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Interesting day yesterday

Gatorubet

Loathing All Things Georgia
Well, as per my normal annual tradition, I flew my Bonnie Blue Flag outside my office to mark Robert E. Lee's birthday, and spend some of the day watching the Obama inaugural events and getting psyched about him taking office.

Thinking about the juxtaposition of the two events made me happy all day.
 
DaytonBuck;1386178; said:
The great Robert E Lee's birthday being yesterday is a long forgotten fact

I have his portrait - and one of Frederick Douglass - on my office walls. I admire both of them, for they both represent the very best of the human spirit's ability to conquer the impulse to hate after horrific events have given you the reason to do so. They both displayed the finest qualities of character when it would have been easy to give in to hate.

I won't fly a stars and bars because the South allowed that symbol to be taken over by hate groups, and it would be disrespectful in my mind to fly it. The flag I do fly is good because nobody knows what the hell it is. :biggrin:

 
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Gatorubet;1386186; said:
I have his portrait - and one of Frederick Douglass - on my office walls. I admire both of them, for they both represent the very best of the human spirit's ability to conquer the impulse to hate after horrific events have given you the reason to do so. They both displayed the finest qualities of character when it would have been easy to give in to hate.

I won't fly a stars and bars because the South allowed that symbol to be taken over by hate groups, and it would be disrespectful in my mind to fly it. The flag I do fly is good because nobody knows what the hell it is. :biggrin:


Lee was at Harpers Ferry and only left because his native Virginia did. When the war was over he believed that the bad blood should be dropped and everyone should try to move on.
 
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DaytonBuck;1386187; said:
Lee was at Harpers Ferry and only left because his native Virginia did. When the war was over he believed that the bad blood should be dropped and everyone should try to move on.

After the war he was broke and unemployed and waiting for a possible treason trial and hanging. The Yankees had taken his house (his wifes, but ya know...) and buried Union soldiers in their yard to [censored] him off (Arlington), so he had no home.

An insurance company offered him 100K to be head of the company, knowing his soldiers would buy his policies if he was the shill. He asked what he had to do for the 100K, which is millions now. They said "nothing, just let us use your name". He said "No thank you, I would not be earning my salary."

Can you see that today? Sumbitches would be think tank and lobbying like mofos....

Another story I like, his first visit back to Richmond on Sunday, he went to Church, heard the sermon, and at the end they called to go up for communion (Episcopal church I think) and first guy to go up was an African. Everybody froze, as it had not ever happened before. It was about to be violence in the sanctuary when one guy got up and knelt down next to the black dude. It was Bobby Lee. Everybody chilled for a second, and said, if Lee is fine with it, then so be it.

I mean, his whole life was a counter to that moment, and even though his friends were all dead, his country gone, his home gone, his son missing and in a POW camp, he could put it all aside and say I will worship next to this guy and let it all go.

Given the emotional context and the cultural context it is amazing, even if it seems like no big deal, not even on the mental radar now.
 
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Gatorubet;1386194; said:
After the war he was broke and unemployed and waiting for a possible treason trial and hanging. The Yankees had taken his house (his wifes, but ya know...) and buried Union soldiers in their yard to [censored] him off (Arlington), so he had no home.

An insurance company offered him 100K to be head of the company, knowing his soldiers would buy his policies if he was the shill. He asked what he had to do for the 100K, which is millions now. They said "nothing, just let us use your name". He said "No thank you, I would not be earning my salary."

Can you see that today? Sumbitches would be think tank and lobbying like mofos....

Another story I like, his first visit back to Richmond on Sunday, he went to Church, heard the sermon, and at the end they called to go up for communion (Episcopal church I think) and first guy to go up was an African. Everybody froze, as it had not ever happened before. It was about to be violence in the sanctuary when one guy got up and knelt down next to the black dude. It was Bobby Lee. Everybody chilled for a second, and said, if Lee is fine with it, then so be it.

I mean, his whole life was a counter to that moment, and even though his friends were all dead, his country gone, his home gone, his son missing and in a POW camp, he could put it all aside and say I will worship next to this guy and let it all go.

Given the emotional context and the cultural context it is amazing, if it seems like no big deal, not even on the mental radar deal now.

Probably a testament to America's greatness that no one other than the swissman at Andersonville got hung.
 
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DaytonBuck;1386196; said:
Probably a testament to America's greatness that no one other than the swissman at Andersonville got hung.

I have no idea, but I have a feel that after 627,000 plus dead, they were just ready to stop the killing and get on with life.

Edit: toasted Obama, Lee, Douglass, Lincoln, and my dog. Goin' to bed now, full of vodka.
 
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