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one of Tressel's biggest attributes - or at least we like to think so: getting character guys who think being at Ohio State is special.
really? without wanting to drag the whole thread into a [censored]ing match, there has seemed to be a high number of incidents with players and questionable actions since he came in. More than I recall with Cooper, but I was young then so maybe I didn't hear much about that, or didn't pay attention. So while you can't argue with the results, I would be hard pressed to say he's brought nothing but saints in since 2000.


*prepares for onslaughts of F U jerkoff scUM a-hole*
 
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WolverineMike;1868550; said:
really? without wanting to drag the whole thread into a [censored]ing match, there has seemed to be a high number of incidents with players and questionable actions since he came in. More than I recall with Cooper, but I was young then so maybe I didn't hear much about that, or didn't pay attention. So while you can't argue with the results, I would be hard pressed to say he's brought nothing but saints in since 2000.


*prepares for onslaughts of F U jerkoff scUM a-hole*
I don't recall saying he's brought in nothing but saints. I said we like to think that Tress recruits character guys.
 
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WolverineMike;1868550; said:
really? without wanting to drag the whole thread into a [censored]ing match, there has seemed to be a high number of incidents with players and questionable actions since he came in. More than I recall with Cooper, but I was young then so maybe I didn't hear much about that, or didn't pay attention. So while you can't argue with the results, I would be hard pressed to say he's brought nothing but saints in since 2000.

I know bkb brought up JR and character, but that topic is over in this thread. I'll have to split off any responses to it.
 
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WolverineMike;1868550; said:
there has seemed to be a high number of incidents with players and questionable actions since he came in. More than I recall with Cooper

the increasing popularity of the internet makes up 65% of that perception, ESPN's 24 hour, multi-month coverage of Maurice Clarett (which ultimately amounted to no wrong doing for Ohio State, not even a failure to monitor, after two full fledged investigations) makes up the other 35%
 
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WolverineMike;1868550; said:
really? without wanting to drag the whole thread into a [censored]ing match, there has seemed to be a high number of incidents with players and questionable actions since he came in. More than I recall with Cooper, but I was young then so maybe I didn't hear much about that, or didn't pay attention. So while you can't argue with the results, I would be hard pressed to say he's brought nothing but saints in since 2000.


*prepares for onslaughts of F U jerkoff scUM a-hole*
...and you'd be flat wrong. Jerkoff scUM a-hole.
 
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WolverineMike;1868550; said:
really? without wanting to drag the whole thread into a [censored]ing match, there has seemed to be a high number of incidents with players and questionable actions since he came in. More than I recall with Cooper, but I was young then so maybe I didn't hear much about that, or didn't pay attention. So while you can't argue with the results, I would be hard pressed to say he's brought nothing but saints in since 2000.


*prepares for onslaughts of F U jerkoff scUM a-hole*

Really?!? Many will be nice to you because, well I have no idea why.

I can't allow the "there has seemed to be" crap go without a comment. If you believe that to be true, do the research to see if what you believe is actually true. But make sure it is good research. That is, besides looking at JT years versus Coop years, also look at other D1 programs during JT's tenure. To get an accurate measure of the "seemed to be", one needs to look at other D1 programs since there is an element of relativity to it.

Sadly, this type of shit is being lost on most today...the ability to do some basic research to support or refute a belief. On top of this, even my youngest son (an 8th grader) would know that if he were to toss out a "seemed to be" type statement, he better have some research to back up his belief.
 
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BUCKYLE;1868982; said:
Seems to me TSUN can't beat JT despite bringing in dudes that bar-fight with beer bottles and guys that flash their cocks and take pics of the victims.


might want to revisit the bar fight case. He was found not guilty of that and won a counter suit for defamation of character.
 
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