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HOF: Who Gets In Today?

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Who gets the required 75% vote today?

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Jax: "Why don't you do some research and post something factually correct instead of your typical pro-yankee hyperbole or develop the sack to admit your wrong when its pointed out to you?"

To clarify, oh genius:

TB = Total Bases.

TOB = Times On Base.

I was giving you TOB, not TB. Again, GO BACK AND READ! Hooked on Phonics would make a freeking fortune on this site ..
 
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Tibbs: "Another clueless Yankee fan who thinks "pretty good" equals "HOF"

Aren't such words grounds for re-banishment?
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Not even close, in my opinion. IMO, It's about the same as your recent crack about 'Hooked on Phonics'.

You should be able to defend the charge with your posts. You have the opportunity to prove you're not clueless. Readers will form their own opinions based on content and presentation.
 
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BB73 said:
Baseball needs a stat called 'Bases advanced'. The batter would get credit for each base that was advanced because of his plate appearance. It would count 1 for a sacrifice fly and 1 for a sacrifice bunt. It would count 3 for a single advancing a runner from 1st to 3rd. A baserunner (not the batter) gets 1 for every stolen base, as well as each base advanced on wild pitches and passed balls. With only a runner on first, a GIDP would be worth -1, since a base was lost. With runners on the corners, a GIDP with a run scoring is worth 0. Hitting into a triple play would be worth -2, assuming no run scored (which is possible if the 3rd out occurs in a run-down or something like that).

You'd get 10 bases for a grand slam, 8 for a double that knocks in 3 runs, 1 for a lead-off walk, and 4 for a bases-loaded walk. In that way, a bases-loaded walk equals a solo home run, as it should (think about it - both situations add 1 run to the scoreboard without changing the number of outs or the number of baserunners).

I believe that 'bases advanced' divided by all plate appearances would measure offensive efficiency better than any existing statistic. Feel free to go back and calculate it for Mattingly and Clark if you really care. :wink2:
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There is a stat called "estimated runs produced" that weights a players offensive contiribution (including the negatives-- steals is a positive, Caught stealing as a negative) and assigns a value to it to calculate how many runs a player is likely contributing to his team. (Each total base in an AB adding more value.)

Anyway it looks like this:

(2 x (TB + BB + HP) + H + SB - (.605 x (AB + CS + GIDP - H))) x .16 = Runs

(this is not the same formula as runs created... and is probably better in a vaccuum than BB73's for comparing players because its inherently difficult to advance runners if no one is one base (ie your team sucks).

There is another stat formula called RBI equivalency-- which does something similar to compar RBI's-- that does the same to compare Runs batted in, and this one also weights postion in the lineup.
 
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Sloopy45 said:
Jax: "Why don't you do some research and post something factually correct instead of your typical pro-yankee hyperbole or develop the sack to admit your wrong when its pointed out to you?"

To clarify, oh genius:

TB = Total Bases.

TOB = Times On Base.

I was giving you TOB, not TB. Again, GO BACK AND READ! Hooked on Phonics would make a freeking fortune on this site ..
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My bad, never heard anyone try and say Times On Base before, thought you were just making yet another stats mistake.

Now back to your faulty math and knowledge of the formulas used to create baseball stats.......
 
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AKAKBUCK said:
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You just hate to see stuff like this.:lol:
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Thump: "Why would we, you'll just turn it into a pissing contest."

Dude, I never started this pissing match. You did.

"I think he belongs in personally but don't feel like I have the energy to deal with you right now."

I was only joking. Murray is the definition of "compiler" but I can't make an argument against him.
 
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Sloopy45 said:
Thump: "Why would we, you'll just turn it into a pissing contest."

Dude, I never started this pissing match. You did.

"I think he belongs in personally but don't feel like I have the energy to deal with you right now."

I was only joking. Murray is the definition of "compiler" but I can't make an argument against him.
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Murray also fits the mold of integrity, character and sportsmanship, all considerations which were lost in the stats battle here...
 
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