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Game Thread Game Seven: #1 Ohio State 38, Michigan State 7 (10/14/06)

Mili, I think the Buckeyes are coming loaded for bear. Michigan State is a good football team in the skills department, but the leadership and coaching doesn't seem to be there. These guys can be very dangerous if think they can catch us if they hang with us into the second half. I think the message to the team this week is that Tresselball don't play that.
 
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BuckeyeNation27;631490; said:
My only concern is how well we tackle Caulcrick. If I was MSU, I'd run him all day long.
I agree, any competent coaching staff would run Caulcrick 25 times at a young run defense that is prone to miss gap assignments and tackles. Luckily for us, we're playing MSU, though. :cheers:
 
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Blade

BUCKEYES NOTEBOOK
Ohio State, Michigan State QBs are mutual friends


By MATT MARKEY
BLADE SPORTS WRITER


COLUMBUS ? Troy Smith and Drew Stanton met at the back of the line. About six years ago, the two were high school football players invited to a prestigious camp for quarterbacks.

But the pair were clearly not the guys everyone came to see.

?We were the last two invited, I think, and we kind of hooked up together,? said Stanton, who will lead Michigan State against Smith and the top-ranked Buckeyes on Saturday.

?We were there, but everyone was talking about some of the other guys. I don?t think they were expecting much from us, so we were way under the radar. But Troy and I struck up a friendship at that camp, and it?s lasted through the years.?

Stanton (6-3, 230) led Farmington Hills Harrison to back-to-back Michigan state championships, completing 234 of 357 career passes (.655) for 5,293 yards and 58 touchdowns.

Smith (6-1, 215) had much more modest numbers, playing his first two years at Lakewood St. Edward before transferring to Cleveland Glenville as a senior. At Glenville he threw for 969 yards and 12 touchdowns while leading his team to the state playoffs.

Stanton said that with the spotlight on several quarterbacks who were regarded as the real ?studs? in the group, he and Smith had their competitive fires stoked by the lack of attention they received. The fact that both went on to lengthy tenures in the Big Ten tells him that most of the experts were probably wrong about them.

?I think we reacted to that whole thing like any athlete would react,? Stanton said. ?We were just more determined to show people that we could play the position and play it pretty well. Over the last couple of seasons, Troy has certainly shown what kind of quality college quarterback he is, and I think I?ve probably done pretty decent, too.?

Smith said he and Stanton have maintained close contact over the years, despite the considerable amount of bad blood between their two schools. While jointly facing some adversity, they formed a bond at that quarterback camp, and it has lasted.

?He was my roommate at the Elite Eleven camp, and night in and night out, he was the guy I was looking at,? Smith said about Stanton. ?It was a great experience for both of us, and it has definitely paid off. I talk to him all the time.?

MOVING THE CHAINS: When Ohio State needs a first down, junior wide receiver Anthony Gonzalez is frequently the way to get there. Gonzalez, the Buckeyes? second-leading receiver with 27 catches this season, has caught 24 of those for first downs. With one more catch, Gonzalez will equal his output from last season. With at least six games to play, Gonzalez has already bettered his yardage total (404 to 373) and touchdown total (4 to 3) from 2005.

UNDER FIRE: Michigan State coach John L. Smith, feeling the heat this season at 3-3 after going 5-7 in 2004 and 5-6 last season, got a rousing endorsement from Ohio State coach Jim Tressel, who will oppose Smith this Saturday when the Buckeyes meet the Spartans.

?The thing that no one will ever convince me of is that John L. Smith is not a winner,? Tressel said. ?The guy has won 131 games or something like that. There?s not that many people that have coached this game that have won that many games, and in the number of different venues that he?s been in.?

Smith is 21-21 at Michigan State, after going 8-5 in his first season in 2003 after losing to Nebraska in the Alamo Bowl. The Spartans finished 5-7 in 2004 and 5-6 in 2005. Smith came to East Lansing from Louisville, where he guided the Cardinals to bowl games in each of his five seasons. He is 131-81 overall in a career that also includes stops at Idaho and Utah State.

Tressel?s Youngstown State team beat Smith?s Idaho team in the 1993 Division I-AA playoffs, 35-16.

LAST WIN: Michigan State has not beaten the Buckeyes since 1999 when the Spartans took a 23-7 win in East Lansing. The year before, Michigan State stunned then-No. 1 Ohio State by a 28-24 score in Ohio Stadium, costing the Buckeyes a shot at an unbeaten season and a national championship. The Spartans have a history of giving OSU trouble when the Buckeyes are No. 1, also bumping off top-ranked Ohio State in 1974 with a 16-13 win in East Lansing.

PATTERSON/SURGERY: Senior defensive tackle David Patterson had arthroscopic surgery on his right knee Tuesday, according to published reports. Ohio State coach Jim Tressel said that same day that Patterson would miss this weekend?s game at Michigan State after being injured last Saturday against Bowling Green, but Tressel made no mention of surgery. Patterson?s injury has been diagnosed as a sprained knee ligament, and he is expected to miss one or two games.
 
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BuckeyeNation27;631490; said:
My only concern is how well we tackle Caulcrick. If I was MSU, I'd run him all day long.

Particularly considering the absence of David Patterson. I truely feel like this will be our toughest game yet (of course, I felt Iowa would be our toughest game before we played them). Our offense needs to be extremely efficient, keeping the ball for long drives to keep the D off of the field. This is MSUs shot to make their entire season ... at home. I'm glad to see guys like Berry emphasizing to the team how quickly a game can get away.

:oh: :io:
 
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Dryden;631504; said:
I agree, any competent coaching staff would run Caulcrick 25 times at a young run defense that is prone to miss gap assignments and tackles.

I agree. But this is indeed Johnelle Smith.

Caulcrick will probably get 4 carries for 65 yards, and then won't see the field in the 2nd half. Johnelle will explain it at the presser that he felt they needed to get around the ends with the running game, and not try to go up the middle so much. Then someone will ask in that same context why Stanton got 17 carries for 85 yards and a season ending broken collar-bone all while just running off tackle from the Shotgun Option, and where in the hell was AJ Jimmerson?

Johnelle will slap himself, blurt out some nonsensical crap like "I LIKE BLUEBERRY WAFFLES AND PUPPY DOGS" and walk away from the podium scratching himself like a ringtail monkey.

Seriously, Johnelle is cracking before our eyes. Bring up some Med School Grad Candidates this weekend. Observing Johnelle should be worth more Psychology credits than any full semester internship at Bellevue.
 
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SufferinSpartan;631766; said:
I agree. But this is indeed Johnelle Smith.

Caulcrick will probably get 4 carries for 65 yards, and then won't see the field in the 2nd half. Johnelle will explain it at the presser that he felt they needed to get around the ends with the running game, and not try to go up the middle so much. Then someone will ask in that same context why Stanton got 17 carries for 85 yards and a season ending broken collar-bone all while just running off tackle from the Shotgun Option, and where in the hell was AJ Jimmerson?

Johnelle will slap himself, blurt out some nonsensical crap like "I LIKE BLUEBERRY WAFFLES AND PUPPY DOGS" and walk away from the podium scratching himself like a ringtail monkey.

Seriously, Johnelle is cracking before our eyes. Bring up some Med School Grad Candidates this weekend. Observing Johnelle should be worth more Psychology credits than any full semester internship at Bellevue.

This stuff is really funny. They need you on the MSU site.
 
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Steve19;631926; said:
This stuff is really funny. They need you on the MSU site.

I am on that site. www.spartantailgate.com.

I am however, rather under the radar over there though.

At that site, if you something good about MSU football, you get slammed by the DE's (Demand Excellence'ers) for painting a rosy picture out of a hopeless situation. They say we should fire everyone, and get Pete Carroll here ASAP. Nothing short of that, and winning BCS Bowls yearly should be tolerated.

If you say something bad about MSU football, you get slammed by the SB's (Sunshine Blowers) who find "moral victory" everywhere, and Big Ten Championships are always just around the corner. "ALL IS WELL" as Kevin Bacon says in "Animal House". It's always a "five year turnaround plan" that we are in the middle of. ALWAYS IN THE MIDDLE.
 
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SufferinSpartan;631943; said:
I am on that site. www.spartantailgate.com.

I am however, rather under the radar over there though.

At that site, if you something good about MSU football, you get slammed by the DE's (Demand Excellence'ers) for painting a rosy picture out of a hopeless situation. They say we should fire everyone, and get Pete Carroll here ASAP. Nothing short of that, and winning BCS Bowls yearly should be tolerated.

If you say something bad about MSU football, you get slammed by the SB's (Sunshine Blowers) who find "moral victory" everywhere, and Big Ten Championships are always just around the corner. "ALL IS WELL" as Kevin Bacon says in "Animal House". It's always a "five year turnaround plan" that we are in the middle of. ALWAYS IN THE MIDDLE.
So that site gets run about like the Sparties play a game? :biggrin:
 
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Frivolous posts about who has more fivolous posts, the irony machine is about to explode.

And now for something completely different:

I think the weather will have a bigger impact on our offense than MSU's defense, which will keep the game closer than it should be. Hopefully we can drive it down their throats all night on the ground.
 
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Best Buckeye, a word to the wise (particularly 2b)-

Conform: 1 : to be similar or identical; also : to be in agreement or harmony -- used with to or with <changes that conform with our plans>
2 a : to be obedient or compliant -- usually used with to <conform to another's wishes> b : to act in accordance with prevailing standards or customs <the pressure to conform>

This isn't a pay site. It - including any number of wonderful features - were built by many long time posters. We are a clique, for want of a better word. You are butting heads with that clique. Some of us are abrasive, but we earned it. You will not win. You should not win. Conform until you earn your stipes and earn some leeway. Otherwise go elsewhere.


As for the weather. This game scared me a lot at the start of the season. But the 1998 upset was about heart. MSU doesn't have the heart to win this game. Even if they went in thinking they did it would break down as the game wore on. We want this one more and that will tell the tale regardless of what kind of game the weather dictates. It could be close (many of JTs blow outs are close) but I have zero doubt as to the outcome.
 
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