Bo and Earle - The Men Behind the Games - The Ozone
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Earle Bruce and Bo Schembechler on The Game
By Tom Orr and John Porentas
Bo and Earle - The Men Behind the Games
Bo Schembechler and Earle Bruce spent nine years facing each other across the field as head coaches.
Their series was every bit as tight as the 10-Year War between Schembechler and Woody Hayes; Bruce beat Michigan five times, Schembechler beat Bruce’s Buckeyes four times.
But even at the height of their rivalry, both men said there was always a great respect for the guy on the other sideline.
“I like Earle, and I respect him,” Schembechler said. “I’ll tell you one thing about Earle Bruce: Ohio State never appreciated, in my judgement, the coaching ability of Earle Bruce. He was tough to beat. He was an excellent, excellent football coach.”
Bruce was similarly impressed with Schembechler.
“I would say great respect for his ability to coach, and he and I were friendly,” Bruce said.
“Bo was a graduate assistant when I was a player. Bo had a great personality. Bo is a smiling guy that is a tough coach, a demanding coach, intimidates the officials, does everything to win a football game, a helluva competitor, teaches football, makes them tough, makes them hit, did the best job of defending our best play.
“If we had a best play, he stopped that best play. We had to have a counter to the best play every time we went into that, whether it was a pass or this or that, inside play or outside play, but we had to have something that would (work) if he shut that down.
“We would always look to him to come blitzing at us to stop us. He’d give us a complete sell-out if he had to stop us and win.”
However, Bruce said the rivalry could get in the way at times.
“I think when you’re the coach at Ohio State and the coach at Michigan there’s a little standoffishness in the sense of as soon as that’s over, you can have a close relationship.
“But it’s one of competitors, one of knowing that both sides are going to try and win that football game. And if you’re recruiting against one another, you’re (an S.O.B) and I'm (an S.O.B), because it means if you get that football player you’ll win.
“Other than that, his teams were well-coached, he coached an ethical game of football, all within the rules, no steroids, no cheating, no anything. You could look for Michigan to be everything a team could be and then some.”
That mutual respect did not, however, mean that either man was happy to see the other on the opposing sideline. In truth, it was quite the opposite.
Schembechler said, “When you asked me who I was most glad to see leave Ohio State, I was most glad to see Earle Bruce leave. He was the toughest guy I was playing against since Woody left on any of these Big Ten teams. That son of a gun could coach.”
In a separate interview, Bruce was asked which person he was happiest to see leave the Michigan program.
He thought for a while before answering, “Actually, I would rather have seen Bo go than anybody, retire, not fired, because he’s the best.”
The men had much more than that mutual admiration in common. They both also experienced the rivalry first-hand as assistants under Woody Hayes. That experience helped shape the way they approached the game.
In Schembechler’s case, he learned all about the intensity of the rivalry in his first year as a graduate assistant.
“I graduated from Miami (of Ohio), and he was my coach,” Schembechler said.
“He went to Ohio State and I went with him as a GA. I’ll never forget after the (1951) Michigan game; Michigan beat us 7-0. We’re in his house on Sunday afternoon looking at the film, and he got so mad he threw the projector and everything. I’ll never forget (him saying), ‘I will not subject the people of Columbus to a team like that.’ He was mad.
“Of course, they wanted to get rid of him after that year. That was 1951, and by 1954 he had put together a system of football and a program that won the national title.”
Schembechler said he knew what the most important part of the Michigan coach’s job was, even before taking over the program.
“When I went to Michigan, in my first staff meeting, I kept two guys from the staff,” Schembechler said.
“I brought the rest of my staff from Miami (of Ohio, where he had coached) and none of them had ever coached in the Big Ten. But I knew the Big Ten, I had coached in it; I was with Ara (Parsegian) for two years at Northwestern, and a (graduate assistant) with Woody for a year, then coached with him for five years before I went to Miami.
“I told those guys, ‘keep one thing in mind: We’re not here to beat Indiana. We’re not here to beat Northwestern. We’re here to beat one and only one team: Woody Hayes and Ohio State. So we’re going to do something every day, maybe it’s just talk about them, but we’re going to do something every day to beat Ohio State.
“And we did that. But I lost to Michigan State that year,” he said.
That level of preparation and dedication to beating the Buckeyes carried on throughout Schembechler’s Michigan career.
“During that 10-year period, Ohio State and Michigan were so dominant that we could pretty much go through that Big Ten, and we did. We kind of wiped out those guys until it came down to the last game. Not always, but most of the time.”
The story was much the same down in Columbus for Bruce and his Buckeyes.
“When Coach Hayes was alive, and that was for every one except the last football game, he wouldn't let you forget it was Michigan week, he wouldn't let me forget that Michigan was coming up, at practice, in the spring, he taught me that.
“He taught me to practice on Mondays, he taught me that everything was Michigan because Michigan is The Game! Anyone that thinks Michigan isn't The Game can't coach at Ohio State, because it is THE game.”
For Bruce, beating Michigan was a daily obsession.
“You've got to think about beating Michigan. That's the salvation of the football coach. You either walk the alleys (if you lose), or walk Broad and High (if you win). You got it?”
Q & A With Tom Orr on The Game (Part 2) - The Ozone
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Q & A With Tom Orr on The Game
By The O-Zone
Tom (The OZone): What do you expect out of Hart on Saturday?
Brian (mgoblog):This is more of a question about the offensive line than Hart. Hart will pick his holes well, dodge more than his fair share of tacklers, and get run down by the Buckeye linebackers if they’re unblocked. Too often this year the four yards he makes from nothing have merely prevented a four yard loss.
I don’t think Hart’s game, which relies on brilliant field vision, shifty moves, and surprising after-contact power, matches up well against the Buckeye defense and their active linebackers, but I didn’t think it matched up well against Penn State, either, and he had a very solid day against one of the nation’s best run defenses (23 for 108 and 4 catches for 40 against the #8 run D). Michigan’s favorite play for him is the draw, which minimizes the offensive line’s inability to move opponents out of holes or pull effectively and lets Hart’s vision and cutting come to the forefront. This was even effective against the Penn State front seven, which appears to be nearly OSU’s equal.
That does provide some hope, but realistically it’s going to be a tough slog for Hart and a lot of second and long. Hart was largely shut down last year by the same team behind the same offensive line. I think he’ll do better but I would be ecstatic with a 25 carry performance that just squeaks over the 100 yard barrier. I don’t expect it.
Tom (The OZone): What the heck do you think is wrong with Henne, and which one (Good Henne/Bad Henne) are we going to see this week?
Brian (mgoblog):Unfortunately I don’t think there’s a Good Henne/Bad Henne dichotomy any longer. There’s just Henne. He’s been effective when the opposing DBs are forced to play off and he can screen his opponents to death or hit Avant on slants and crossing routes, but he’s been wildly inaccurate for much of the year and has trouble finding receivers on a regular basis. He’s made a large number of inexplicably bad decisions—see the end of the Penn State game for reference—has missed enough open receivers to cost the team at least one game, and has been consistently inconsistent.
He still has a gun for an arm and has the ability to rifle the ball like the second coming of John Elway, though. And he’s got the wide receiver screen down pat. Expect more of the same from him this week. He’ll alternate brilliant throws that will make his NFL draft highlight reel with balls that sail yards off target. Loeffler was reputed to have spent the bye week(s) breaking down and reconstructing his throwing motion and he did look much better against Indiana, but we’ll have to see whether that takes or not.
Tom (The OZone): Who's the one player on that offense who you can least afford to lose?
Brian (mgoblog):Can I pick two? I can’t choose between Avant and Hart. I’ll go with Avant because I expect the running game to be unrepentantly mediocre against the Buckeye defense no matter who’s getting the carries. Avant provides critical reliability for a unit that has had a vast shortage of that quality all year. He has the ability to turn Henne’s inaccurate bullets into impossible first downs and has underrated burst after receiving the ball. He’s a terrific player who does not get nearly the credit he deserves. If Henne wasn’t bound and determined to throw it three yards wide of him whenever he gets open on a corner route in the endzone, he’d have Braylonesque statistics, though without the flair.
He also blocks like a mother (this week he hilariously claimed to be a better blocker than receiver, in which case he should replace Matt Lentz at RG), which is critical for the profusion of wide receiver screens that we’ve run all year. I don’t think there’s a more underrated player in the league.
Tom (The OZone): Where do Avant/Breaston/Manningham rank on the list of receiving units in the Big Ten?
Brian (mgoblog):High up there, but that’s partially because only OSU and maybe Iowa have excellent corps this year. I’d place them behind OSU. I’ve discussed Avant. Breaston’s proven that he’s not a tremendous downfield threat since he treats balls thrown over his shoulder like punts but he still has that ability to change direction like those motorcycles from Tron. Manningham is like a Breaston who can burn you deep but he doesn’t really know the routes yet—an interception in the Iowa game was clearly his fault and his playing time has been sparing despite his obvious ability. Collectively their numbers are not impressive, but they’ve done all they can. Henne’s missed a large number of open wide receivers this year.
They’re good. They can run after the catch and they’re a major reason that Michigan’s managed to putter through its schedule despite Henne’s disappointing year, but without Braylon they are missing the long ball in a major way. Other than Manningham’s 30-ish yard touchdown against Penn State Michigan has not completed anything that can be classified as a bomb all year, and that’s largely on the wideouts. They have their strengths but that’s their major drawback.
Tom (The OZone): What's going to run through your head when Troy Smith drops back to pass, doesn't see anyone open and tucks it to run? Panic? Confidence?
Brian (mgoblog):Compared to last year I’m much more confident—faint praise perhaps—but it’ll depend heavily on down and distance. Michigan’s implemented a delayed blitz scheme that has Michigan dropping eight momentarily and keeping David Harris as a spy on a lot the second and third and mediums that a scrambling quarterback can convert. That scheme has worked well. In those instances I welcome a Smith scramble because Harris has done a great job tracking opponents down this year and nothing good comes out of a quarterback throwing against a three-man rush.
If Michigan is not in this spy alignment, however, Smith will find success and I will curse the illegitimately gained first downs he’ll get just by improvising. I expect this will happen with some frequency, but since our safeties tend to do things like prevent 50 yard runs this year I won’t be terrified of a backbreaking giant gain. At least, I won’t until it happens a couple times.
Tom (The OZone): How is Michigan going to defend Holmes/Ginn/Gonzalez?
Brian (mgoblog):They’ll lay back. Michigan’s had some aggressive play from the corners this year but this has usually been against teams with sketchy downfield passing games and receivers that don’t have warp drive. Expect an unholy ton of zone coverages with some man mixed in. They won’t be aggressive enough for my tastes but they’ll attempt to get to the quarterback with just their defensive line. That doesn’t seem like a bad bet with Woodley, Branch, Woods, and Watson going up against what seems like a bit of a patchwork unit (one that could not handle Tamba Hali at all, for instance). Even though Alex Boone was a heavily hyped recruit, he’s still a true freshman with a major player opposite him. Michigan will have to exploit that matchup.
Another reason for the zone: to keep Smith’s scrambling in check. Expect to see a ton of it.
Tom (The OZone): If you were a Michigan coach, how much would you play John Thompson instead of Chris Graham this week?
Brian (mgoblog):Thompson would play on every down that seems to be a clear running situation and every time the Buckeyes line up in a conventional I-formation. Graham has been a disappointment this year. He can’t fight off blocks and has frequently taken the wrong hole or sat passively, waiting for the play (and the blocker) to come to him. The Iowa game was an eye opener: Albert Young gashed the Michigan defense with Graham on the field but when Thompson came on in the second half his effectiveness was greatly reduced. Thompson still missed some tackles, but even on those plays the difference between the two was apparent. Thompson would slip past a blocker and barely miss making a nice play, while Graham would wave an arm trying to fend off a blocker he can’t handle.
When the Buckeyes spread the field I would expect redshirt freshman nickelback Morgan Trent to come on in place of the third linebacker anyway. Graham may not play much at all.
Tom (The OZone): Your thoughts on kicking to Ginn/Holmes?
Brian (mgoblog):The same as your thoughts on kicking to Breaston: don’t. I think Michigan will do a much better job preventing opportunities in the return game than they did last year. The key is the new punter/kickoff guy Ross Ryan. Most of Ryan’s kickoffs get five yards into the endzone and only about a quarter of his punts are returned. Those few that are returned are not returned far: Michigan has halved the average yardage it yields per return. I’d be surprised to see Ohio State get more than a couple cracks at returning anything.
There’s a tradeoff there in that Ryan’s punts are usually quite short—don’t expect any 50 yard boomers—but I’ll take it after what happened last year.
Tom (The OZone): Take the scenario I laid out in my answers: Michigan is down 2 points in the final seconds, the wind is swirling and Garret Rivas is lining up for a potentially game-winning 44-yard field goal. How are you feeling?
Brian (mgoblog):Couldn’t it be 34 yards on a calm day? Obviously I’m panicking, as that’s right on the edge of his range and this year he’s shown that Hayden Epstein knack for missing field goals at the wrong time. That’s 50-50, maybe 60-40 in favor of Michigan. Thus I’m feeling like God owes me for injuring Mike Hart and will guide the field goal home.
Tom (The OZone): Finally, let’s hear it—what do you see happening on Saturday?
Brian (mgoblog): I also don't have a read on this game. It's hard to tell which Ohio State offense is the real Ohio State offense. I don't know if Hart and Long are healthy. I don't know if Henne's going to hit the open receivers he finds, or if he'll have time to find them.
But let's try anyway. When Michigan is on offense, I think our guards are going to get their butts kicked on a regular basis. The running game is not going to work very well, so Michigan will look elsewhere for moderate yards on first down. Expect a lot of wide receiver screens and misdirection plays like Michigan started breaking out against Northwestern and Indiana. I think Michigan will try to get the ball in Breaston, Bass, and Manningham's hands on a regular basis and see what happens. I don't think they'll be able to drive the field more than once or twice, but I think Michigan will get enough plays from their collection of fast guys to score about 20 points.
Defensively, Michigan won't give up the monster plays they did a year ago but it will be at the expense of aggressiveness. Blitzing will be infrequent. Michigan will rely on the defensive line to pressure Smith into mistakes and will task David Harris with spying on him. Lamarr Woodley and Alan Branch will have to win their matchups against the Ohio State tackles to prevent Holmes and Ginn from running downfield unfettered. I think that's the key matchup in the entire game. They'll do well but not well enough to shut down the Buckeyes entirely.
I think this one is going to be a nailbiter every step of the way. Rivas kicks a 44-yard field goal at the buzzer to win. I guide it in with my mind as I discover that I have telekinetic powers. Michigan 23-21. I levitate home.
Q & A With Tom Orr on The Game - The Ozone
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Q & A With Tom Orr on The Game
By The-Ozone Staff
With kickoff of The Game less than 48 hours away, the OZone decided to get the enemy’s perspective on what to expect on Saturday.
Tom Orr exchanged e-mails with Brian from Mgoblog who has managed to overcome his clear educational shortcomings (kidding… kidding) to run one of the most popular independent Michigan sites on the internet.
The topics ranged from the season on the whole, to injuries, to predictions for the game.
As the representative of the home team, Brian got to ask the first questions.
Brian (mgoblog): You've watched every Michigan game this year. What were your personal expectations going into the season? Do you think Michigan has underachieved?
Tom (The OZone): Going into the year, I thought this was a pretty typical Michigan team—probably two losses somewhere along the line, but solid on both sides of the ball. I also thought that there was a chance (not a great chance, but a chance), given their schedule, that they could run the table.
OSU at home, Penn State at home, Notre Dame at home, Minnesota at home… that’s the recipe for a great year. The only glaring landmine was playing Iowa in Kinnick Stadium.
Remember, before the year the trip to Madison didn’t look particularly daunting to most people, myself included.
Going on the basis of my expectation of a two-loss season, I don’t really think it’s fair to say this team has underachieved. There are people every year who think teams are going to run the table, then get all ticked off when it doesn’t happen.
This team had some question marks, especially on defense, and I don’t think perfection is a fair standard to hold them to. That was a miscalculation by the prognosticators, not a bad season by the team.
The notion of underachieving is particularly unfair when you consider the injuries this team has suffered this year. It’s pretty remarkable when you think about it; for at least a stretch of a few games, and in some cases for the majority of the season, this team lost its star tailback (Mike Hart), arguably its best offensive lineman (Jake Long), another offensive lineman (Mike Kolodziej), its biggest offensive play-maker (Steve Breaston, who I’m convinced was about 75% all year), one of its promising wide receivers (Adrian Arrington), its best defensive lineman (LaMarr Woodley), and three safeties (Ryan Mundy, Willis Barringer, Brandent Englemon). That doesn’t even get into losing Lawrence Reid in the spring, getting about a half of a season out of Gabe Watson, and all the other dings, bangs and bumps to guys like Jeremy Van Alstyne, Chris Graham, etc.
Looking back, I think this team has been more crippled by injuries than any Michigan team since 1984. That team never really circled the wagons and finished 6-6. This team is going into the final weekend of the season with the entirely realistic possibility of playing in a BCS bowl game.
I think the idea that they’ve underachieved is probably more than a little misguided.
Brian (mgoblog): Obviously the offense has been a major disappointment. In my tape reviews I've singled out Henne and the interior offensive line as the major sources of the problems. Do you think that's accurate?
Tom (The OZone): I think the problems for this offense all start with that line, and again, some of that has to be chalked up to losing Long for most of the year (he still hasn’t played an entire game), and losing other guys for parts of the season.
When you’ve got a guy like Rueben Riley playing right tackle, you’re going to have problems running the ball and protecting the passer, and that’s what Michigan had to deal with for a bunch of weeks in the middle of the season. Riley’s probably not a bad fit in the middle of that line somewhere, but he just looked completely out-classed against some of the better defensive ends in the league.
I think to some degree, Matt Lentz has followed David Baas’ footsteps as a guy who was highly touted, but sometimes failed to live up to the hype. Kraus (at center) has been banged up and is still in his first year as a starter. Henige at the other guard position has been okay, but far from outstanding. Stenavich has been pretty good, but he’s only one guy.
Michigan’s line is an above-average Big Ten unit, but they’re not anywhere in the neighborhood of some of the dominant, road-grader lines they’ve had in the past. That makes it tougher to run the ball, which in turn makes it tougher to throw the ball.
It seems like whenever Hart gets a handoff, he either gets hit at the line or about a yard or two downfield. To his credit, he gets low and drives through guys and always falls forward, so you look at the stat sheet and he’s averaging 4.7 per rush. But he’s really earning those yards.
In the passing game, Henne’s not getting hammered by pass rushers, but it seems like he’s getting knocked down a little more this year than in the last couple seasons (I don’t know if the stats will bear that out—it’s just something that has occurred to me at times this fall).
Certainly, Henne has had his struggles. He looked dreadful against Notre Dame and dreadful again in Wisconsin. He’s clearly got some mechanical issues that they’ve supposedly been working through (arm angle, release point and stride length have all been mentioned this year), but I remain convinced that Hart’s absence has had at least something to do with Henne’s issues.
His worst games have come on days when Hart is not playing; you can chalk that up to some mental dependence on Hart or the fact that his absence allows defenses to focus more on the passing game, but I think there’s a definite link there.
I know you’re not a big believer in that “security blanket” theory, but we keep hearing how Hart is such a commanding presence in the huddle, and how guys look into his eyes and get inspired… blah, blah, blah. If there’s any truth at all to that, one would think that when he’s not there, there would be some negative effect from the loss of that presence/ those eyes… whatever.
Brian (mgoblog): Ohio State's defense has been almost entirely impregnable save for that strange 31 point outburst by Minnesota that featured 396 yards for Brian Friggin' Cupito. How the hell did that happen? Is there anything there that Michigan will be looking to exploit?
Tom (The OZone): The Minnesota game was sort of a weird confluence of circumstances that added up to an ugly performance.
For one, the defense was obviously keyed primarily toward stopping the run, leaving the corners out on islands on a lot of plays. Also, Minnesota’s receivers (especially Ernie Wheelwright) are tall, and can create matchup problems on jump-balls, even against a 6-foot-1 corner like Ashton Youboty. Add in the fact that Bryan Cupito played the game of his life and you have a recipe for an offensive explosion.
I haven’t watched that tape since the week of that game, but I remember one of the times Youboty got beat, he tried to jump a quick out, and the guy gave him double-move and got deep for a big play. On at least one of the deep balls, Cupito just shot-putted one up into pretty good coverage, and the Minnesota receiver came back and made a great play (that was the one that got them down to the 1 and set up a touchdown). It wasn’t like he was constantly missing tackles or getting toasted deep on every other play.
Of course, what set that up was Minnesota’s ability to run the ball. Maroney had a long run and put up 100 yards before the half. That forced the Buckeyes to dedicate more guys to stopping that run game and left them vulnerable deep.
Certainly, Michigan will be looking to do the same this week. If they can get Hart established early, that could set up some big plays in the passing game.
Michigan State did the same thing, running the ball decently early then using the eerily-accurate Drew Stanton to get it downfield. If Henne plays the way Stanton did in that first half, there’s no way to defend it.
You can throw on this defense, but you need to be able to run the ball a little, and your quarterback needs to be pretty accurate. Stanton carved this team up because he was hitting guys on the numbers all day and getting time to throw.
Last week another pretty good quarterback, Brett Basanez, had about three good minutes, then spent much of the rest of the day running for his life, throwing into tight coverage and piling up wildly unimpressive numbers.
The defense is not consistently terrible like Michigan State’s, but if you can do certain things well, you can attack them.
Brian (mgoblog): It seems like Ohio State's extremely thin at corner past Youboty. Tyler Everett's a converted safety and then you guys have who exactly?
Tom (The OZone): A true freshman named Malcolm Jenkins has been playing a lot this year. He didn’t play last week, and was shuffled down the depth chart this week, but if he can go, he’s a decent cover guy.
You’ll see Brandon Mitchell, who’s one of the backup safeties, on the field as the nickelback Saturday. There’s another true freshman, Jamario O’Neal, who has played on some passing downs this year.
Generally, I would guess that the defense is going to try to keep its strength (the linebackers) on the field as much as possible, even if it means playing a 4-3-4 consistently against a three-wide receiver set.
You might not see much of that cornerback depth unless someone gets hurt.
Brian (mgoblog): Michigan's running game has been good with Hart and mediocre without him, but this week they're clashing with an entirely different animal than your Northwesterns and Indianas. Assuming Hart is fully healthy, how do you think he'll do relative to last year (around 3 YPC for 60 yards and one 40 yard screen)?
Tom (The OZone): I’m not necessarily the person to ask, because I didn’t think Chris Perry was going to be able to run on the Buckeye defense two years ago. However, assuming Hart is 100% or close to it, I think he would be hard-pressed not to match or top last year’s numbers.
There is a significant question in my mind about just how rusty he’s going to be, and how healthy he is. I know he’s probably running in practice all week, but the holes he’s seeing on Wednesday are going to look a lot different from the size of the holes he’ll see Saturday (at least I sure hope they do). He’s still relatively young and has really never gotten himself into a groove at any point this season.
Still, he’s a good back. As I mentioned before, he’s going to fall forward for a few yards even if you hit him right in the hole. If this defense form-tackles all afternoon (they have shown that they know how, but occasionally forget), they could contain him, maybe even holding him to 75-100 yards.
If Hart gets more than 130 yards, Michigan almost certainly wins.
Brian (mgoblog): How can I put this diplomatically... how in the damn hell is Troy Smith the fourth most efficient passer in the nation? His statistics are somewhat mindboggling: 10 completions for 249 yards versus MSU, 114 for 226 versus Indiana, 14 for 233 against Minnesota, 13 for 298 against Illinois. How much of that is Smith, how much is it Ginn and Holmes, and how much is four crappy defenses?
Tom (The OZone): I’m going to have to give the Abe Simpson “a little from column A, a little from column B” routine, along with another couple columns thrown into the mix as well.
Column A: It’s almost certainly partly the fact that Smith has settled in as the full-time starting quarterback, getting all the reps and “not looking over your shoulder” confidence that comes with that lofty perch.
Column B: It doesn’t hurt that guys like Ginn and Holmes have repeatedly shown the ability to take a 10-yard out and turn it into a 60-yard touchdown pass.
Column C: Part of that is the fact that Indiana, Minnesota, Michigan State, Northwestern and Illinois are not exactly the ’85 Chicago Bears on the defensive side of the field. Especially in the MSU game, it was crappy tackling that helped Smith throw for eleventy billion yards on just a handful of short routes.
Column D: Antonio Pittman’s emergence (may be somewhat linked to column C, above), which has forced defenses to respect the fact that yes, Ohio State actually has a tailback who’s good at tackle football for the first time in three years.
Frankly, I don’t think that anyone can tell you what the exact mixture of these four elements is. There’s probably at least some of each factored in there.
And with all due respect to the fine folks they’ll face on Saturday, if the offense blows up for another orgy of points and yardage, I think there will still be some lingering questions from a few corners about just how good they really are. Unless they get a chance to face Miami or some other similarly stout defensive team in a bowl game, I think it may remain one of those great unanswered questions.
If they get shut down this weekend, we will have our answer. Of course, I won’t be too concerned about that, as I’ll be on top of the press box at Michigan Stadium trying to figure out if the impact with the ground will allow me the sweet, merciful release of death or just add extreme physical pain to the mental and emotion anguish that will already be coursing through my body.
Brian (mgoblog): How good is this offense in reality? It's hard to tell with the last five games against pushover defenses. (Granted, Michigan did not burn the field up against Minnesota.)
Tom (The OZone): Well… we know they’re damn good against shaky defenses. This (and the next question) all really have the same answer as the last one.
I like the fact that the offensive line is getting a good push. I like the fact that Troy Smith now looks like he’s taking time to at least get to the second receiver on his progressions before tucking and running with the ball. I like the fact that Pittman is suddenly blowing people up, running over guys, and running past others. I like the fact that the coaches seem to be making a real effort to get guys like the tight ends and backs involved in the passing game.
I think their consistency over the last month has been an indication that they’re at least a good offense. Are they great? I’d love to be arguing this point next week with another 40 point game on the list of evidence.
Brian (mgoblog): I have essentially the same question about Antonio Pittman: is he for real? He's ran wild of late--against those sketchy defenses--but Penn State and Texas clobbered him pretty good. How would you rate him in the Big Ten?
Tom (The OZone): He’s behind Maroney, for sure. He’s behind a healthy Michael Hart (remember him?) as well. Calhoun has been so good this year, but a lot of it came against dreadful defenses.
Beyond that? I have a hard time getting too scared about Albert Young, Tony Hunt, Jarod Void, Jason Teague, or any of the other guys in that next clump of “good but not great” backs.
Based on what we’ve seen out of Pittman over the last month or so, I think you could make a decent argument that he’s number three or four on the list, and maybe even a spot higher if you take Hart’s injuries into account.
Brian (mgoblog): How has the offensive line performed, especially true freshman Alex Boone? How do you think they'll hold up against the Michigan defensive line?
Tom (The OZone): Boone has been a pleasant surprise, at least to me. All the recruitniks had him pencilled in as a first-year starter, but given the incredibly unreliable nature of recruiting and recruiting coverage, I was a little leery of lumping him in as “the next Orlando Pace” rather than “the next Derek Morris.”
I don’t know how much you’re going to see Boone. He was really playing recently because the normal RT, Kirk Barton, was banged up. He was back last week in some spot duty. You’ll probably see some combination of the two on Saturday. That could help them stay fresh against LaMarr Woodley, which would make me happy.
The line on the whole has been pretty good this year—they’re opening holes and giving Smith time to throw. I don’t think they’re going to blow Michigan’s line off the ball by any stretch of the imagination, but I think they’re going to be able to move the ball on the ground at least somewhat reliably (4 ypc, maybe? Please?).
I know Alan Branch and Gabe Watson have looked great at times, but Woodley is the guy on Michigan’s d-line that just scares the crap out of you. I would assume that OSU will keep a back or TE in to help block, at least until they can figure out how reliably they’ll be able to contain him without the extra assistance.
Brian (mgoblog): Do you think Michigan has a better handle on mobile quarterbacks?
Tom (The OZone): Better? Sure, but that’s like saying France has a better handle on defending against Germany. “Better” doesn’t set the bar very high.
Troy Smith is not going to go off for 175 rushing yards or whatever he had last year, simply because I think Michigan is going to sell out to stop that from happening. There’s going to be at least one spy on him on every play.
Mobile quarterbacks have still given that defense some problems this year, especially when they’re able to roll out and throw.
The problem is not fixed, but it won’t be nearly as glaring an issue on Saturday. My guess is that Smith should finish with 50-60 yards rushing. If he gets more than that, the Wolverines could be in trouble.
Brian (mgoblog): How do you think Ohio State will attack the Michigan defense?
Tom (The OZone): Based on the fact that I think Michigan is going to sell itself out to stop Pittman and Smith from running the ball, the Buckeyes probably have to stretch the field a little bit early to keep those safeties from creeping up. If I was Jim Tressel, I would seriously consider running Ginn and Holmes on fly routes on opposite sides of the field, and sending Gonzalez on a 20-yard post on the first play of the game. Just send a message that you’d better not get any ideas about cramming eight or nine guys in the box. You need to keep taking those shots every now and then, when you see those safeties getting nosy. It doesn’t always need to be a bomb, but a 20-yard out or slant every drive or so would go a long way toward opening things up for the run game.
If they can get those guys to back out, then look for a steady diet of runs up the gut (if they can get Watson out of the way), possibly off that fake end-around to Ginn, and plenty of those little speed option plays they’ve been running.
Tressel is still Tressel. You’re not going to see Smith putting the ball up 40 times on Saturday unless the Buckeyes fall way behind. He’ll probably run, run, run and try to set up that fake-option pass that killed MSU.
But he’s probably going to have to throw it early to get the run game going.
Brian (mgoblog): How many opportunities will Breaston get? Are Huston's kickoffs returnable? How is your punter doing?
Tom (The OZone): Huston had something like 17 kickoffs in a row that went for touchbacks this month. He had a couple that were returned last weekend, but part of that was due to the fact that he was kicking into a stiff wind. I’m also not sold on the fact that the coaches didn’t tell him to kick short once or twice, just to get the kick coverage guys some game experience.
For most of the year, they’ve been like outfielders in one of those Little League games where the pitcher has hit puberty before anyone else and is consequently just blowing the ball past everyone. You want those outfielders ready on the off-chance that one of the hitters has hit puberty, too, and Steve Breaston has a 5 o’clock shadow in the batter’s box.
The punter (redshirt freshman A.J. Trapasso) has been pretty good this year. He had one screwy play early in the year where he dropped the ball on a snap, but other than that he’s been solid. The gunners (especially #14, a backup DB named Antonio Smith) have been good this year. They need to have a great game Saturday.
It would not bother me at all if Trapasso just kicked it out of bounds 35 yards down the field all day. I think Michigan is much more dangerous with the ball in Breaston’s hands on a return than they are with the offense against the OSU defense.
Brian (mgoblog): Finally: what's your prediction?
Tom (The OZone): Ya know… I really don’t have a feel for this game. Normally, I at least have a feeling about how it’s going to turn out, even if it turns out to be completely wrong. This year, I think there are so many variables that it’s almost impossible to know how it’ll play out.
Is Hart healthy? Is the OSU offense for real? How much will it help to have Barringer and Englemon back at safety, instead of the Big Play twins? How will Michigan respond to their back-to-back bye weeks? What happens if Garret Rivas trots onto the field down two points in the final seconds, with a swirling wind, needing a 44-yarder to win the game?
I think most people would probably agree that on paper, the Buckeyes have a better team right now. I would take the OSU offense against the Michigan defense (but not by much), the OSU defense against the Michigan offense (but not by nearly as much as you might think), and the OSU special teams.
But we all know how often (2004, 2001, 1996, 1995, 1993… and maybe one or two others in between) the better team on paper loses this game.
Look at 1997 and 2002. Those teams combined to win 1.5 national championships (zing!). One needed to intercept a pass at the goal line on the final play of the game to pull out a win. The other needed a quarterback to go color-blind, then crap down his leg for 60 minutes to win.
This one is in Ann Arbor, and as nice as 2001 was, this will be my fifth time watching the Buckeyes play there in person, and I’ve already had three crappy, miserable drives home.
I guess I’m contractually obligated to pick the Buckeyes, but I get the feeling that either OSU wins by 10 or more, or Michigan finds a way to pull this out in the end.
OSU 27, Michigan 13 (If I’m wrong, I’ll be sobbing too loudly to hear about it anyway)
Next, we turned the tables, putting Brian on the hot seat.
The-Ozone Note and Quotebook - The Ozone
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The-Ozone Note and Quotebook
By John Porentas
Band of Road Warriors: The Buckeyes will be the visitors on Saturday when they take on the Wolverines, but OSU senior defensive tackle Marcus Green says that being on the road is really no big deal.
"The field is 100 yards, ours is 100 yards. They have two goal posts, we have to goal posts. It's football,' said Green getting right to the point.
The field may be the same, but the Buckeyes are not discounting the impact a home crowd can have.
"You go in and it's like you versus the world," said OSU senior defensive end Mike Kudla.
"There's so little Ohio State fans that they actually fit in there and 112,000 Michigan fans packed in there. It's just one of those deals where they get a little momentum and that stadium really gets going and they thrive off it just like we do the 'Shoe."
Because Ann Arbor is so close to Columbus, the Buckeyes will bus to the game. According to senior linebacker Bobby Carpenter, even the bus ride up to Ann Arbor can be hostile.
"It's something. You drive up there and you get off the bus. Their fans, you have people yelling at you," Carpenter said.
Once game day arrives, it is clear whose home field it is. That gets Carpenter pumped it.
Bobby Carpenter
"It's a great feeling walking into a place with 110,00 where every one of those people except the 2000 fans you have there, they all probably wish you would die. That's just how it is," said Carpenter.
"That's how it is when they come here. You're just blessed to be part of a huge rivalry like this."
Carpenter says the Buckeyes band together when the the odds are not in their favor.
"We only travel 64 guys up there, and every one of those guys is going up there for the same reason, and that's to win.
"Every one of them has to do everything they can, whether they're in the game or not, because we're all we have up there. There's 110 of them and 64 of us," Carpenter said.
Pants: The tradition of gold pants for winning the Michigan game continues at Ohio State. The current crop of seniors has already put together a nice collection of glittering trousers.
"I've got three," said senior defensive lineman Marcus Green.
"My mom has one and I think my dad has two. I give them to them. It's a real big to them.
"My did is probably more proud of them than I am. He shows everybody," said Green.
Green is hopeful there is still one more pair of gold pants in his future.
"I might have to keep these," Green said.
Green has a nice collection. Kicker Josh Huston also has an impressive collection of gold pants.
"I have three pair and have a chance to get a fourth one. That's pretty cool," said Huston.
"I gave my first pair to my mom, second pair to my dad, third pair I still have. I don't know what I would do with a fourth one."
Smash Mouth Game: Nobody knows what the outcome of the game will be, but senior OSU linebacker Anthony Schlegel has some idea as to what kind of game it will be and what will determine the outcome.
"The thing about this game is being more physical and wanting it more," said Schlegel.
"Watching the game in 2003 and then watching it last year, that's what it comes down to, who wants it more and who's going to be more physical," Schlegel said.
Schlegel said that tough games like the one he anticipates with the Wolverines are what gets his motor running.
" You always look forward to playing smash-mouth football when you're a linebacker," Schlegel said.
"That's always fun. Physical type games like this one are why I truly enjoy college football."
Senior offensive tackle Rob Sims agreed, and says the hitting will be consistent until the final seconds tick off the clock on both sides of the ball.
"They don't take any off, we don't take any off," said Sims.
"It's constant just playing as hard as you can.
" I'm just looking forward to it, because it's probably one of the most fun games you can play in just because it's the best rivalry in college football. We all know that, we're not ashamed to say that, not shy about saying that. We know this is THE game about college football.
"We're excited about the opportunity to play in a game like this and they want it as bad as we want it," Sims said.
I think a lot rides on this game (on whether this is a great season) because of the rivalry and tradition," added Schlegel.
"Last year we didn't really have a great season but we beat Michigan. They know that, we know that, and both teams are peaking right now. It's going to be a great battle and one that you play college football to be a part of this. That's what makes this so special."
Speakers: Both teams will pull out all the stops on the field on Saturday, but that will not be the beginning of the special effort this week. The OSU coaching staff usually has at least one or two special speakers in before the Michigan game. One of those is usually former Head Coach Earle Bruce.
"I think the greatest thing we have going is having "The Bruce" coming in and talking to us. I love it," said senior offensive lineman Nick Mangold.
"He comes in every Sunday after we have our meetings and stuff and it's great to hear him talk and how much he loves Ohio State, how much he cares about this game. I wish we could have it every day just to feel that fire," Mangold said.
According to Mangold, Bruce did not disappoint anyone this year when it comes to that fire and brimstone stuff.
"He was wild," said Mangold.
"If you were standing out here (in the WHAC) you could still hear him back there in the meeting room he gets do fired up and excited. You can't help but get excited when you hear him going crazy," Mangold said.
"It shows how much he loves the game. No matter what time of year it is, he'll always be talking about the Michigan vs. Ohio State game. When he finally gets the opportunity to talk to us before the game he just has so much emotion that you really understand how much it means to him and how much it means to everyone around them," Mangold concluded.
Bruce is not the only speaker to address the Buckeyes Michigan week.
"I remember last year Jack Tatum came back and was talking," said Anthony Schlegel.
"Honestly, it just shows how former players and coaches feel about this game and the significance of this game. That's what you come to Ohio State for, to play in this game and to be a part of it. Especially for the young guys who haven't been there, haven't been on the field, because they've got to know because it's one of those things that you don't fully understand until you start hitting people. Then you realize what the game is all about."
"We don't have people come in every day," added linebacker A. J. Hawk.
"We knew Coach Bruce was coming in, he's come in every year since I've been here before Michigan and talk to us.
"He comes in a lot during camp, we had Spielman talk to us during camp.
"They don't bring a bunch of guys in, just the guys that really mean something to Coach Tressel and this team that can help this team out."
Prognostobabblenation: In his weekly column today the-Ozone columnist Tony Gerdeman picked the Wolverines over the Buckeyes this weekend. As you might expect, Gerdeman was flayed on the-Ozone message board for his prediction. We've also gotten a few emails from people who are less-than happy with him. We gave him the chance to explain his pick. Here's what he had to say.
"I think it is obvious to everybody that Ohio State is the more talented team. You would have to be from Michigan to not see it," Gerd said in an email to the-Ozone editor.
"But, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one person to look past telling weaknesses and strengths of this team and that team, and make a pick that makes absolutely no sense. And that's what I did. And I hated doing it, and I hope to never have to do it again."
Uh-huh. Thanks for clearing that up Gerd.
Nature or Nurture?: Sports fans who grow up in the states of Ohio and Michigan just naturally seem to understand that importance of The Game. It's importance is driven hope to them at an early age, so early that the connection seem almost in the DNA.
"My first memory of this game is sitting around at home and my dad and my uncles sitting around the TV and it's the Ohio State vs. Michigan game," said defensive end Mike Kudla.
"It started then and just being from Ohio, it's just the way you grow up. I was no different. The Ohio State vs. Michigan game is the biggest game of the year. I know it meant a lot to them then and it means more to them now. I just kind of fell into that mode as a young kid and it kind of grew with me," Kudla said.
For players who have come to Ohio State from out of state, however, there is a different course of events.They come to the same conclusion, but there is definite learning curve involved for the newcomers.
"Me being from Florida I was always a big Florida State vs. Miami guy, that was my big rivalry that I paid attention to," said senior safety Nate Salley.
"When I got up here when we played them my freshman year with the national championship on the line and the Big Ten championship on the line and all that, I believe that's when it hit me.
"The fans rushed the field and it was 14-9, such a close, hard-fought game and seeing how crazy everyone was that whole week, I think that opened my eyes to see how serious it was.
"Then to go the next year and have the same opportunity, then lose, that just made me realize how serious it can be," Salley said.
The out-of-staters quickly learn the importance of the game, and to appreciate it.
"This is what you live and die for," said Florida native Santonio Holmes who has fully learned to appreciate the rivalry.
"You want to play against teams like this, you want to be in the biggest rivalry, you want to be in the spotlight, and you don't want to be on the losing end of that game."