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Jameis Winston (QB Browns)

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buckeyesin07 said:
Can someone explain to me how Pryor was essentially tossed out of college football and yet this guy will be suiting up against Syracuse in a few hours?
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Simple answer? Tattoos and memorabilia are an eligibility thing. It's why Gurley is sitting now...and kudos to UGA for handling it (unlike aggy). This is a legal thing. It's dumb, but that's the way it is. If the memorabilia stuff comes to the forefront, this could get interesting.
 
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scarletmike said:
Yep, I also find Megg's stronger stance on what happened now very curious. If he can be convinced to talk even more I'm betting some money/compensation changing hands/threats to keep things from getting out of hand initially will come to light. He knows things are going to unravel, and he doesn't want to be on the wrong side anymore.

EDIT: Hopefully this "impartial" person that ends up overseeing the hearing is truly impartial, but I have my doubts.
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All of megg's faux outrage goes in the shitter when you watch that press conference where he's back slapping and carrying on with the good ol boys while discussing the rape of a young girl.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
I'll believe it when I see it. That kid is untouchable and he knows it.
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I dunno. Who is the only school to beat an SEC team in the NCG? Which school is #1 in the nation right now while the SEC West winner is probably going to end the season with 2 losses? Which network is SECN?

When you have the answers to those three questions you will have solved the problem of getting three SEC teams into the playoffs against Notre Dame or Baylor.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Because Ohio State has integrity and proper priorities, and FSU doesn't. Simple as that.
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ORD_Buckeye said:
I understand the reasoning, but I still disagree. It's about an individual university's priorities, culture and the integrity of the people in charge. Let FSU and Auburn be FSU and Auburn; it speaks volumes about their worth as serious universities. Cooperation was still the right thing for us to do. We fucked up, dealt with it as best we could and took our punishment with dignity. I have no problem with that.

Let me put it this way, what lesson would you give to your children to follow when they screw up: follow the Ohio State model or the FSU model?
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This is why I am proud to root for the Buckeyes and be from Ohio in general. :banger:
 
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AuTX Buckeye said:
I agree but same with the NCAA argument, I'll believe the Feds will pull funding only when I see it...they have less balls than the NCAA if that's even possible
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I don't know, if they could trot out that "culture problem" with TBDBITL without even a single incident of actual sexual harassment... this is a freaking gold mine for some DoE lackey looking to make a name for themselves.

LovelandBuckeye said:
They will wait until baseball season and suspend him for three games. That will show him rape is no laughing matter.
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This, though I think their preferred end game is closer to the Gibbons fiasco -- wait til he's declared for the draft; then expel him. Which is, curiously, also under Title IX investigation.
www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/bigten/2014/02/25/college-football-michigan-wolverines-brendan-gibbons-rape-investigation/5810011/

lvbuckeye said:
Something doesn't add with with Willie Meggs' story. If what's he's now saying is true, then the officers at FSUPD and TPD, as well as those within the administration, that handled the incident are either accessories after the fact, or they committed obstruction of justice. He's saying this crap to cover his ass. He should have been screaming from the mountaintops a year ago.
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To be fair his comments while it was ongoing were less than glowing. He didn't have anything nice to say about TPD's handling of the case from what I remember and indicated they were, at the very least, incompetent on more than one occasion. I suspect he bit his tongue a bit given politics and such - but now with info coming out he can be a bit freer.
FWIW, he was already hated in Talahassee for successfully going after their athletes in the past and I seem to recall several FSU fans at the time claiming he's biased b/c he went to UF or something like that.

NFBuck said:
Simple answer? Tattoos and memorabilia are an eligibility thing. It's why Gurley is sitting now...and kudos to UGA for handling it (unlike aggy). This is a legal thing. It's dumb, but that's the way it is. If the memorabilia stuff comes to the forefront, this could get interesting.
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Didn't UF proactively suspend just recently?
And OU before the season?
Both in similar cases that at the time were unsubstantiated? The UF case in particular now seems questionable -- there's a lot of question marks there that never existed in this one.
For me, there was never any doubt that this case was thrown by local PD, however. And the Fox report just proves that beyond a shadow of a doubt. TPD knew Campus PD would tip off the Athletic Dept, et. al. They've been through this before, same AD guy running interference, and same lawyer (Jensen). TPD themselves failed to do any substantive investigating and it took them almost a year just to do DNA.
 
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I'm generally opposed to "proactively" suspending players on unsubstantiated allegations, particularly on a first strike. However, this fucktard is on strike 10...but that is also why they will do nothing until they are forced to...they've made their bed and they'll have to sleep in it for better or (likely) worse. How can you cut him loose after defending his sheer stupidity this long? I've thought that the only way it happens is if the university does but since they were getting witnesses lined up for scripts to read to the police, tampering with an investigation, yada yada...that is no longer a possibility.
 
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kujirakira said:
Didn't UF proactively suspend just recently?
And OU before the season?
Both in similar cases that at the time were unsubstantiated? The UF case in particular now seems questionable -- there's a lot of question marks there that never existed in this one.
For me, there was never any doubt that this case was thrown by local PD, however. And the Fox report just proves that beyond a shadow of a doubt. TPD knew Campus PD would tip off the Athletic Dept, et. al. They've been through this before, same AD guy running interference, and same lawyer (Jensen). TPD themselves failed to do any substantive investigating and it took them almost a year just to do DNA.
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Sure, I don't think UF is a "football above all else program" like FSU. I'm surprised OU did as well, but just goes to show you what is most important at FSU. That has been one of the dirtiest programs on the entire planet for 25+ years, and it's clear it wasn't just good ol' boy bobbah. They make some SEC teams look like bastions of integrity.
 
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Jameis Winston's best legal move may be to drop out of Florida State

As new reports by The New York Times and Fox Sports portray Florida State as impeding investigations into the alleged misconduct conduct of Jameis Winston and other football players, the school has reportedly informed Winston that he will face a disciplinary hearing into allegations that he raped a fellow Florida State student in December 2012.

To date, Winston has avoided any finding of fault. In December 2013, State Attorney Willie Meggs announced that Winston would not be criminally charged with sexual assault. While the statute of limitations on charging Winston will not expire until 2017, there is no indication at this time that law enforcement plans to re-open the case.

Florida State’s disciplinary hearing would examine whether Winston, who has not been charged by the school with any misconduct and who played for the Seminoles on Saturday against Syracuse, violated university code of conduct rules related to sexual conduct.

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According to ESPN.com, the disciplinary hearing into Winston would employ an unconventional method whereby three individuals who are not affiliated with Florida State but who have been picked by the university would be eligible to evaluate Winston. Winston and his accuser would each be able to strike one of the three. Typically at Florida State, code of conduct hearings occur after a student has been charged and a committee of students, faculty and staff serves as judges. Florida State has proposed this alternative arrangement in light of the university’s own involvement in the scandal.
Winston has five days to notify Florida State’s Office of Student Rights and Responsibilities to begin the disciplinary process. As I explain below, Winston and his attorneys may be privately considering a radical option: Winston dropping out of school. He could then sign with an agent and begin preparations for the 2015 NFL draft. Alternatively, Winston could petition a Florida judge for an injunction against Florida State.

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Jameis Winston's best legal move would be to stop Instagraming videos of himself reciting rap lyrics about raping women, and stop standing on tables and shouting obscenities about raping women.

Considering he hasn't grasped either one of those after two years, I think the suggestion of a preemptive and voluntary dropping out of school is a non-starter of an argument regarding possible good decisions he could make.
 
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