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osugrad21

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I'll move this to Open Discussion later probably, but this needs some exposure...

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Old mindsets, new successes

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Issue date: 5/22/06 Section: Opinion

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OSU had an open admissions policy, meaning it did not require ACT scores, a minimum grade-point average, recommendation letters or even an essay. Many unprepared students came home after dropping or failing out of OSU, and stories of the college's party-school image, high drop-out rate and lack of serious commitment to academia fueled negative views of the institution in local and national communities for decades.

But in recent years, all that has drastically changed. Since 1995, applications have increased by 15 percent, but the number of students admitted dropped 9 percent, according to a recent Cleveland Plain Dealer article. As further evidence of OSU's increasing selectivity, less than 30 percent of almost 20,000 prospective students who applied for enrollment into OSU for this upcoming autumn quarter were accepted by the university. Few, if any, make it off the wait list.

OSU is now in its 11th consecutive year of recruiting the best and brightest from around the country. ACT and SAT scores and class-rank averages for incoming freshmen have all skyrocketed as a result. On numerous occasions in the past, this page has praised OSU's climbing retention and graduation rates, particularly among black students and athletes.

Some of these improvements, and the prestige that has resulted from them, have spurred resentment among those who feel that, as a state school, OSU should be open to everyone. Some students admitted to private institutions and renowned out-of-state colleges are finding themselves being turned away from OSU because of increased selectivity and academic strength - and this can cause tension and confusion for those uninformed about the current OSU.

Some of the negative views from past images of OSU still exist even in light of OSU's recent accomplishments and shift in emphasized goals. Outdated mindsets, selective media coverage and miseducation about recent successes has helped to create a skewed image of the current OSU.

There is no doubt that issues such as crime, diversity and size remain question marks for those still forming their opinions about OSU. But anger should not be directed at a university that has dramatically improved the lives and academic enrichment of its students and faculty. There is nothing wrong with acknowledging that OSU is a much better school than it once was.

Increased selectivity and rising academic rankings exemplify, without a doubt, that the policies and initiatives implemented by OSU throughout the past two decades have been an overwhelming success. As a result, high school graduates looking to attend the best colleges are recognizing that OSU's increasing national spotlight and rise in rankings has, and will continue to, substantially increase the value of a degree from a prestigious - and under priced - university. There is no reason to get upset about smart investing.
 
Admissions Policies

BN27, and the rest of my more learned colleagues, I seem to remember that because OSU is a Land Grant University, they have to open up their admissions to anyone. That is exacerbated by the fact that the University is not limited by housing (a la commuters from Columbus or apartments in the surrounding area) not provided by OSU. (smaller schools, such as Miami University limit enrollment because of lack of housing).

Having said all that (and please remember, this is OLD information, and much has apparently changed), it is a great thing that anyone can go to college, and that is what OSU was designed for. Get in, give it a whirl, and if it didn't work, one had their shot.

Did not know that there had been a more selective admissions policy. That of course raises the barriers to entrance, and hopefully keeps the interested students in class to graduation. There has always been selection standards to the graduate schools (B-school, law, med, engineering, music, etc), but this is the first I have heard for undergrad......

Can anyone elaborate further? Thanks in advance. PS, I love seeing OSU ranked high in the 'standings' of the various colleges in our beloved university. Still gives me a sense of pride, (yes, just as much as a national championship in football/basketball/fencing/syncro swimming, etc).

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It was a gradual tightening of acceptance criteria--good thing, too, since OSU was my "fall-back" in 96, and I wouldn't have gotten in today (unless being a legacy still counts). :tongue2:

Being a legacy can't hurt it got Flounder into the Delta House Fraternity.

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...it is a great thing that anyone can go to college,

True--to an extent. For an academic institution to be effective and valid, there should be some minimal entrance requirements. Admitting prospective students who have no chance at making it through academically is a waste of time for both the student and the institution, not to mention keeping more deserving students out. Sorry, but not everyone has the "right" to go to college...they must earn the privilege.
 
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True--to an extent. For an academic institution to be effective and valid, there should be some minimal entrance requirements. Admitting prospective students who have no chance at making it through academically is a waste of time for both the student and the institution, not to mention keeping more deserving students out. Sorry, but not everyone has the "right" to go to college...they must earn the privilege.

Holy Crap!!!!

I totally agree!!
 
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buckeye247 said:
I wish it was an open door policy back when i graduated. I would have gone there.
Exactly what I was wondering, although it's not the reason I didn't apply (lousy dames). I could have claimed Ohio residency and had a decent enough SAT score, and was in the top 50% of my class. Just wondering if I wasn't such a dumbass, could I have gotten in.
 
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Well, on a scale of 1-10, how would you rate OSU as a college for undergrads?

Also, how would you rate it (1-10) as far as how hard it is to get in there, with 10 being the hardest.


I'm just wondering about it, because I will be applying to colleges soon and just wanna kind of get another opinion about OSU, because there is a lot that I don't know.
 
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In my opinion, any Ohio high school graduate who wants to attend Ohio State can still do so, so long as he or she is willing to attend a branch campus for a year or two. I knew some good people who did that, and I'm pretty sure that it is still a viable option.

Well, on a scale of 1-10, how would you rate OSU as a college for undergrads?

I'd be happy to answer your question in a PM after you're further along in the application process. The short answer is that if you are a Virginia resident and you get into the top few public Virginia schools, you'd be crazy not to attend at the in-state tuition prices. The football-spectator experience consequent to attending the Virginia schools, obviously, does not compare to Ohio State. :)
 
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