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Jim Boeheim (HC Syracuse Orange)

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CFPBuckeye said:
Wrong. A man died for going in front of a high speed car on the highway. As a result of his driving would imply that he only died because of Boeheim, specifically, and not his own poor decisions.



If there were question to his abilities to drive? Yes. This could have been anyone driving and the result would be the same. Are you saying that if you are driving along on the highway and in a split second there is a pedestrian in front of your car that you are somehow at fault for hitting a person who doesn’t belong in the middle of the highway?
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I would say Boeheim has to be guilty of some kind of traffic offense, anyone who strikes a pedestrian should at minimum be guilty of a traffic crime, I don't care what the circumstances are. We dont know all the details, there are some conflicting reports, but I don't trust Boeheim one iota.
 
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DZ83CK said:
We do not have all the facts, but according to the NYT article the man was on the side of the road and Boeheim's speed hasn't been determined.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ny...ports/jim-boeheim-fatal-car-accident.amp.html
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Then perhaps Boeheim was at fault, in which case the law, civil and possibly criminal, will handle it as the facts warrant. Which has nothing whatsoever to do with your initial take that his license, or that of anyone else who kills someone, should be a potential target for revocation whether or not there was any fault.
 
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DZ83CK said:
I would say Boeheim has to be guilty of some kind of traffic offense, anyone who strikes a pedestrian should at minimum be guilty of a traffic crime, I don't care what the circumstances are. We dont know all the details, there are some conflicting reports, but I don't trust Boeheim one iota.
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You’re telling me that you’re driving through a neighborhood, alert, you see kids playing near the side of the road, you even slow down. Kid just *jumps!* right in front of your car. You get him and you’ve committed “some kind of traffic offense?” I’m sure you wouldn’t be going “that kid just jumped right in front of my car! I didn’t do anything! He literally saw me and jumped in front of my car!” I was going 10 mph to make sure I didn’t hit anyone and he jumped right in front of my car!” Boeheim was on the highway!
 
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I believe there generally is a law that states the pedestrian must be able to have been seen for at least a 500ft distance. If his abandoned car prevented this, Boeheim is clear... altho speed could come into play
 
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DZ83CK said:
I would say Boeheim has to be guilty of some kind of traffic offense, anyone who strikes a pedestrian should at minimum be guilty of a traffic crime, I don't care what the circumstances are. We dont know all the details, there are some conflicting reports, but I don't trust Boeheim one iota.
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It's like you can't just let go of your original ridiculous take and want to double down until people start agreeing with you....
 
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CFPBuckeye said:
You’re telling me that you’re driving through a neighborhood, alert, you see kids playing near the side of the road, you even slow down. Kid just *jumps!* right in front of your car. You get him and you’ve committed “some kind of traffic offense?” I’m sure you wouldn’t be going “that kid just jumped right in front of my car! I didn’t do anything! He literally saw me and jumped in front of my car!” I was going 10 mph to make sure I didn’t hit anyone and he jumped right in front of my car!” Boeheim was on the highway!
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Yeah, I would say anything short of the kid actually jumping on your car should be your fault.
 
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DZ83CK said:
Yeah, I would say anything short of the kid actually jumping on your car should be your fault.
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So now you’re on the freeway driving along and *boom!* person! You’re at fault? At night? Going 65-75 mph? Even if he saw the person last second, what do you do? Swerve? Slam on the brakes? Causing a mass car pile up with passengers riding along seems appropriate.
 
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As an aside, I'm terrified of killing someone with my car these days. Here in Denver, between legal weed, personal mobile devices, a plethora of street people who are often in one state of impairment or another, and a society that is generally primed for angry impulsive behavior, I see crazy crap that could get people killed damn near every day. In the last two weeks or so alone, I've encountered three cars going the wrong way down one way streets, came semi-close to rear-ending a bicyclist who was riding on a main arterial at night with absolutely nothing reflective on him (a random barely seen glint of something thankfully gave me minimal notice that someone might be there), and watched a guy this morning who thought a red light was taking too long to change just go right through it. That's not even counting the regular events of bicyclists (often wearing headphones) blowing through stop signs or traffic lights when crossing major arterials without even looking and pedestrians popping out from between parked cars to cross streets away from intersections (often in dark clothing at night). My commute is only three miles and is mainly through residential neighborhoods, and it feels like a game of Frogger more often than not.
 
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DZ83CK said:
We are in a sick world if hitting the car would have brought a worse punishment for Boeheim than hitting the pedestrian.
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You're on the highway, at night. You see a car in your way. You avoid it. It's simply what you do. The tragic fact that a person was there and unseen until it was too late, doesn't make the decision different. This is awful for all parties involved, but it doesn't seem like a crime. I feel for all involved.
 
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