Ivy League

[ScriptOhio]

Ivy League sued over its no-scholarship policy

A pair of basketball players from Brown allege in a federal lawsuit that the Ivy League's policy of not offering athletic scholarships amounts to a price-fixing agreement that denies athletes proper financial aid and payment for their services.

www.espn.com

Athletes sue Ivy League over its no-scholarship policy​

A pair of basketball players from Brown allege in a federal lawsuit that the Ivy League's policy of not offering athletic scholarships amounts to a price-fixing agreement that denies athletes proper financial aid and payment for their services.

The lawsuit was filed Tuesday in U.S. District Court in Connecticut by attorneys representing Grace Kirk, a member of Brown's women's team, and Tamenang Choh, who played for the men's team from 2017 through 2022. They are seeking class-action status to represent all current and former athletes at the eight Ivy League schools dating back to those recruited since March 2019.

The suit argues Ivy League schools illegally conspired to limit financial aid and not compensate athletes for their services.

"In either case, regardless of whether considered as a restraint on the price of education, the value of financial aid, the price of athletic services, or the level of compensation to Ivy League athletes, the Ivy League Agreement is per se illegal," the lawsuit states.

Harvard, Yale, Brown, Princeton, Dartmouth, Cornell, Columbia and Penn don't offer merit scholarships of any kind, including athletic scholarships. The policy, which dates back to 1954, makes the Ivy League the only Division I athletic conference that prohibits member schools from offering athletic scholarships.

Ivy League executive director Robin Harris defended the policy in a statement responding to the legal action, noting there are a wide variety of options when it comes to opportunities available to college-level athletes.

"The Ivy League athletics model is built upon the foundational principle that student-athletes should be representative of the wider student body, including the opportunity to receive need-based financial aid," she said. "In turn, choosing and embracing that principle then provides each Ivy League student-athlete a journey that balances a world-class academic experience with the opportunity to compete in Division I athletics and ultimately paves a path for lifelong success."

But attorneys for the Brown athletes point out that other elite academic schools, such as Stanford and Duke, do offer athletic scholarships.

"These schools are not part of the Ivy League, but they demonstrate they can maintain stellar academic standards while competing for excellent athletes, and without agreed upon limits on price," the lawsuit said.

Just sayin': If they wanted an athletic scholarship then they should of went to a school that offers them.

 

[DZ83CK]

Ivy League sued over its no-scholarship policy

A pair of basketball players from Brown allege in a federal lawsuit that the Ivy League's policy of not offering athletic scholarships amounts to a price-fixing agreement that denies athletes proper financial aid and payment for their services.

www.espn.com

Athletes sue Ivy League over its no-scholarship policy​

A pair of basketball players from Brown allege in a federal lawsuit that the Ivy League's policy of not offering athletic scholarships amounts to a price-fixing agreement that denies athletes proper financial aid and payment for their services.

The lawsuit was filed Tuesday in U.S. District Court in Connecticut by attorneys representing Grace Kirk, a member of Brown's women's team, and Tamenang Choh, who played for the men's team from 2017 through 2022. They are seeking class-action status to represent all current and former athletes at the eight Ivy League schools dating back to those recruited since March 2019.

The suit argues Ivy League schools illegally conspired to limit financial aid and not compensate athletes for their services.

"In either case, regardless of whether considered as a restraint on the price of education, the value of financial aid, the price of athletic services, or the level of compensation to Ivy League athletes, the Ivy League Agreement is per se illegal," the lawsuit states.

Harvard, Yale, Brown, Princeton, Dartmouth, Cornell, Columbia and Penn don't offer merit scholarships of any kind, including athletic scholarships. The policy, which dates back to 1954, makes the Ivy League the only Division I athletic conference that prohibits member schools from offering athletic scholarships.

Ivy League executive director Robin Harris defended the policy in a statement responding to the legal action, noting there are a wide variety of options when it comes to opportunities available to college-level athletes.

"The Ivy League athletics model is built upon the foundational principle that student-athletes should be representative of the wider student body, including the opportunity to receive need-based financial aid," she said. "In turn, choosing and embracing that principle then provides each Ivy League student-athlete a journey that balances a world-class academic experience with the opportunity to compete in Division I athletics and ultimately paves a path for lifelong success."

But attorneys for the Brown athletes point out that other elite academic schools, such as Stanford and Duke, do offer athletic scholarships.

"These schools are not part of the Ivy League, but they demonstrate they can maintain stellar academic standards while competing for excellent athletes, and without agreed upon limits on price," the lawsuit said.

Just sayin': If they wanted an athletic scholarship then they should of went to a school that offers them.

Well if Brown & the other Ivies wanted their athletes to actually be representatives from the student body, they shouldn't recruit from the prep ranks at all & should just have campus tryouts before the season to form the team. But clearly that isn’t what happens. They want it both ways, recruit legitimate college basketball talent but don't give scholarships for it. Plus, I believe some of those schools are among the biggest in terms of endowment of any college, so it's not like they can't afford to give athletic scholarships. I don't have any sympathy for the Ivy universities.

 

[Thump]

Well if Brown & the other Ivies wanted their athletes to actually be representatives from the student body, they shouldn't recruit from the prep ranks at all & should just have campus tryouts before the season to form the team. But clearly that isn’t what happens. They want it both ways, recruit legitimate college basketball talent but don't give scholarships for it. Plus, I believe some of those schools are among the biggest in terms of endowment of any college, so it's not like they can't afford to give athletic scholarships. I don't have any sympathy for the Ivy universities.

This.

 

[Jake]

Well if Brown & the other Ivies wanted their athletes to actually be representatives from the student body, they shouldn't recruit from the prep ranks at all & should just have campus tryouts before the season to form the team. But clearly that isn’t what happens. They want it both ways, recruit legitimate college basketball talent but don't give scholarships for it. Plus, I believe some of those schools are among the biggest in terms of endowment of any college, so it's not like they can't afford to give athletic scholarships. I don't have any sympathy for the Ivy universities.

Yeah, they can definitely afford it. If they used their endowments for athletics they could be very competitive. But by the same token, no one is forcing athletes to go to the Ivy League. They're making a choice knowing there is no scholarship for it. Obviously, there were other reasons why they chose to play there anyway - that Ivy League diploma.

They chose the diploma, but now want something they knew they weren't getting when they chose to go there. It seems the universities aren't the only parties to this suit who want it both ways.

 

[buckeyeintn]

Yeah, they can definitely afford it. If they used their endowments for athletics they could be very competitive. But by the same token, no one is forcing athletes to go to the Ivy League. They're making a choice knowing there is no scholarship for it. Obviously, there were other reasons why they chose to play there anyway - that Ivy League diploma.

They chose the diploma, but now want something they knew they weren't getting when they chose to go there. It seems the universities aren't the only parties to this suit who want it both ways.

Really? I thought they had a constitutional right to an athletic scholarship. Sure seems to me like it should be an entitlement.

 

[DZ83CK]

Yeah, they can definitely afford it. If they used their endowments for athletics they could be very competitive. But by the same token, no one is forcing athletes to go to the Ivy League. They're making a choice knowing there is no scholarship for it. Obviously, there were other reasons why they chose to play there anyway - that Ivy League diploma.

They chose the diploma, but now want something they knew they weren't getting when they chose to go there. It seems the universities aren't the only parties to this suit who want it both ways.

True, but hard for me to not see this as kinda predatory on the part of the universities. A lot of times, in spite of graduating, people don't end up getting anywhere near the $ value in terms of enhanced earnings from that piece of paper as the college lead you to believe.

 

[3074326]

True, but hard for me to not see this as kinda predatory on the part of the universities.

No other way to look at it as far as I'm concerned. It is absolutely predatory. They're holding "status" over the student-athletes' heads, as if it makes up for a scholarship. That's some pyramid-scheme level manipulation.