Is offering early actually an advantage?

[Cornerback6]

Maybe it's just me, but it seems like Virginia has offered everyone in the nation from the '08 class. Which prompts my question(s).


How much stock do you all put in being the 1st to offer? I personally think it makes very little to no difference for 95% of recruits.

On a similar note, is it just me or does it seems that recruiting has gotten significantly more cut throat every year with school's basically pushing each other to continue to offer more athletes earlier and earlier every season? How far will it go I wonder? I don't ever remember tOSU putting out this many official offers (seemingly at least) this early in the past.

 

[crazybuckfan40]

Maybe it's just me, but it seems like Virginia has offered everyone in the nation from the '08 class. Which prompts my question(s).


How much stock do you all put in being the 1st to offer? I personally think it makes very little to no difference for 95% of recruits.

I think this is just the nature of the beast, that a kid that is gettitng all these offers you basically have to offer if you want a chance or the kid will feel slighted that you are not as interested as the other schools, unless of course it is an Ohio kid or a state school kid that has always had the dream of staying home and playing for the home state school.

Also I think that the first school holds weight if you sit on that offer fro a month or more, but if you get the first offer and then a couple more that day or the following week, I don't think the first offer matters much...

On a similar note, is it just me or does it seems that recruiting has gotten significantly more cut throat every year with school's basically pushing each other to continue to offer more athletes earlier and earlier every season? How far will it go I wonder? I don't ever remember tOSU putting out this many official offers (seemingly at least) this early in the past.

Well I don't think that it is going to go any farher than the first day that the juniors can be officially offered, but some kids are no brainers, but the problem has become schools that don't have the recruiting power of schools like tOSU, scUM, USC, Texas, Florida, etc. have to offer all these kids early to even have a real chance to get any of these kids, b/c lets say that Iowa comes with an offer say 3 months after you already received an offer from tOSU and Michigan are you going to mull over that offer or just pass it off as thanks, but no thanks, now if the roles are reversed you feel that Iowa showed early interest in you and have been with you from the beginning b4 you really blew up...

For an 18 yr. old kid you might compare this to say a g/f situation. If a decent looking girl asks you out, and you start dating her for about 3 months and then the smokin' hot girl of the school comes and ask you out 3 months later, you will for sure think about it, but if the hot girl comes to you early, you don't even think about the decent looking girl...

 

[ol104]

lets say that Iowa comes with an offer say 3 months after you already received an offer from tOSU and Michigan are you going to mull over that offer or just pass it off as thanks, but no thanks, now if the roles are reversed you feel that Iowa showed early interest in you and have been with you from the beginning b4 you really blew up...

I hope this does not become the case with Mr. Stoneburner. I think he is ours if we offer, but say we wait until camp to offer and Iowa has been showing him the love like they have, you never really know...

 

[crazybuckfan40]

I hope this does not become the case with Mr. Stoneburner. I think he is ours if we offer, but say we wait until camp to offer and Iowa has been showing him the love like they have, you never really know...

Well IMO Stoneburner is one of those guys, as long as you stay in touch and are honest about the process of wanting to see him at camp, with him being a hometown boy the early interest may not mean as much as it would with an OOS kid...

 

[Joe Paterno]

Maybe it's just me, but it seems like Virginia has offered everyone in the nation from the '08 class.

Isn't that why they are Virginia???

 

[wadc45]

Al Groh sends out offers like they are going out of style...

 

[Best Buckeye]

Offering early has become a standard practice. I could see it coming years ago and now teams are just about forced to do it. It will also become worse unless the ncaa starts to regulate it. Just a few years back no one was offering juniors or even contacting them as a regular practice.
Now look at us, we have threads on here about the 2010 seniors. Didn't Bob Knight offer one his players as an eigth grader?
The bigger schools are chomping at the bit to get the players they want so some do offer everyone and his brother and start earlier and earlier just to be in on the ground floor. This practice may not get a certain player wanted but on the other hand a surprise happens too.
I agree that in most cases it doesn't matter because most kids grow up wanting to play for someone and they go there. But if a kid grows up and say wants to play for Toledo and gets offers from the biggies he might move up.

 

[BuckTwenty]

I don't ever remember tOSU putting out this many official offers (seemingly at least) this early in the past.

In the past, old recruiting coordinator Bill Conley used to use the "shotgun method" in recruiting, giving offers by spur-of-the-moment judgement calls to a lot of deserving kids. By this time, there were at least this many offers out and usually more. Tressel didn't like to take that approach to recruiting, instead opting to bring all the coaches together to get a unanimous vote on whether to offer the player or not before offering.

I couldn't tell ya which method or philosophy to recruiting is better (both have their upsides and downsides), but with having so few scholarships to give this year, it's good that we're getting our offers out to the guys we absolutely want in this class right away and "showing them the love". Next year will be VERY interesting in regards to having a ton of offers to give with Tressel's philosophy of recruiting. I just hope that in '09 he uses more of those valuable official visits with recruits (last year, he only used half of the allotment allowed)

 

[Buckeyecty4]

I think it's important... in some cases I think it at least give you an edge on getting a visit, which is critical... For some kids it means more than others, but you always feel a little something for the first team that showed (in an offer) that they want you and believe in you... I think this is especially the case with big schools... which I dont think Viriginia qualifies for...

I also agree with the point made above, that if that first big offer comes a few months before the rest, that means more, than if a kid gets an OSU offer on Monday, and the by Tueday he's got 3-4 more big ones.. A kid like McCarthy this year comes to mind... OSU jumped on him very early.. and I think that will do a lot to keep him in our favor if/when ND offers..

 

[Moose]

I would think it gives you an advantage, it would at least place the recruiting school on a level playing field with the rest of the schools. Thus, I believe if you are the first to extend an offer, your showing the "Love" to the particular recruit your going after. Then is some cases, I do believe, it doesn't matter at all. But if I were in charge, I'd offer first, or at least get into the thick of things.
Moose