the 14th player from the program to enter the transfer portal amid reports of issues between players and the head coach.
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I can't wait until I'm on my deathbed someday and this talking point has started to subside mildly.
Griping that gives a non buckeye a million benefits of the doubt, despite being a kid with nearly constant off field drama and transferring 2-3 separate times, at the expense of the OSU coaching staff.
All the while they were on the precipice of losing a 5 star verbal commitment to a Texas flip, and a scholarship corner to a transfer. Both who then did go to Texas.
And if I were Texas, I'd tell the players I'm about to steal to tell OSU that they're leaving If they sign ricks.
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The OSU staff (Day) has taken, what appears to be, the opposite approach to the transfer portal as Saban has.
When the GOAT does it one way and the newbie does it the opposite, the newbie is going to be doubted.
The newbie may be proven right in the end but he's going to be doubted until then.
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The GOAT can dump NFL starters at halftime and win championships with the freshman backup. He can dismiss some of the best offensive minds in the sport right before the playoffs. None of those are prudent moves, and when Day doesn't do those things, he's lambasted for it.
The newbie can't possibly be proven right in the end, because the other guy is the goat. There's about a 1% chance of anyone looking back and thinking day made the right call, short of Ricks committing felonies in dramatic fashion. And even if that were to happen, no one will be devoting weeks to worshipping day's caution and trashing Sabans lack of wisdom.
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No one said anything is going to be fair. Day is essentially 1-1-1 in terms of good seasons, the 1 "win" was with an all time team he inherited from Meyer. There are obvious questions about the roster management, recruiting, development, the team taking the traditional tsun role of talk and bullshit before The Game, getting physically whipped more than once etc.
Day has made his own bed, he's going to catch heat and be second guessed to death now until he wins The Game next year and has a solid post season showing.
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It sounds like there are plenty of actual reasons to complain instead of constructing the exceptionally flimsy "day is a coward too scared to try the obviously right thing because the constantly transferring Ricks didn't get taken and then land at OSU" talking point.
The super fun part of this "rhetoric seeking any hypothetical blunder" approach is that Day could have lined up a 4 million dollar NIL deal at Nationwide and then when he landed at Bama because they're the greatest dynasty in history, the talking points would be largely intact, just sub out the specific nouns in the subtopic of why Day can't get it done.
All because of what happened in the snow. And if that didn't happen in the snow, but happened against Bama again, the self trolling would be just as loud. And lead to more Reds/Browns thread level self harm, the kind of which you would think that Day has been turning in pre snow Harbaugh results for years.
And sure, please tell me more about that 1 good year that Urban gifted to Day with Tate Martell and Matt Baldwin (and reducing one of the last two season performances to the rating of a draw)
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There are legit reasons to question Day and I never characterized it as cowardice. I simply make the obvious point that the "constantly transferring" Ricks wasn't seen as a big gamble by Saban. I question the chops of somebody doing the opposite of the guy who is the best. Time may prove Day right, it may not but at the moment he doesn't have the resume to go against the Saban grain and not be questioned.
If he had decided to go head to head for Ricks and lost him to Bama there would have been criticism and questions. Obviously. Are you suggesting he shouldn't be questioned for failing to get the job done?
What happened in the snow is a major part of his very short resume. There hasn't been anything else going on for years before it to help Day out. Again, is he supposed to be above reproach? Is the snow the excuse or just a point of reference?
The 2019 team was one of the greatest teams OSU has ever assembled. It was, in large part, made up of the all-time great 2017 recruiting class. The talent was inherited. What he was able to do with the offense and Fields is a credit to Day. I have never questioned his chops as an Offensive Coordinator but he isn't doing that job anymore. He has a new job and like anyone doing something new, you should take a "trust but verify" approach with them until they have proven themselves. There are red flags. All is not going so well to have blind faith in Day yet.
I would classify 2020 as a draw because the had one great win and one horrific loss. If some want to look at it as a pure success have at it but the humiliation against Bama did happen.
2021 has been an abject failure. Is there really any question on that?
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no, instead you combined an extremely online rumor about Day passing on Ricks because he was afraid to upset team chemistry, applied it to a completely fictitious strawman about this new transfer candidate, so you could rescratch those delicious self inflicted wounds, and make sure the scratch direction also covered the "where the defense hurt me" wounds.
They've been pursuing guys at multiple positions in the portal. I would have thought that you noticed, because it setup the stud can't recruit soapbox. It's almost like rumors and hyperbole about rumors aren't the most credible ways to find fault with your team's coach. It's a really fun way to poke fun at a rival's coach (Bill martin's boat, anyone?)
They didn't bring in the extremely volatile ricks. One guy, and yet it will be years before we stop self trolling about it.
the two programs aren't in remotely the same situation. One program didn't trade in their better than Alabama run of corners for a Purdue esque beater. They're finally on their way to fixing that but all of the fixes being freshmen or younger isn't the recipe for overtaking Bama.
because if the complaining is done first and then seeks out an outcome to fit it, like a freaking hypothetical about a northwestern defensive back, then just maybe we should look in the mirror and realize that outsiders need not bother signing up to troll OSU's soft spots, because we've got it covered ourselves.
it's a point of reference about one game that has too often been twisted into the only performance that truly counts (retroactively and in terms of projections), the exact same behavior seen across the interwebs by silent for a decade Michigan fans. The same fans who were so far past Jim's failures that they had largely just accepted they can't compete any longer with OSU.
and delivered the worst defense we will ever see, thanks to the last in a crazy long list of terrible coaching hires by urban.
You spent weeks speaking as though there were not merely red flags, but instead as though there were a tidal wave of blood that may never drain out of the woody. If you'd like to start speaking in nuance, instead of extremes like this thread, I'd welcome that.
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If you don't like my criticism of Day or the manner in which I deliver it then we're just going to disagree. You didn't like the way I went after Tressel either. It was warranted then and it's warranted now.
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It's pleasurable for you, but not remotely warranted, which is why they signed Trayanum. it's why they are talking to McCallister. It's why they chased Frasier (but have a different roadblock there).
It's almost like they were different situations, and we should stop extrapolating alleged claims about one baggage filled transfer to every other situation imaginable.
They just ran most of a season without a single deep safety they could lean on, and their best hope of fixing that is a guy with a massive rehab and a wildly young high schooler, but sure, they will protect chemistry at all costs if this guy wants in. C'mon.
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You don't think criticism of Day in general or around Ricks is warranted at all? Everything is going so well you have no questions, no doubts, no concerns and don't think anyone else having them is remotely warranted?
C'mon indeed.
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Pretty sure I typed this
It was the very first sentence. Just because I'm calling out your hyperbole does not suggest I support the opposite extreme.
Can you explain what you think Day's approach to the portal is? Rather than speaking in sarcasm as though they won't pursue these guys (particularly if you don't actually believe that fully and are just making self deprecating humor)
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