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have you guys ever taken protein shakes?

I am not sure I agree, and I have no idea how simple whey protein which is a milk by prduct could screw someones thyroid up???

Even people who don't work out and whose activity is not that high during the day should be getting .4-.5 grams of protein a day per lb of lean body mass a day.
 
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My brother used to take that stuff but his dictor told him to quit b/c they thought it was messing up his thyroid gland.

He ended up having have half of his thyroid removed.:(

The human body isn't made to ingest that much protein in a day.

Was hs just taking shakes or the GNC brand ones? One shake normally gives you 40% of your daily protein, so if I take two during a lifting day, then I will normally go somewhat over the 100%.

I would just stay away from the GNC brand shake. Every employee I have talked to says to not use it as it has a boatload of cholesterol.

About the thyroid, just about every member of my family has has it removed so I feel like sadly, I'm doomed as well :(
 
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for the guys here who buy whey protein, go to this site:

proteinfactory.com

it is BY FAR the best place to buy protein. it's likely that all you've been eating is protein concentrate. protein isolate is much different. one, for every 100 grams of powder, about 93% of is protein -- compared to about 77% for protein concentrate. the differential (what you'll find in concentrate to make up the difference) is ash and other carbs. two, it mixes so much easier. with whey protein concentrate, mixing with a fork yields clumps. you could mix protein isolate with a spoon in much less time and the result has no clumps. three, i always had intestinal problems (mainly just gas) with concentrate. some others who take concentrate, but not all, do, too. i've absolutely no issues with whey protein isolate.

here's the kicker with proteinfactory.com : you can formulate your own protein. you can throw in different products as you see fit. we've all heard of creatine and those who are into supplements also know the benefit of glutamine. well, you could, say, make a protein concoction of 90%, 5% glutamine peptides, and 5% creatine. also, you can select the flavor and the sweetener. guys, the sweetener has a lot to do with how the protein tastes. most proteins that you'll find at the local health food store are not flavored with splenda (sucralose), which i find to be the best. so, at no added cost, you could select splenda (they have about 5 or so available sweeteners) and chocolate or strawberry or vanilla or fruit punch or... others.

now, you can get carried away at proteinfactory, spending much more than you'd originally. however, if you stick to the basics and don't add a lot, you'll save money. what it all comes down to is how much you're spending per gram of protein. don't try to compute what you're spending per pound. again, remember that not all proteins supplements have the same number of proteins per serving. you can still buy whey protein concentrate from the proteinfactory. they sell 5-pound containers for $20. again, what makes buying protein from there better is that you can decide which sweetener (splenda makes a difference) and which flavor (there are many) you want.

if you go to the site, and if you're interested in this stuff, you could spend a couple hours there. they have lots of great products, ranging from carbohydrate powders, fat powders (efa), and supplements (creatine, glutamine, fat-loss capsules, etc). of course, what they are most known for is their great selection of protein powders.

my suggestion is buy a little and test it. if you like it, you may want to consider branching out to the other types of proteins that cost more but can also do more for gaining muscle. concocting your own meal replacement powder will soon be a must. oh, if you want to design your own mrp, i would suggest throwing in rice oligodextrin. it's a carbohydrate with a low glycemic value, which doesn't spike your insulin level. it's a good carb for extended energy, it's inexpensive, and it tastes great in your shake. it makes the shake really thick, and it tastes good. i just bought some the last time that i made my order.

if you have any questions, feel free to ask. the site, though, is very good about helping you. you can email them, go into a chat room with the owner, leave questions on their message board, or you can call them. it's a great site! don't worry... i'm in no way affiliated with the proteinfactory. it's just that i've been using there products for about 6 years, and it's so great that i recommend it to everyone who uses protein supplements. after i tell someone about it, they never go anywhere else. trust me.

best of luck.
 
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see i dont think my body form is made for football man...i look funny as shit in my pads..lol my jersey is to big. im trying to get right for my final season in playing football...

p.s. ted ginn is my favorite player every game i try to look like him lol:osu:
 
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Using roids at your age is the WORST advice ever. At your age you are producing more then enough testosterone that all you need to do is eat, lift and repeat as the other posters have said. Using steroids at your age is not going to kill you etc etc (don't buy all the media BS) but it will affect how much T your body will produce later on. With proper diet, supplementation, etc you can easily reach most of your goals without Roids.

Also before even thinking about using roids there are several other products you would need lined up first... so it is not an option ok. Hit the gym eat lots and rest well.
 
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Using roids at your age is the WORST advice ever. At your age you are producing more then enough testosterone that all you need to do is eat, lift and repeat as the other posters have said. Using steroids at your age is not going to kill you etc etc (don't buy all the media BS) but it will affect how much T your body will produce later on. With proper diet, supplementation, etc you can easily reach most of your goals without Roids.

Also before even thinking about using roids there are several other products you would need lined up first... so it is not an option ok. Hit the gym eat lots and rest well.

Uh, since when has there ever been a good age for using steroids?
 
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There are several reasons why people may decide to take steroids for non medical reasons and yes it can be done safely. On what bases do you think taking steroids is bad in all cases? From the several hours of research I have done and talking to several medical doctors I really would like to know your reasoning behind this.
 
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There are several reasons why people may decide to take steroids for non medical reasons and yes it can be done safely. On what bases do you think taking steroids is bad in all cases? From the several hours of research I have done and talking to several medical doctors I really would like to know your reasoning behind this.

Are you sure you're not Victor Conte? Far be it from me to argue with the "several hours of research" you did and the "several medical doctors" (whew, and I was worried you were consulting doctors of economics) you consulted, but the mere fact that usage of anabolic is unethical should be enough.
 
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It is now unethical??? Why is that? I am not saying it should be used if the sport has banned them etc, but there are reasons for them to be used. I do not even use roids, I have no need to, but before throwing out statements like that do some research on the facts.
 
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but the mere fact that usage of anabolic is unethical should be enough.
sorry, stoo, but it is not in all cases. steroids are commonly used for legal and worthwhile medical purposes. of course, steroids are also used to gain muscle for non-medical purposes, and that is illegal and unethical (unethical in the competitive environment; otherwise, it's just illegal; there's nothing unethical about using it for cosmetic and other similar reasons). again, there are many great uses for steroids that are perfectly legal.
 
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