I'm about sick of all these kids who didn't get recruited by Ohio State. Go pout in the offseason you whiners.
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I didn't get recruited by Ohio State either, and I'm not bitter.
I've got a few years of eligibility left and a beer gut, maybe I could be a kicker at FSU or Michigan?
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JXC
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With Saturday being Senior Day...i had a thought. I think that a guy like Santonio Holmes should be recognized on Senior day. He IS a Senior...he just has one more year of elegability...since he was a Red Shirt Freshman. Now I really don't know much about his education status...but I think that IF a player a) has been enrolled for 4 years and b) is scheduled to graduate that spring, that he should be reoginzed somehow for that achivement.
He only isn't a senior because he Redshirted his freshman year...that doesn't mean that during that year he didn't practice with the team every day, and it doesn't mean he didn't go to class. Now, the only tough part in this I see is how do we know which guys to recognize and which not to, since some leave early, and some don't. I don't really know a way around that, other than the player making a decision early, but that would be stupid since you don't want a player to be making decisions like that until the season is over.
My point is...Santonio Holmes is as much of a senior as I ever was. He's in the same class as Hawk, Mangold, Sims, Kudla, Carpenter, Hawk, Everett, and Salley. They will all be honored this Saturday, and their only difference is they saw limited playing time their first year, while Holmes didn't. Sure there are a lot of JRs right now that have been with the team 4 years...Zwick and Smith along with many others...but all of them will be back next year. So it doesn't take anything away from them to wait until next year to call them Seniors. But I would say Santonio Holmes is as much as senior as anybody on the offense. He has been the leader on the field and on the sidelines all year. He should be recognized...somehow.
So since it would be really hard to honor him Saturday since he hasn't made a decision yet, nor should he...the one way I thought of to regonize players like this is that if a player who leaves early, but did spend 4 years with the team, graduates that spring, they are allowed to come back the following year on Senior day and be recoginzed. So for example, Santonio Holmes would come back next year for the Michigan game and be announced with the other Seniors like Troy Smith and Youboty and so on...I can't see anything wrong with that.
He only isn't a senior because he Redshirted his freshman year...that doesn't mean that during that year he didn't practice with the team every day, and it doesn't mean he didn't go to class. Now, the only tough part in this I see is how do we know which guys to recognize and which not to, since some leave early, and some don't. I don't really know a way around that, other than the player making a decision early, but that would be stupid since you don't want a player to be making decisions like that until the season is over.
My point is...Santonio Holmes is as much of a senior as I ever was. He's in the same class as Hawk, Mangold, Sims, Kudla, Carpenter, Hawk, Everett, and Salley. They will all be honored this Saturday, and their only difference is they saw limited playing time their first year, while Holmes didn't. Sure there are a lot of JRs right now that have been with the team 4 years...Zwick and Smith along with many others...but all of them will be back next year. So it doesn't take anything away from them to wait until next year to call them Seniors. But I would say Santonio Holmes is as much as senior as anybody on the offense. He has been the leader on the field and on the sidelines all year. He should be recognized...somehow.
So since it would be really hard to honor him Saturday since he hasn't made a decision yet, nor should he...the one way I thought of to regonize players like this is that if a player who leaves early, but did spend 4 years with the team, graduates that spring, they are allowed to come back the following year on Senior day and be recoginzed. So for example, Santonio Holmes would come back next year for the Michigan game and be announced with the other Seniors like Troy Smith and Youboty and so on...I can't see anything wrong with that.
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Think about how stupid it would be for him to be honored only to come back again next year...does anyone deserve two Senior Days? No. Hey, D'Andrea is a senior also and he's not being recognized. Senior Day is for those who are playing their last game of eligibility ever at home.
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BuckEyeDr
Rotunda Psycho
Like this idea. Players like Santonio have given their all for 4 years and deserve to be recognized.
However, what do we do with players who leave after 3 years and are model student-athletes; classroom, community, and football field? They just happen to be ready for the next level. Would we invite Orlando Pace back for senior day? Sounds good. But would we invite back Boston or Katz? How would you make that judgement?
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AirForceBuck
No mercy
IMO, Smith will again - for a 5th straight game - throw for over 200 yards. I just dont see the 116th pass rush team in the nation causing too much havoc on the 2nd best center and the tall trees we have blocking. OSU has seen better than the NW front four. This game will help Smith keep up his pass eff. stats for another week and bust out some more trickery before Michigan week (ie. Ginn at QB).
On the other side, we lead the Big Ten in sacks as a team (36) and have the best 2 sackers in Kudla and Hawk. This could be a loooooong day for the pruple warriors from Chi-Town.
And if we are talking about stats that should be on the up-keep this Saturday, lets talking special teams. After a mediocre - to sloppy play these past two weeks (degraded by muffed catches, missed assignments), we should hopefully be back to normal before Michigan week. Among 117 ranked Division I-A teams, Ohio State is the only one in the top 40 in the five special-team categories the NCAA ranks: net punting, punt returns, kickoff returns, punt coverage and kickoff coverage. The NCAA does not rank field goal percentage, but Huston is tops in the Big Ten at 84.6 percent, and his 40 touchbacks on 57 kickoffs likely would rank close to the top, too.
Now, Forget the rankings for a moment, and just consider the key special-teams moments already this season: Two Ginn touchdown returns, stuffing an Illinois fake punt, preventing Big Ten-leading kickoff returner Jakari Wallace of Minnesota from returning even once, and of course, the two blocked field goals against Michigan State.
On the other side, we lead the Big Ten in sacks as a team (36) and have the best 2 sackers in Kudla and Hawk. This could be a loooooong day for the pruple warriors from Chi-Town.
And if we are talking about stats that should be on the up-keep this Saturday, lets talking special teams. After a mediocre - to sloppy play these past two weeks (degraded by muffed catches, missed assignments), we should hopefully be back to normal before Michigan week. Among 117 ranked Division I-A teams, Ohio State is the only one in the top 40 in the five special-team categories the NCAA ranks: net punting, punt returns, kickoff returns, punt coverage and kickoff coverage. The NCAA does not rank field goal percentage, but Huston is tops in the Big Ten at 84.6 percent, and his 40 touchbacks on 57 kickoffs likely would rank close to the top, too.
Now, Forget the rankings for a moment, and just consider the key special-teams moments already this season: Two Ginn touchdown returns, stuffing an Illinois fake punt, preventing Big Ten-leading kickoff returner Jakari Wallace of Minnesota from returning even once, and of course, the two blocked field goals against Michigan State.
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