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Jim Tressel (National Champion, ex-President, Youngstown State University, CFB HOF)

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True. And hopefully tsun will drop even further before bottoming out. (We can dream of 0-12, can't we?)

CalvinistBuck;1608576; said:
Occasionally there are knuckleheads who discount Coach Tressel's dominance of TSUN because the Weasels are currently down. But what few observers acknowledge is that Jim Tressel is the major reason that TSUN is down. JT's dominance of TSUN led their administration to abandon their longstanding coaching philosophy (incidentally, inspired by Woody Hayes) and take a gamble on a new direction. Tressel caused TSUN to roll the dice and they crapped out.

TSUN is way down because tOSU is way up. And that's the way it should be.

JT is the man.
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Buckeye86;1608577; said:
In my opinion (and I don't feel like looking up numbers to support this), JT also has had an enormous impact on the amount and caliber of talent that heads north from Ohio each year. When was the last time that Ohio State has lost a head to head recruiting battle with tsun?

Tsun has relied on Ohio to fuel their team for decades, and now JT is depriving them of their main source of good football players.

Tsun - Ohio talent = suck
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This is positively true. You have cited one of several reasons why tOSU is beating TSUN consistently.

My overall point is that JT's protracted dominance led TSUN led to gamble on a wholesale change and it backfired (so far). In other words, TSUN greatly sucks now because JT has embarrassed them.

The lesson is that Buckeyes should never minimize a win over TSUN. If TSUN has a grossly pathetic football team, then it is partly attributed to their reactionary response to repeated ass-whippings.

I love this.
 
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TheIronColonel;1608501; said:
Yeah, but you've got to ask yourself what this same Iowa coach has been doing for the past 3 years (hint: absolutely nothing). Ferentz is clearly a good coach, but his inconsistency is maddening.
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Inconsistency at QB + injuries= inconsistent results.
 
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jwinslow;1608640; said:
That's like UM "losing" the recruiting battle for Marcus Hall.
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Except Marcus Hall wasn't from Michigan. I get what you're saying and maybe you're right, but he was still an Ohio kid with an early offer from tOSU and someone the staff clearly wanted. You can't say, on the one hand, that a recruit's childhood love for Mighigan is irrelevant and cite Brandon Saine and Beanie, and then, on the other hand, discount that scUM landed an Ohio kid because that kid grew up a scUM fan. Maybe they did have an advantage with Turner, but they still beat us for him head-to-head. Besides, if a recruit grows up in Ohio, he's probably an Ohio State fan, and if he's not, there's a pretty good chance he's got Michigan connections.

After Turner, would you have to go to Patrick Omameh? Wierd circumstances there, too, but he still picked scUM over tOSU. You could also go to Koger, but then you're dealing with the same circumstances that landed Turner in Ann Arbor.

But as I said, the larger point--that scUM can't recruit Ohio like they did pre-Tressel--is clearly spot on. Last year, in a class of 22, only three of the kids signed by scUM were Ohio kids, and of those three, only one, Turner, had an OSU offer. Gone are the days of Charles Woodson, a curse upon his house. And the further we get from the days of Charles Woodson, the harder it will be for scUM to land Ohio kids. We don't sign recruits today because of Jack Tatum so much as we sign kids because of Malcolm Jenkins. Charles Woodson is rapidly becoming Jack Tatum to the 17 and 18 year olds being recruited by major college programs these days.
 
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Jagdaddy;1608552; said:
COY awards tend to go to a coach who supposedly exceeded expectations for a so-so team rather than a coach who actually wins championships. For an extreme example, consider the NBA COY award.

Red Auerbach (who it's named after), Phil Jackson, and Gregg Popovich have coached 23 NBA championship teams . . . and collectively won 3 COY awards (one each). Pat Riley has coached 5 NBA championship teams and won 3 COY awards . . . but none of his COY awards were received for coaching an NBA championship team. It's like a participation ribbon as far as I'm concerned.
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In the pros I understand that, because (at least back in the day when the coach and GM were separate) the coach had to do what he could with what he had...hence a 50 win season by Golden State in 1984 was probably worth more than a 65 win season for Boston or the Lakers. But in college the coach is also responsible for recruiting, so he is both resposnible for personnel and product...totally. Shouldn't the championships count for more in that case?
 
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Bucklion;1608664; said:
But in college the coach is also responsible for recruiting, so he is both resposnible for personnel and product...totally. Shouldn't the championships count for more in that case?
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We all know that there is no place for logical thinking in college football with regards to end of the season honors/bowls.... See BCS, Tim Tebow still on Heisman list, etc. for more examples.
 
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Bucklion;1608664; said:
In the pros I understand that, because (at least back in the day when the coach and GM were separate) the coach had to do what he could with what he had...hence a 50 win season by Golden State in 1984 was probably worth more than a 65 win season for Boston or the Lakers. But in college the coach is also responsible for recruiting, so he is both resposnible for personnel and product...totally. Shouldn't the championships count for more in that case?
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Good point, although its obviously easier to recruit at some schools than others and I'd argue that the talent gap between the best and worst teams in pro sports (certainly the NFL although probably much less so for the NBA) is far less than between the best and worst college football programs in even the same BCS conference. I was really just making the point that the goofiness in COY awards extends far beyond college football and Coach Tressel's apparent dissing and that they're not worth much to me.
 
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Jagdaddy;1608711; said:
Good point, although its obviously easier to recruit at some schools than others and I'd argue that the talent gap between the best and worst teams in pro sports (certainly the NFL although probably much less so for the NBA) is far less than between the best and worst college football programs in even the same BCS conference. I was really just making the point that the goofiness in COY awards extends far beyond college football and Coach Tressel's apparent dissing and that they're not worth much to me.
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Oh I know, was just waxing poetic about how it should be, not how it is.
 
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Tressel moves up ladder
Wednesday, December 2, 2009

With Bobby Bowden stepping down at Florida State, Jim Tressel could enter the 2010 season second among active NCAA Division I coaches in career victories.

Tressel (228) is tied with Frank Beamer of Virginia Tech for third place behind Joe Paterno (393 wins).

"It simply means I have been blessed to be at two great places where you have a chance to succeed," said Tressel, who coached for 15 seasons at Youngstown State before taking the Ohio State job.
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Tressel moves up ladder | BuckeyeXtra
 
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Religion
Tressel?s game plan for sports and life includes God
Written by Chris Schmidbauer | | [email protected]

As the soft morning light turns to dawn in central Ohio, Jim Tressel is where he always is ? already at his desk preparing for a day?s work.

Tressel has been on quite an odyssey since his life dramatically changed almost a decade ago.

Despite all the hustle and bustle that follows The Ohio State University football coach, there is one thing that has not changed: Tressel still spends his early morning hours, reaching not for his Ohio State playbook but for God?s playbook.

?It is healthy to start your day by giving thanks for your blessings,? Tressel said. ?It?s important to start each day with the right things in the front of your mind. Sometimes we wake up with all of our problems and burdens already consuming us. The devotion works in kind of the way an air conditioner freshens a room. The thoughts and reflection time refreshes our minds.?

Tressel believes in the practice so strongly that he requires his players spend time in prayer and reflection every morning during the team?s annual preseason camp. Before the Buckeyes? thoughts even turn to the pigskin, Tressel, his staff and his team engage in this daily ritual.
Jim Tressel photographed Dec. 2 by Katie Schmidbauer

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Jim Tressel photographed Dec. 2 by Katie Schmidbauer

?Each morning, we ask our guys to reflect on one thing that they are thankful for. They can read, meditate or spend time in prayer. It is something that we are trying to be disciplined in doing to start our day. To me, the way you begin anything, whether it be a game or your day, is very important.?

The Buckeyes? daily reflection is just one example of the culture and attitude that Tressel and his staff have worked hard to instill in young men since he was hired as Ohio State?s head football coach prior to the 2001 season.

While success on the football field is very important to Tressel and his team, the ninth-year head coach reminds his players that football is just one part of the experience.

?This is a very important time in our players? lives. I feel it just as important to help these players grow totally as a person, as well as a football player. It?s neat to watch that journey they go through and watch our young men grow.?
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Tressel’s game plan for sports and life includes God | Toledo Newspaper
 
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