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Wow..one game suspension. :shake:

PHILADELPHIA -- John Chaney's use of a "goon" is going to have a lasting effect on Saint Joseph's.

Hawks senior forward John Bryant could miss the rest of the season after an MRI on Thursday showed he had a broken right arm. Bryant was injured on a hard foul two days earlier by a Temple player who Chaney put in the game for the sole purpose of rough play and hard fouls.

Bryant will miss at least three to four weeks, the school said. The standard recovery time for the injury is eight to 10 weeks, but Bryant will pursue aggressive rehabilitation and be evaluated weekly by team doctors.

The Hawks (15-9, 12-1 Atlantic 10) clinched a share of their fifth straight conference title, but will likely have to win the conference tournament to earn an NCAA Tournament berth.

Bryant was knocked hard to the floor on a layup by Nehemiah Ingram and was sprawled on the court for several minutes in Tuesday's win over the Owls. Temple students spit at Bryant while he was on the floor and booed when he was helped up.

Chaney suspended himself Wednesday for one game and apologized for putting in a player to "send a message" to the Hawks. Chaney turned to the seldom-used 6-foot-8, 250-pound Ingram to even the score after he complained the referees were not calling what he thought were illegal screens by Saint Joseph's.

Ingram, who was called a "goon" by Chaney after the game, fouled out in 4 minutes. He has played in 14 games, averaging 0.4 points and 0.9 rebounds in 4 minutes per outing.

Bryant averaged 3.1 points and 2.7 rebounds in 23 games, with seven starts. He started 28 of 30 games last year when the Hawks reached No. 1 in the polls and advanced to the regional final of the NCAA Tournament.

"I grew up watching Chaney, I still admire him, but I don't really understand the situation fully," Bryant said Wednesday. "It was just weird."
tibor75 said:
Ingram...fouled out in 4 minutes.
I think that tells you something right there. I think the NCAA should suspend Chaney myself. Any coach who calls his own players "goons" and uses them for that purpose, should not be a basketball coach. Look into hockey Chaney.

I have always respected Chaney, but this is pretty stupid.
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My dad played college ball at one of the better NAIA schools. One time his freshman year a guy on the other team was on fire. My dad didn't play much at that point so his coach put him in telling him to, "Put that guy in the stands". My dad went in and gave the guy a forearm putting him two rows deep in the stands. He then helped the guy up like he didn't mean to do it so that he didn't get ejected. The guy didn't make another shot the rest of the game. My dad said that move earned him his scholly for the next season.
Personally if I'm trying to foul someone in my rec league I'm going to get my moneys worth out of it. Being a football player doesn't help. I drove a guy into the ground last week.
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Time for old Chaney to get shit-canned!

Problem is, Jesse Jackson will be on the first plane to Philly if they fire him.

He's had a great career but some of the stuff he has pulled borders on abuse.
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djtidebuck said:
This type tactic happens all the time. I am not taking up for Chaney, but he was alot more candid than most coaches when they use similar tactics.

Yep, if your going to talk shit about Chaney then you have to talk the same shit about Red Aurbach, Bill Russel and pretty much every other coach. The only difference is he talked about it, this shit has been going on forever and as he said, his only mistake was not teaching the guy how to give a hard foul.
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gregorylee said:
Yep, if your going to talk shit about Chaney then you have to talk the same shit about Red Aurbach, Bill Russel and pretty much every other coach. The only difference is he talked about it, this shit has been going on forever and as he said, his only mistake was not teaching the guy how to give a hard foul.

Yeah, injuring pro players is the same thing as injuring college players. :roll1:
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looks like the moron has to sit some more


PHILADELPHIA -- John Chaney was suspended for the rest of the regular season by Temple on Friday for ordering rough play by one of his players, who proceeded to foul out in 4 minutes against Saint Joseph's and broke an opponent's arm.
The Hall of Fame coach had suspended himself for one game Wednesday and apologized for his actions. He will miss Temple's home game against Massachusetts on Saturday and road games against Rhode Island and La Salle, before returning for the Atlantic 10 tournament.

Chaney, angered by what he thought were illegal screen by Saint Joseph's, put in seldom-used 6-foot-8, 250 pound Nehemiah Ingram against the Hawks on Tuesday to "send a message." Ingram fouled forward John Bryant hard, sending him sprawling to the ground and breaking his arm. Jones will likely miss the rest of the season.

Temple president David Adamany announced the suspension in a statement.

"I have advised coach Chaney of this decision and coach Chaney has again expressed his deepest regrets for his actions," Adamany said.

Chaney's only other suspension came in 1994, when Temple suspended him for one game after he threatened then-Massachusetts coach John Calipari during a postgame news conference.

The Hawks (15-9, 12-1 Atlantic 10) clinched a share of their fifth straight conference title, but will likely have to win the conference tournament to earn an NCAA Tournament berth
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Did Coach K use goons?

I didn't see the game, but I thought it was an interesting blurb in light of this Chaney mess

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[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Duke lineup was unclassy, underhanded[/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]By Jason Mazda
Senior Reporter
[/font] [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]February 24, 2005[/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]If you listen to some people, Duke Head Coach Mike Krzyzewski is one of the classiest people in sports. The man piles up wins at a school with high academic standards and has not overseen any major scandals – or at least none have been exposed. [/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Observant fans, meanwhile, know that if Coach K is an angel then swear words are much more acceptable in Heaven than we thought. [/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Feb. 20, however, marked a new low for Krzyzewski. When the Blue Devils welcomed a higher-ranked Wake Forest team to Cameron Indoor Stadium for the first time in years, Coach K decided to turn to a tactic that, while the national media found a way to praise it, was flat-out cheap and classless. [/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Krzyzewski started three walk-ons along with J.J. Redick and Shelden Williams against the Deacons. The crowd was initially confused when it was announced that former McDonald’s All-Americans Daniel Ewing, Sean Dockery, Shavlik Randolph and DeMarcus Nelson would all be coming off the bench in what was arguably the Blue Devils’ most important game of the year. However, Krzyzewski’s strategy soon became apparent. [/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Walk-ons Reggie Love, Patrick Johnson and Patrick Davidson picked up a total of eight fouls in a combined 21 minutes for the Blue Devils. Davidson, in particular, picked up two in just two minutes of play, as he spent his time in the spotlight harassing Deacon sophomore Chris Paul. [/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Krzyzewski’s excuse for the bizarre stunt was not even that he was trying to shake up the lineup after the team lost three of its last four games. [/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]“We started the team that should start, based on our two practices,” Krzyzewski said. [/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Right. That’s why Davidson didn’t set foot on the floor after the opening minutes and Johnson and Love played only a combined 19 minutes. [/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Wake Forest Head Coach Skip Prosser chose not to comment extensively on the ploy when asked about it in the postgame press conference. [/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]“Would it have irritated you?” Prosser asked, then paused for a few seconds. “You guys can make that call. You saw what was going on out there. I’m not going to comment on that.” [/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Paul, for his part, saw what Krzyzewski was doing and did his best to shrug it off. [/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]“It was obvious what they were trying to do,” Paul said. “One time I was trying to walk to the elbow and (Davidson) basically just grabbed me. He wanted me to smack him off of me so we would both get a double foul or something like that.” [/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Paul didn’t let Davidson get in his head, “Been there, done that,” he said after the game. However, the referees allowed Krzyzewski to get in their heads. Starting with the first foul called on Davidson, when Krzyzewski argued extensively for an offensive foul on Paul, the Duke coach was all over the zebras throughout the game with his usual profanity-laced protests. Eventually, it worked, as almost every call seemed to go Duke’s way in the second half. [/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The Deacs ended up with only one more foul than Duke in the game. However, subtracting the eight fouls by the walk-ons (as well as the one by Wake Forest senior walk-on Scott Feather in the game’s waning moments), the foul count was 27-19. [/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Senior Jamaal Levy, the Deacs’ best defender, played only 16 minutes due to foul trouble and fouled out with 9:11 remaining in the game. Junior Justin Gray, their leading scorer, played only 25 minutes and fouled out with 1:14 remaining. Trent Strickland, also fouled out while Paul and junior Eric Williams picked up a combined seven fouls. [/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Meanwhile, Krzyzewski’s usual starting five – Williams, Redick, Dockery, Randolph and Ewing – were whistled for only 10 fouls between them. [/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]How did they get away with it? Prosser was diplomatic as always, saying, “They do a great job of guarding hard without fouling. We have to learn to do a little better job of that. It seems like we foul more than they do and we try to guard as hard as they are.” [/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I can’t speak for Prosser, but I know many Deacon fans will agree that Duke does a better job of not getting called for fouls because of the working of the referees by Krzyzewski and his staff. [/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Regardless of the effectiveness of the ploy, it was a bush-league move by a coach who purports to be one of the greatest in NCAA history. While Davidson is only 6-feet tall and 190 lbs., he was a thug in this game. He was sent out there simply to defend Paul hard, knowing that he could afford to pick up fouls while Paul could not. [/font]

[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In true Deacon fashion, Paul took the high road and allowed Davidson to abuse him throughout those two minutes. And in true Duke fashion, Krzyzewski did whatever it took to win the game, classy or not. [/font]
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