Kentucky Wildcats (EABOD)

[CincyInterloper]

This country is built on people getting paid for work they don’t perform. What’s the NCAA trying to do, wreck the economy?

 

[BigWoof31]

What happens when we increase the violations.... to say.... illegal scouting and filming future opponents? And, let's say.... stay with me here.... let's say it's pretty obvious that the coaches knew it was going on?
I know we shouldn't compare one case with another, but if the NCAA does this to Kentucky, and let's a certain group of other cheaters skate, I might just poop in my neighbor's shoes. And I don't want to have to do that - I like my neighbor.

There is a pretty fair argument to be made that the NCAA should only exist to do two things:

1). Run any/all post season tournaments and determine sites, dates….etc

2). Act swiftly on competitive fairness issues. Kids are getting paid now - the only things that matter are if they are actively enrolled in a school, maintaining appropriate grades, And not cheating

 

[Bestbuck36]

There is a pretty fair argument to be made that the NCAA should only exist to do two things:

1). Run any/all post season tournaments and determine sites, dates….etc

2). Act swiftly on competitive fairness issues. Kids are getting paid now - the only things that matter are if they are actively enrolled in a school, maintaining appropriate grades, And not cheating

Pretty much covers it all

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

There is a pretty fair argument to be made that the NCAA should only exist to do two things:

1). Run any/all post season tournaments and determine sites, dates….etc

2). Act swiftly on competitive fairness issues. Kids are getting paid now - the only things that matter are if they are actively enrolled in a school, maintaining appropriate grades, And not cheating

Pretty much covers it all

Does it though?

It seems that his point about academic issues still means something. It doesn't mean as much as when the education was the ONLY way that the kids were being paid, but it is still part of the contract, and schools that violate that are in material breach of contract. This is why the most disappointed I've ever been in the NCAA (and yes, that's a mouthful) was when they slapped North Carolina on the wrist for blatant academic fraud. They weren't cheating their opponents (much); they were cheating their own students (a lot).

Since most of these kids are NOT destined for the NFL, denying them the education that is part of the contract should still start to be something that is enforced with the most dire consequences.

 

[Bestbuck36]

Does it though?

It seems that his point about academic issues still means something. It doesn't mean as much as when the education was the ONLY way that the kids were being paid, but it is still part of the contract, and schools that violate that are in material breach of contract. This is why the most disappointed I've ever been in the NCAA (and yes, that's a mouthful) was when they slapped North Carolina on the wrist for blatant academic fraud. They weren't cheating their opponents (much); they were cheating their own students (a lot).

Since most of these kids are NOT destined for the NFL, cheating them out of the education that is part of the contract should still start to be something that is enforced with the most dire consequences.

Cheating is cheating. Cheating in the classroom. Cheating the community. Cheating on the field of competition. Cheating by either players, coaches or administration. It's all cheating and we know who the ring leader is.

I rest my case judge.