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Good riddance John Chaney..

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MililaniBuckeye said:
I don't recall Woody ever charging a reporter at a public news conference and threatening to kill him and kick his ass... :roll1:
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Just pointing out that most of us know about as much about Chaney as people nationally knew and know about Coach Hayes, and that we of all people might think twice before jumping on the bashing bandwagon given how unfair we've seen it can be. Besides, much as we all love him, Woody DID stomp yardage markers, punch a camera or two, and go off on Charlie Baumann.
 
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OK, I'll take the minority viewpoint here (and no, I'm not referencing the race issue). I agree fully that John Chaney has done some really crass and stupid stuff. The one thing I think was unforgivable was sending in the goon to injure a senior who would not get to play another game. That was horrible, and he should have actually been fired for that, in my opinion.

All that said, the realist in me always admired John Chaney. He took kids that no one else wanted, be it from a checkered past, or a bad neighborhood, or with academic issues, even a juvie record, or whatever, and did a lot of good for many of them, and for society as a whole. A lot of people talk a real good game about fighting poverty, and cleaning up bad neighborhoods, and getting kids out of gangs, and stemming the violence in inner city minority communities. Here's a guy who spent a good deal of his life actually out in the middle of the trenches making a difference, and doing the things that most people only talk about. It wasn't always pretty, he wasn't always right, and it wasn't always even effective, but the 100 or so people who went trough Temple with him are probably doing something a whole lot more productive and beneficial than they would have without him. So though I didn't always agree with his tactics, or temprement, he made happen what most people would like to see happen, but never make an effort to implement. For that, he gets my respect.

EDIT: And of course Soldier, to many people here, a Hayes/Cheney comparison is blasphemy. His point was that in many circles outside Buckeyeland, it isn't.
 
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Jagdaddy said:
Just pointing out that most of us know about as much about Chaney as people nationally knew and know about Coach Hayes, and that we of all people might think twice before jumping on the bashing bandwagon given how unfair we've seen it can be. Besides, much as we all love him, Woody DID stomp yardage markers, punch a camera or two, and go off on Charlie Baumann.
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Condemn? I don't see how the observation that the man did not have as much self control as he demanded of his players is considered comdemning. As for Woody, even the most adoring fan would admit that he lacked self control.

A little oversensitive today?
 
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I'm not going to condone some of the things John Chaney said or did in the heat of the moment, but as Bucklion said, the lives of countless kids are better off because he was involved with them, and cared about them. Flying off the handle, and having the self discipline to do things the right way, and demand that your players, from spotty backgrounds, do the same, are very different things in my book. I will admit that when I saw Cheney at UD Arena against the flyers this year, I said to my buddy-'maybe he'll go postal and choke the ref or something", but over the course of his career, I have a lot of respect for John Cheney.
 
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