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Jim Bollman (Stay calm and run Dave)

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osugrad21;784441; said:
Sure did...we all did. Isn't that the point?

None of us really had a grasp on the zone schemes back then...
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Gotcha. Well, I guess that means our coaches were several years ahead of those boys up north, who seemingly just discovered the zone blocking schemes last season. Just one more reason why potential line recruits should come here and not there.
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Helpinghand said:
Guys, it's not really zone blocking under Bollman.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/columns/davie/1440703.html

He has the O-L take a step opposite to the direction the are going to go, then come back into the direction needed. It gives the OL leverage both from a balance and a force perspective. This is a fairly common technique. It fails when the line does not all move at once and causes the RB to take extra steps comming to the line.
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ah the good old shade technique
 
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I'm surprised nobody revived this thread after our first two games this season. Wait a second, I did.

Same problems, different year in my opinion. We recruit excellent talent, but I watch much smaller schools have more success on the O-line than we do. This is incredibly frustrating. Bollman is highly regarded, but why? There is a clear cut difference between what Jim Heacock is doing on defense and what Jim Bollman is doing on offense, specifically the line. Luke Fickell and Jim Bollman, even there I don't see how Bollman is in the same league. He simply isn't preparing our offensive line for games and I haven't seen a lapse in their inability to block since this discussion first began almost four years ago.
 
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kn1f3party;925342; said:
I'm surprised nobody revived this thread after our first two games this season. Wait a second, I did.

Same problems, different year in my opinion. We recruit excellent talent, but I watch much smaller schools have more success on the O-line than we do. This is incredibly frustrating. Bollman is highly regarded, but why? There is a clear cut difference between what Jim Heacock is doing on defense and what Jim Bollman is doing on offense, specifically the line. Luke Fickell and Jim Bollman, even there I don't see how Bollman is in the same league. He simply isn't preparing our offensive line for games and I haven't seen a lapse in their inability to block since this discussion first began almost four years ago.
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great post and onething thats still stuck in my head was all the great words Bollman and the rest of the staff were saying about how great this o-line group is with depth and talent. They can give pass protection pretty well but, they can't run block forward. They lock up the line like there to weak or slow to knock the d-line back. They don't gain any space to help the runners.

The only thing that I can think of is they're saving there A game for washington. I can't wait to see the o-line giving Wells/Saine some open space and how that would open up Boeckman with his accurate passing and with the defense being that dominant. This kinda reminds me of 2002
 
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LordJeffBuck;782121; said:
It's kind of ironic that the OL prospects keep mentioning Coach Bollman as a huge plus in favor of Ohio State, while many fans wanted to run him out of Columbus a couple of years ago (as recently as the 2005 season, IIRC...).
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go to the scout site. those morons are calling for his head on multiple threads right now...
 
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I think its a bit harsh to call for JB's head. He is a good coach, you don't have the success this team has had without one. The only problem I see is not playing with a chip on thier shoulder. As a former O-lineman, I've seen the difference this can make. That's the thing I've noticed that isn't there this year so far, a nasty streak. If your QB gets sacked or running back gets stuffed in the backfield it then becomes a slap to your face and you have to take it personally. They have the technique and Bollman is very good on technique. The problem is, technique without attitude is a bit like a Ferrari without a gas peddle, you have everything to win the race but a way to really get going.
 
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A few years ago, Art Kehoe was being hailed as one of the best...then he was fired after a few decades at Miami.

Rick Trickett is known as a great one...I just watched Clemson light up the FSU front with very few blitzes.

I guess my point is that the best athletes are on the defensive side of the ball these days...the old days of drive blocking surge are for the most part over. Now we have spread em out zone blocking to counter the evolution of the D-line. What used to be gap control is now gap destruction. Get in your gap and blow everything up...penetration from the DL is no longer a mortal sin of defense.

I agree that the line has been subpar at times...but I'm not sure if we as fans are always using the correct assessment for the situation.

Dunno...just some random thoughts I guess.
 
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GoodLifeSean;925503; said:
I think its a bit harsh to call for JB's head. He is a good coach, you don't have the success this team has had without one. The only problem I see is not playing with a chip on thier shoulder. As a former O-lineman, I've seen the difference this can make. That's the thing I've noticed that isn't there this year so far, a nasty streak. If your QB gets sacked or running back gets stuffed in the backfield it then becomes a slap to your face and you have to take it personally. They have the technique and Bollman is very good on technique. The problem is, technique without attitude is a bit like a Ferrari without a gas peddle, you have everything to win the race but a way to really get going.
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Agree. The raw talent is there. The size, strength, and fundamental technique is there. The problem appears to be one of attitude and execution.

I'm sorry, but nobody should pin motivational problems on Bollman, particularly if it's an in-game issue, as he's in the booth removed from the players on the sidelines. If Barton and Boone aren't putting DEs on their asses after what Florida's DEs did to them in January, that's entirely on those two. Maybe Boeckman isn't comfortable yelling at his guys yet, and Cordle will definitely have his growing pains. If that's the case, it's Barton and Boone that need to start calling guys out and up the performance, and not just in the post-game press conference.

Our leaders on the O-Line need to lead.
 
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I think there's a disparity between the type of linemen we have and the type of blocking they're being assigned to do.

Our linemen average something like 350 pounds a man. We run a zone blocking scheme which relies on quickness and smarts.

Minnesota has been running the zone scheme with 'undersized' [i put it in quotes because they're not undersized for the type of offense they're running] linemen for years and they've put out amazing rushing numbers.

The linemen we have, I feel, are geared toward drive blocking - get your hands on his breastplate and push.

The pass pro is great, though. It's really just the running that has be confused.
 
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Oneshot;925619; said:
Our linemen average something like 350 pounds a man. We run a zone blocking scheme which relies on quickness and smarts.
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Boone; 6-8 313
Rehring; 6-8 345
Jim Cordle; 6-4 308
Ben Person; 6-4 321
Kirk Barton; 6-6 300

They average 6-6 and 317 pounds. Very tall, not fat, dumb and slow as you suggest.
 
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