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Kevin Sumlin (OC Maryland Terrapins)

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Nutriaitch said:
i’m just now reading this, so sorry so late to the party.

I don’t normally get into political discussion, but this issue has always bothered me.

i think the region as a whole gets a bad rap for this.

are there parts of the south that is really racist? yes. absolutely. and i have personally seen/heard some disturbing shit in my travels around the south.

but for the most part, it’s not nearly as prevalent or as big of an issue as some want to point out.

for example, the Confederate Statues in New Orleans.
the white folks who were upset (for the most part), weren’t upset because the statues were removed.
they were pissed because that city has MUCH bigger issues that need fixing than statues. Yet the mayor made those statues his major point of focus.

but the media paints it as racist white folks demanding their Confedrrate heroes stay up.

when in reality, we don’t actually give that much thought to the men depicted by those statues. they’re just iconic looking statues that have been standing in same place for generations. Some of them were very picturesque.

but when they mayor attempts to tell us the way to solve the cities biggest problems (crime rates worse than anywhere else in America, shittiest schools in the country, a floundering economy, etc.) is by removing a fucking statue, people tend to not be happy about that sort of thing.

i mean are we seriously supposed to think that the reason the murder rate is so high is because there is a statue of Robert E Lee in the middle of Lee Circle?

are our schools complete crap because of the Andrew Jackson statue?

maybe the reason our economy is so dreadful is because we had a statue of Beauregard.
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All fair points, and I'm not going to argue. All of my "evidence" is from what I hear from co-workers who are from or lived for a time in Texas, Georgia, and Arkansas. It's a very small fraction of the population and I'm sure that their experiences weren't recorded in any fair scientific manner. It's all, "I saw this once", or "This happened when I was in town:". So I think you're right: it's probably not nearly as bad as it is sometimes portrayed in the media.

I barely remember what I was posting earlier. I assume it was about the racist note toward Kevin Sumlin? I think my point was that I believe it wasn't his first similar note, and it won't be his last (just my guesses). Just as I believe would be the case if he coached in Cleveland or Minneapolis or the North Pole. Maybe (probably) it was unfair to make it sound as if I thought he should just get used to it. No one should have to live with that.
 
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Nutriaitch said:
but when they mayor attempts to tell us the way to solve the cities biggest problems (crime rates worse than anywhere else in America, shittiest schools in the country, a floundering economy, etc.) is by removing a fucking statue, people tend to not be happy about that sort of thing.
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Ehh, all that stuff is somewhat connected. It's not coincidence that the people who voted for Jindal are all on 1 side of all those topics... and it's the failing side.
I don't know a lot about the Mayor of NOLA... don't really care... watching the "our confederate statues are history!!" crying from same people who claim to be Patriots is... amusing. They're traitors. Loser traitors. Loser traitors that fought specifically to keep their socioeconomic model of enslaving people. Sounds like snowflakes need their safe space for loser pos traitors.

Louisiana is actually a bit of an outlier in the rest of the South / Confederate ideology... and yet all those issues are still there.
LSU is bankrupt and your secondary public education is awful because Louisiana doesn't value education. That's a choice Louisianans have made for decades. The economy is crap because of Jindal's sycophant love-affair with the failure that is Laffer Curve. That's a choice Louisianans have made. Crime stems directly from failed economy, poor education, and no future for the bottom third - again, choices that Louisianans have made.
Southerners all over cry about Federal spending, but by far take the biggest payouts from the Fed - your welfare is funded by Midwest and NE Yanks.
We should build a wall on the Missouri Compromise Line, not the Rio Grande. Should've just let them secede and cut everyone off. Has worked brilliantly for Singapore - Malaysia. The industrialized State that values education and understands economics holds serve over their backwards neighbors. We could profit off the South's willingness to subjugate themselves to Oligarchs in ignorance and bad decisions instead of being dragged down by them.
 
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kujirakira said:
Ehh, all that stuff is somewhat connected. It's not coincidence that the people who voted for Jindal are all on 1 side of all those topics... and it's the failing side.
I don't know a lot about the Mayor of NOLA... don't really care... watching the "our confederate statues are history!!" crying from same people who claim to be Patriots is... amusing. They're traitors. Loser traitors. Loser traitors that fought specifically to keep their socioeconomic model of enslaving people. Sounds like snowflakes need their safe space for loser pos traitors.

Louisiana is actually a bit of an outlier in the rest of the South / Confederate ideology... and yet all those issues are still there.
LSU is bankrupt and your secondary public education is awful because Louisiana doesn't value education. That's a choice Louisianans have made for decades. The economy is crap because of Jindal's sycophant love-affair with the failure that is Laffer Curve. That's a choice Louisianans have made. Crime stems directly from failed economy, poor education, and no future for the bottom third - again, choices that Louisianans have made.
Southerners all over cry about Federal spending, but by far take the biggest payouts from the Fed - your welfare is funded by Midwest and NE Yanks.
We should build a wall on the Missouri Compromise Line, not the Rio Grande. Should've just let them secede and cut everyone off. Has worked brilliantly for Singapore - Malaysia. The industrialized State that values education and understands economics holds serve over their backwards neighbors. We could profit off the South's willingness to subjugate themselves to Oligarchs in ignorance and bad decisions instead of being dragged down by them.
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oh i’ve openly admitted that racism absolutely exists here.

as far as the statues, i was only upset by the Andrew Jackson one.

i mean the guy was an AMERICAN hero who died 20 years before the Civil War.
without him, we likely loose the Battle of New Orleans and as a result the War of 1812.
During this battle, he paid African Americans (and other non-whites) the same wages as he paid the white guys.

he also went on to be freaking President of the US.


our education system is absolute crap because of the way the state budget is (and has always been) set up.
higher education is on of the very few area that a governor can cut spending without approval from anyone else.

so when there is necessary budget cuts that he can’t get passed because everyone and their brother has pet projects the refuse to bend on, he falls back to just cutting higher ed.
 
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Nutriaitch said:
oh i’ve openly admitted that racism absolutely exists here.

as far as the statues, i was only upset by the Andrew Jackson one.

i mean the guy was an AMERICAN hero who died 20 years before the Civil War.
without him, we likely loose the Battle of New Orleans and as a result the War of 1812.
During this battle, he paid African Americans (and other non-whites) the same wages as he paid the white guys.

he also went on to be freaking President of the US.


our education system is absolute crap because of the way the state budget is (and has always been) set up.
higher education is on of the very few area that a governor can cut spending without approval from anyone else.

so when there is necessary budget cuts that he can’t get passed because everyone and their brother has pet projects the refuse to bend on, he falls back to just cutting higher ed.
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Far be it for a Yankee to come to the aid of a Rebel because I don’t really think you need my help... but I’ll chime in to say that it’s far from just Louisiana that has a fucked up education system due to the state government being a bunch of shitheads. I think that Illinois and all of our former Governors and other elected officials who are now behind bars are right there in the team picture. Our state was into our school district for something like $6M as of last summer. I don’t know what the current debt is, but it is fucking crippling... even good schools with high tax bases, let alone some of the shitty school districts.
 
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kujirakira said:
Ehh, all that stuff is somewhat connected. It's not coincidence that the people who voted for Jindal are all on 1 side of all those topics... and it's the failing side.
I don't know a lot about the Mayor of NOLA... don't really care... watching the "our confederate statues are history!!" crying from same people who claim to be Patriots is... amusing. They're traitors. Loser traitors. Loser traitors that fought specifically to keep their socioeconomic model of enslaving people. Sounds like snowflakes need their safe space for loser pos traitors.

Louisiana is actually a bit of an outlier in the rest of the South / Confederate ideology... and yet all those issues are still there.
LSU is bankrupt and your secondary public education is awful because Louisiana doesn't value education. That's a choice Louisianans have made for decades. The economy is crap because of Jindal's sycophant love-affair with the failure that is Laffer Curve. That's a choice Louisianans have made. Crime stems directly from failed economy, poor education, and no future for the bottom third - again, choices that Louisianans have made.
Southerners all over cry about Federal spending, but by far take the biggest payouts from the Fed - your welfare is funded by Midwest and NE Yanks.
We should build a wall on the Missouri Compromise Line, not the Rio Grande. Should've just let them secede and cut everyone off. Has worked brilliantly for Singapore - Malaysia. The industrialized State that values education and understands economics holds serve over their backwards neighbors. We could profit off the South's willingness to subjugate themselves to Oligarchs in ignorance and bad decisions instead of being dragged down by them.
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History lessons lol... well done and I agree
 
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