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Greg Schiano (HC Rutgers Scarlet Knights)

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redguard117 said:
Go back and read what I originally said - I was specifically referring to Kirby Smart.

I don't give a crap who Alabama has as an OC or how long they've been there. Alabama and offense are not things that go together.

My point is that Alabama managed to keep an elite DC (Smart) for nearly a decade, Clemson has kept Venables since 2012, and VT has kept Foster since who knows how long. All elite defensive coordinators, all of whom have been considered for major head coaching positions, but all of whom decided to stay put (until recently for Smart and possibly Venables).

Wish we could get one of those, now that Fickell is gone.
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Stop bringing up Venables and Foster. We have established that they are lifetime coordinators.

Let us look at why coaches leave schools. Better opportunity, better pay, conflicts with their current head coach.

Why do coaches choose the next opportunity? An opportunity to be a head coach, they have a relationship with the AD, they want to coach at a place they graduated from or coached at, they want to coach at a traditional powerhouse, they want to coach at a place they can recruit the best talent.

One example you bring up is Smart. Let us examine Smart. Born in Alabama and grew up in Georgia. Graduated from the University of Georgia. Spent his whole career in the South. Was the DC for Alabama from 2008-2015. Let say his first opportunity to leave Alabama would be 2011.

Here are some job openings after the 2011 season. Ohio State, West Virginia, UNC, New Mexico, Arizona, Tuane, Penn State, Florida Atlantic, Ole Miss, New Mexico, Arizona, Akron, Memphis, Illinois, UAB, Kansas, ASU, UCLA, WSU, Texas A&M, Colorado ST, Fresno ST, Tulane, Arkansas and some other schools. Which one of those would be a step up from the DC at Alabama? Ohio State, UCLA, Penn State. Ohio State was going to hire Urban Meyer no matter who was available. UCLA would be as much a bad fit culture wise as Chip Kelly to Florida. I don't think he wanted to touch the Penn State job.

2012 the most notable job openings were Wisconsin, Auburn, Tennessee and Oregon. Alvarez had his man in Bielema. Oregon was not a good fit. Tennessee is Tennessee. That leaves Auburn who just fired a coach two years after he won them the national championship.

2013 notable coaching changes USC, Penn State, Texas. USC wanted to bring in someone with ties to USC so they bring in Sarkisian. I don't think he wanted the Penn State job. I don't know much about the Texas coaching search at that time. I know Strong was the hottest name having success at Louisville.

I can go into the other years, but I think I have made my point about the right opportunity no showing itself until the Georgia spot opened up. He might have been waiting for the Georgia position his whole life. You will have to ask him that.
 
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Buckeyefrankmp said:
Stop bringing up Venables and Foster. We have established that they are lifetime coordinators.
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His point is, it sucks that we can't get a Venables or a Foster or a Don Brown to just show up and give stability to the position. Your counter to that can't be "You're not allowed to bring up Venables or Foster".
 
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Honestly I am happy to keep him, unless another team is wise and offers him a gig of course. That being said, UTenn for their actions just catapulted themselves into 2nd place on my most hated team/fanbase list. I hope to watch their whole program burn. Of all the snakey, weasley things to do, this is up there near the top. Either UT just let their fan base make completely frivolous accusations to scapegoat the hire bc it's not as big of name they wanted, or their AD did zero due diligence before making the hire, both are insanely pathetic. They should be sued for defamation of character. Has UT put out their actual supposed position on the matter? Just reading the comments from Volnation make me cringe, people going as far to saying he would be forced to register as a sex offender in UT, just complete inane nonsense.

Also, can we please play Tenn next year please? I would love to go into Neyland and pistol whip their program. May they forever remain in the toilet for the trash program they are.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
We have to fire him because he knows somebody who knows somebody who wore a Penn State shirt once.
-Tennessee fan logic
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I'm not sure it's just Tennessee fan logic though. Social media virtue signaling now dictates hiring practices everywhere. From Penn St to Baylor to Miramax, we're in an age where it's OK to play Six Degrees of Jerry Sandusky/Art Briles/Harvey Weinstein to block the employment of anybody you don't like. You don't need any proof, you just need the echo chamber of 500k Twitter followers.

The world has changed a lot in the last 18 months, man.
 
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Dryden said:
I'm not sure it's just Tennessee fan logic though. Social media virtue signaling now dictates hiring practices everywhere. From Penn St to Baylor to Miramax, we're in an age where it's OK to play Six Degrees of Jerry Sandusky/Art Briles/Harvey Weinstein to block the employment of anybody you don't like. You don't need any proof, you just need the echo chamber of 500k Twitter followers.

The world has changed a lot in the last 18 months, man.
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lot of folks who have no stake in this game are pretty frightened by what happened with Schiano
 
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