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DaytonBuck

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Is there an explanation/reason he didn't dive into sitcoms/movies like every other guy who's done stand up has. I know Lenny Bruce and others didn't but Carlin is a guy for his time that would have had movie or TV all over him.
 
When Carlin was in his prime his act wasn't adaptable to prime time television.
Later on in life he dabbled when production of TV/Movies was a little more liberal in the type of comedy they could use. Maybe he was jaded at that point..
 
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Eddie Murphy on stand up in the 80's was truly a vulgar mofo

When everyone who did stand up cashed in on the Eddie Murphy SNL track why didn't Carlin get on this train?

I'd say principle but tell me how many modern stand ups aren't hopping on the tv/movie bandwagon
 
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Carlin did have a period of TV success (see: "hippy dippy weatherman"). I'd have to guess that he just wasn't a leading man type. Carlin had small parts in movies over the years, but guys like Murphy, Steve Martin, and Cosby had a certain charisma that Carlin didn't seem to have. Lenny Bruce couldn't be a superstar because he was blackballed for obscenity, and he was a junky. Seinfeld had a successful TV show, mainly due to a supremely talented cast (and Larry David's writing), but he couldn't be a lead in a major movie (not animated). Dane Cook indeed sucks.
 
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generaladm;1363740; said:
Carlin did have a period of TV success (see: "hippy dippy weatherman"). I'd have to guess that he just wasn't a leading man type. Carlin had small parts in movies over the years, but guys like Murphy, Steve Martin, and Cosby had a certain charisma that Carlin didn't seem to have. Lenny Bruce couldn't be a superstar because he was blackballed for obscenity, and he was a junky. Seinfeld had a successful TV show, mainly due to a supremely talented cast (and Larry David's writing), but he couldn't be a lead in a major movie (not animated). Dane Cook indeed sucks.


Right on Seinfeld with Larry David's help but it seems like and help me out here older folks the good stand ups in North America got sucked into SNL and SCTV in the late 70's early 80s.



Eddie Murhpy who was "raw" go turned into daddy day care.


It just seems to me watching career trajectories you're a good stand up you end up in movies or a TV show.
 
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DaytonBuck;1363743; said:
Right on Seinfeld with Larry David's help but it seems like and help me out here older folks the good stand ups in North America got sucked into SNL and SCTV in the late 70's early 80s.



Eddie Murhpy who was "raw" go turned into daddy day care.


It just seems to me watching career trajectories you're a good stand up you end up in movies or a TV show.

You are correct. SNL launched Belushi, Akroyd, Chase, Murray, Carvey, Sandler, Farley, etc. SCTV launched Moranis, Candy, etc. I have to think that Carlin had plenty of offers, but turned them down if he thought they were beneath him. There have been plenty of high profile stand ups who didn't translate into leading (movie) roles: Rickles, Newhart, Miller, Hicks, Stewart, Cross, etc. It would seem that TV is a better vehicle for stand ups, Seinfeld, Cosby, and Newhart had some of the best shows ever, but never had a hit movie (save for Uptown Saturday Night).
 
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Hicks I'll give you

Don Rickles was in one of my favorite movies of all time Kelly's Heros

I rever Dennis Miller as somewhat of a god

Newhart had some tv show

For Carlins fame maybe it's suprising because he was the one guy who didn't sell out

I don't like David Crosses stand but I love Mr Show and Arrested Develpment.
 
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DaytonBuck;1363755; said:
Hicks I'll give you

Don Rickles was in one of my favorite movies of all time Kelly's Heros

I rever Dennis Miller as somewhat of a god

Newhart had some tv show

For Carlins fame maybe it's suprising because he was the one guy who didn't sell out

I don't like David Crosses stand but I love Mr Show and Arrested Develpment.

I was talking starring movie roles. IMO, Rickles is perhaps the greatest comedian of all time. He had plenty of supporting TV and movie roles, but no lead roles, that I know of. Ditto Newhart, Miller, and Cross. Oddly, Cosby (who I would put as tied for best with Rickles) had supporting (I Spy) and lead TV roles, and had some success in movies (co-lead with Portier in a couple movies), but in his peak, he never managed to star in a good movie (see Ghost Dad and Leonard 6). Murphy was a star from the beginning, but his stand up resume was not greater than Cosby's. Now that I think about it, Pryor had a good deal of success in movies (Silver Streak, Stir Crazy, The Toy). Jackie Gleason was a giant of the small screen, but had few big movie roles (The Hustler).
 
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generaladm;1363766; said:
I was talking starring movie roles. IMO, Rickles is perhaps the greatest comedian of all time. He had plenty of supporting TV and movie roles, but no lead roles, that I know of. Ditto Newhart, Miller, and Cross. Oddly, Cosby (who I would put as tied for best with Rickles) had supporting (I Spy) and lead TV roles, and had some success in movies (co-lead with Portier in a couple movies), but in his peak, he never managed to star in a good movie (see Ghost Dad and Leonard 6). Murphy was a star from the beginning, but his stand up resume was not greater than Cosby's. Now that I think about it, Pryor had a good deal of success in movies (Silver Streak, Stir Crazy, The Toy). Jackie Gleason was a giant of the small screen, but had few big movie roles (The Hustler).

So I see your favorite movie is Leonard part 6. Sorry longing running inside joke.
 
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Basebuck;1363735; said:
Yes, but Eddie Murphy had the "goofy" mainstream shtick as well. See SNL days .
Carlin was straight vulgar/controversial all the time. That's all he had.

Vulgar? Hmmmmm. I never saw it that way. Carlin was booked in all the right places long before his 'seven words you can't say on radio' bit. He was never slapstick like Jery Lewis, never as caustic as Shelly Berman. His closest peer IMO would have been Bob Newhart and his telephone conversations. You couldn't do vulgar anywhwere outside of Vegas in the mid 60s, and even in Vegas it had to be for some reason other than just the defiance of norms.

Taste is taste, but much of his work was centered on his extenisve study and understanding of language. Every disc jockey wanabee (count me in that group) in the 60's could recite Carlin's "W- I- N- O, wonderful Wino, with Al Sleet the hippy dippy weatherman" -- it's going to get very dark this evening, then sometime around 6 am it will start to lighten up -- or his rip on the predecessor to Extreme Makever, Queen for a Day. Or his observation that 'white' language was being supplanted by 'black' language; "put a bunch of black boys in a white Catholic high school -- three weeks later you don't hear the black kids saying something like, "Hey, what do you think about Friday night, can we beat St. Al's? Instead it's the white boys saying, hey, Bro, he got a funky jump shot."

He was always keenly aware of irony and duplicity in society and to me, aways made the connection between mind and heart.
 
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cincibuck;1363775; said:
Vulgar? Hmmmmm. I never saw it that way. Carlin was booked in all the right places long before his 'seven words you can't say on radio' bit. He was never slapstick like Jery Lewis, never as caustic as Shelly Berman. His closest peer IMO would have been Bob Newhart and his telephone conversations. You couldn't do vulgar anywhwere outside of Vegas in the mid 60s, and even in Vegas it had to be for some reason other than just the defiance of norms.

Taste is taste, but much of his work was centered on his extenisve study and understanding of language. Every disc jockey wanabee (count me in that group) in the 60's could do recite Carlin's "W- I- N- O, wonderful Wino, with Al Sleet the hippy dippy weatherman" -- it's going to get very dark this evening, then sometime around 6 am it will start to lighten up -- or his rip on the predecessor to Extreme Makever, Queen for a Day. Or his observation that 'white' language was being supplanted by 'black' language; "put a bunch of black boys in a white Catholic high school -- three weeks later you don't hear the black kids saying something like, "Hey, what do you think about Friday night, can we beat St. Al's? Instead it's the white boys saying, hey, Bro, he got a funky jump shot."

He was always keenly aware of irony and duplicity in society and to me, aways made the connection between mind and heart.


No Joke, everyone his position got sucked into tv/movie why didn't he?
 
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SNL didn't launch Carlin, that's true.. Carlin launched SNL (He was the 1st host) :biggrin:

Anyway, to the question - Carlin was in several TV shows and movies. He was in the Bill and Ted's series of movies as you may recall. But, he also was the "leading man" on the "George Carlin show" a short lived show from the early 90s. He also played the leading role of a PBS kids series "Shining time station"

He also wrote a couple books (which were really just his jokes in written form)

Anyway, here's his imdb page - you can see what he did for yourselves.
 
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