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Here's hoping Eli Manning is a huge bust (SB XLII MVP)...

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You got that right Ram. Just look at what the Chargers did compared to the Browns.

Manning essentially tried to devalue their number one pick by saying they couldn't have the player they wanted. I am guessing the Giants didn't offer what SD wanted and SD called their bluff. With Manning in SDs pocket the Giants had no choice but to barter (SD had all year to trade Manning) - and they took the shaft.

Then along come the Browns. They could easily have called Detroits bluff and then offered the same trade if Winslow was gone. But instead they choke and trade the #7 and #37 players in the draft for the #6 player (note also that Ben Troupe would have still been available for that #37 pick). And to top it off it is a player who many of their fans hate and who is the last person on the planet who needed his ego stroked. Can you imagine how big his agent's eyes got when that trade was made? He will be the highest paid #6 pick in NFL history - if they can sign him (wuoldn't that be a hoot).

I want to play poker with Butch Davis.
 
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Ram

You evidently didn't understand my point to Tibor.
It wasn't about the fact that the Giants may have given up to much. I think they were quite stupid to give up next years #1 for this guy. That is way too much for Manning or any player in this draft.
My point to Tibor is that he is wrong about Manning getting all this attention because of his name. That's just silly.
If his name was Bob Smith, he still would've been the most sought after QB.

Oh8

I don't like Butch. I can't see him taking the Browns to a championship.
But this sin't a bad draft.
Troupe is so far behind Winslow in talent and would not make the impact that Winslow will make.
Getting Jones in the Second round was a good move.
He's addressed three of the four biggest needs on this team since the end of the season.
1. A QB now and one for the future
2. A TE. Not any TE. One that should be great.
3. The 2nd highest rated safety in the draft.
4. They only need to work on the offensive line now.
 
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So much for being a huge bust....

2008_nyg_eli_manning.jpg


Can you say SuperBowl XLII MVP? :biggrin:
 
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BuckeyeNation27;1479914; said:
what.....you couldn't find a post where people were doubting john elway?
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jlb1705;1479926; said:
Have you been mulling over that post for the last year and a half?
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No, sometimes when I get bored with the current topics I go back and scan some of the really old threads. It's interesting to reminisce and see who was here in the "early days" of Buckeye Planet and what they had to say.

Besides I'm a New York Giant fan and I like Eli. :biggrin:
 
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tibor75;14326; said:
first of all I couldn't stand the guy mainly because of all the unwarranted attention he was getting. He was nowhere near a great college QB but people salivate over him b/c of his last name. Really, if his name was Eli Jones, would he even be a first round pick?
Of course, it looks like he now has Daddy running the shots. what a pathetic loser.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040422/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_chargers_manning
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:slappy:

Nice call, dipshit.
 
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