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cincibuck;856023; said:
The point that is getting lost here is that when just looking at the low rate of incidents that required a lawyer (Article 15s and Courts Martial) during the time frame of 2 Aug 1990 - 15 April 1991, we (the writers of the ODS/S Lessons Learned for Logistics) concluded that the greatly reduced amount of alcohol available for consumption was probably the biggest single factor.

I don't want to see prohibition come back. I don't intend to unilateraly go dry, but I can certainly see that it has an impact on the behavior of a community.
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That was also the first time the US had a mobilization of that size after the introduction of the all volunteer military.

Correlation does not equate causation.
 
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Muck;856322; said:
That was also the first time the US had a mobilization of that size after the introduction of the all volunteer military.

Correlation does not equate causation.
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The statement I (we) made said the absence of alcohol was the greatest of many factors.

Drafted or volunteers, the force was still made up of young American men and women. Those same men and women had access to alcohol in their home bases and we knew how many Article 15s and Courts Martial there were per X number of troops. We also knew how incidents came out of training in remote sites w/wo booze....

Jeez, how difficult is it to accept: a) the idea that alcohol affects behavior?
b) that young, healthy American kids across the complete demographic sweep of our nation are going to experiment with alcohol? c) that the presence, or absence, of alcohol in an area where there are young healthy Americans is going to change the behavior of those same Americans?

I'm not making a moral judgement about alcohol or those who drink (I'm one too). I am saying that alcohol is evidently a frequent part of the equation when young healthy Americans get into legal problems.

If you still don't believe me I invite you to go watch a high school prom. Been there, done that too.
 
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One of the hidden agendas of the Evangelical right is prohibition and the banning of all gambling and smoking.

So, basically, they want to take away all the "fun" things that many here enjoy on a regular basis.
But, there's nothing to worry about. After all, a Evangelical could never be elected President once, let alone for 2 terms!
 
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Taosman;857681; said:
One of the hidden agendas of the Evangelical right is prohibition and the banning of all gambling and smoking.

So, basically, they want to take away all the "fun" things that many here enjoy on a regular basis.
But, there's nothing to worry about. After all, a Evangelical could never be elected President once, let alone for 2 terms!
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Yeah, prohibition is a huge issue in the debates.
 
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Taosman;857681; said:
One of the hidden agendas of the Evangelical right is prohibition and the banning of all gambling and smoking.

So, basically, they want to take away all the "fun" things that many here enjoy on a regular basis.
But, there's nothing to worry about. After all, a Evangelical could never be elected President once, let alone for 2 terms!
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So why is it that the left has been pushing the public smoking ban here in Ohio??
 
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sandgk;857721; said:
Just needed restating.
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I think, and hope for his sake, that he meant they never had the ability to pursue it. What is the point of a hidden issue that one does not intend to bring up? And being the "crazy Evangelical" Bush is, why, with a Republican controlled Congress, would these issues never pop up? Makes a lot of sense.
 
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BuckeyeMike80;855520; said:
now in Qatar you get 3 a day on Camp Doha. It was weird going into downtown Doha to an Applebee's and see an entirely empty bar.

Up in Iraq there was no alcohol for the soldiers on base. However, those of us contractors weren't under General Order #1 (at the time) and we'd go to Baghdad International Airport and hit up the duty free :biggrin:

It rocked, what can I say? I had "acquired" a fridge (people were using it for book storage) and we had cold beer for the first 9 months of my 12 month stay :biggrin:
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Oh Fuck yeah, them were the days. Last taste before hitting the sand? 6 Tuborgs, then coming home 120 days latter without so much as a swish of Listerine and then hitting up 6-9 Tuborgs again? Trash-ed, F'in wasted were those nights, singing to some camp band at 2330 in the middle of 110 degree nights then hitting a plane at 0800 to finally be heading home. Fuck I hate deploying.....
 
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