Lane Kiffin (HC LSU)

[BuckeyeNation27]

he gets a lot more hate than he should in this department.

other than his Tennessee exit, he's never made a move that other coaches wouldn't have made while trying to climb the ladder.

He got a HC job in the NFL when he was too young, still very immature, and obviously not ready....that ended in a firing.
then the Tennessee Fiasco.
USC was a tough spot. on probation with scholarship reductions, so not nearly as successful as they'd hoped...fired.

but look at his career path since then....

OC at a Power 5 school (3 seasons)
Head Coach of a Group of 5 School (3 Seasons)
Head Coach of a Power 5 School below the top tier (6 Seasons)
Head Coach at a destination type job.


people bash him for "burning bridges" and "lack of loyalty"

but nobody says shit about Deboer
whose path looks like ...

OC at Power 5 school (1 season)
Head Coach at Group of 5 school (3 seasons)
Head Coach at a Power 5 school (2 seasons)
Head Coach at a Destination type job

maybe it's about more than job jumping. maybe being a twatbag has a lot to do with it.

 

[Tomateaux Quinoa Gumbeaux]

e got a HC job in the NFL when he was too young, still very immature, and obviously not ready....that ended in a firing.

He also had to work for Al Davis.

 

[Nutriaitch]

maybe it's about more than job jumping. maybe being a twatbag has a lot to do with it.

also not an uncommon trait among head coaches.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

also not an uncommon trait among head coaches.

thank god we haven't had one of those

 

[Nutriaitch]

thank god we haven't had one of those

yeah you did, you just overlook it when he's wearing your colors.

I mean Urban Meyer was a complete shitbag at every other stop in his career, so odds are, he was while in Columbus too.


edit to add:
I'm not judging, I've just accepted long ago that college football is a sleazy business and coaches for the most part tend to fit the sleazy mold quite well.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

yeah you did, you just overlook it when he's wearing your colors.

I mean Urban Meyer was a complete shitbag at every other stop in his career, so odds are, he was while in Columbus too.


edit to add:
I'm not judging, I've just accepted long ago that college football is a sleazy business and coaches for the most part tend to fit the sleazy mold quite well.

Sarcasm

 

[Tomateaux Quinoa Gumbeaux]

yeah you did, you just overlook it when he's wearing your colors.

I mean Urban Meyer was a complete shitbag

Urban went 83-9 (54-4) won a natty, 3 B1G titles, won the B1G East 7 times and never lost to TTUN and was still soft-fired/asked to resign. I don't think many buckeyes overlooked it after it was said and done.

 

[calibuck]

Kiffin could fall head-first into a mud puddle and come up sparkly clean. The above analyses proves so. Someone somewhere is willing to give Joey Freshwater a new gig. Might note (from above as well), it seems he always falls uphill. Maybe I (we) are jealous. I always got dirty, and darn sure didn't fall uphill, when I tumbled. In any case, bear him no ill-will, and hope to see him in a CFP game or three.

 

[Tomateaux Quinoa Gumbeaux]

Kiffin could fall head-first into a mud puddle and come up sparkly clean.

I don’t fully agree.

I do think that he’s been given a lot more leeway than most, in that regard you’re spot on. Particularly early in his career when he went from the NFL to the SEC to USC.

But he got left on the tarmac at USC, a verb for being fired immediately was created because of what Haden did to him. He did not emerge from that whole incident “sparkly clean” imo.

Then he became an OC, did well at that position (helping bama win the conference 3x and a national title once while completely updating Saban’s offensive philosophy), coached at FAU (where he was successful), and then he had success at Ole Miss given their history and expectations.

He did not “fail upwards” from Bama onwards (though he did not leave graciously at any of those stops besides FAU), but he moved up the ladder through on field success despite some (alleged) off field shenanigans that only seemed to come out from Tuscaloser and Oxfart after he left those Hell holes. Maybe those accusations are true but the fans were willing to overlook them because he was producing results on the field.

None of that guarantees that he will succeed in BR. And I wouldn’t be surprised that if he does fail here someone else will give him an opportunity because as you mentioned people just seem to keep giving him chances throughout his career, whether warranted or not.

 

[Tomateaux Quinoa Gumbeaux]