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Game Thread Game One: Ohio State 38, Youngstown St. 6 (final)

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MililaniBuckeye;806944; said:
Playing a I-AA playoff semi-finalist is worse than playing a 5-7 MAC team? :roll1:
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Lord, yes.

And Florida is the exception to the rule. I guess we'll just conveniently forget the whole debate that raged about if Florida deserved to be in the BCS Championship game or not. One of the reasons people felt Florida didn't deserve to be there was their 1-AA game. As for Nebraska, they play Nickle & Dime State every year it seems, and they rightfully get slammed for it.

If YSU is moving up, then fine. If not, we don't need to schedule them more than once. Unless we win by at least six touchdowns, many will consider it a loss.

When we won the MNC in '02, we didn't schedule any 1-AA teams, and we played 12 regular season games. And yes, I know that was an freak occurance in scheduling, but it still happened.

What's next, are we going to go Notre Dame's route and try to defeat the service acadamies? Hell, at least they're 1-A. And we already have Army booked...
 
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Smooth Olaf;807105; said:
And Florida is the exception to the rule. I guess we'll just conveniently forget the whole debate that raged about if Florida deserved to be in the BCS Championship game or not. One of the reasons people felt Florida didn't deserve to be there was their 1-AA game....
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Sorry, but I don't recall any "raging debates" against Florida's worthiness of being on the same field as us (and we all know how well they proved they did).
 
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RhodeIslandBuck;806946; said:
Playing a Div-IAA team didn't hurt Florida last year.
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I very easily could have had hurt Florida last year; if had USC not lost a 2nd game to UCLA on 2 Dec 06. (i.e. USC would have been in the National Championship game in lieu of Florida). With one loss each, the pollsters had USC over Florida based in part on USC's tougher non-conference schedule (i .e. games with Arkansas, Nebraska, and Notre Dame).

Florida playing and beating 1AA Western Carolina 62-0 was a joke.

:oh: :io:
 
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ScriptOhio;807118; said:
I very easily could have had hurt Florida last year; if had USC not lost a 2nd game to UCLA on 2 Dec 06. (i.e. USC would have been in the National Championship game in lieu of Florida). With one loss each, the pollsters had USC over Florida based in part on USC's tougher non-conference schedule (i .e. games with Arkansas, Nebraska, and Notre Dame).

Florida playing and beating 1AA Western Carolina 62-0 was a joke.

:oh: :io:
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I think that their repeated poor performances against weak conference teams was more of a reason for that debate than their one game against a 1-AA team.
 
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ScriptOhio;807118; said:
I very easily could have had hurt Florida last year; if had USC not lost a 2nd game to UCLA on 2 Dec 06. (i.e. USC would have been in the National Championship game in lieu of Florida). With one loss each, the pollsters had USC over Florida based in part on USC's tougher non-conference schedule (i .e. games with Arkansas, Nebraska, and Notre Dame).

Florida playing and beating 1AA Western Carolina 62-0 was a joke.

:oh: :io:
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Actually, USC probably would've been picked over Florida more likely due to the fact they won the national title in 2004, were in the national title game in 2005, and have been the biggest media darling since 2003. Florida's playing a I-AA team to fill a gap caused by the jump from an 11-game to a 12-game schedule would've been virtually a non-factor.

bigballin2987;807121; said:
I think that their repeated poor performances against weak conference teams was more of a reason for that debate than their one game against a 1-AA team.
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Good point. Also, on the flip side of the coin, winning the strongest conference in college football (according to the media) would negate playing a I-AA team.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;807132; said:
Good point. Also, on the flip side of the coin, winning the strongest conference in college football (according to the media) would negate playing a I-AA team.
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Correct. I was not debating that the SEC was not the strongest in the country last year, just saying that their performances against South Carolina at home, Vanderbilt, and OOC Florida State looked worse than their scheduling of Western Carolina.
 
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Hey this isn't rocket science! EVERYONE will be scheduling the twelth teams from now on, and I don't think they will all be looking at the powerhouses for the game either..... What is so difficult about this? Schedule 12 games, look to help out the IN-STATE schools. I have no problems with this because it will not only be the BUCKS doing it. We will be playing the tougher schools, while the ND's of the world will be playing more than 1 patsy. I (after this season) would put our schedule up against anyones.

:oh: GO BUCKS! :io:
 
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well if you look at all the teams we have to play besides YSU (Va Tech, Miami, USC, Oklahoma, Marshall, and Washington) I think the boys deserve a break. Sooner or later it'll catch up to you if you play those teams to go along with teams that from time to time can be very good ball clubs. Now this isn't a slight against YSU cuz its great that they're making the jump to IA soon, but its all about getting teams to come to the shoe' without no return to their schools field, and YSU gives us that option.

On a side note what we're doing with scheduling is awesome.. We are the only school that doesn't seem to mind putting our season on the line from the get go and playing not only BCS teams, but teams that will usually make the BCS bowls. I can't wait till we play USC and also Va Tech..
 
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Rivalry with Florida

I know, it is a bad idea to "lock in" a non-conference team to play every year and will never happen. "Every so often" games against traditional powerhouses like Texas, Notre Dame, Miami, and USC, etc. are the way to go. The only rivalry Ohio State needs is with Michigan, but it is an interesting article.

A rivalry born?
Ohio State-Florida should become new USC-Notre


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The Florida-Ohio State rivalry started with the Gators pasting the Buckeyes in January's BCS title game.

I was looking at the Ohio State football schedules for the next four years and noticed something was missing.

These are the Buckeyes' upcoming non-conference games:
2007: Youngstown State, Akron, Washington, Kent State
2008: Youngstown State, Ohio, USC, Troy
2009: Army, USC, Toledo, New Mexico State
2010: Marshall, Miami, Army, opponent to be announced.

Yes, those USC games look good. So do the match-ups with Miami, Washington and Marshall.

As for the Youngstown States and the Akrons -- well, no college diet is complete without a few cupcakes. But the team you really want to see there is conspicuous by its absence.
Florida.

Is there any team that Buckeyes fans want to beat more than the Gators right now? And is there any team that Florida fans would take more joy in beating one more time than Ohio State?
Through luck and bracketology, Florida and Ohio State have been handed a rare opportunity to start a great intersectional rivalry.

Most of our great college sports rivalries depend on proximity (Duke-North Carolina, Auburn-Alabama) or at least being in the same conference (Michigan-Ohio State, Georgia-Florida).
The exception is USC-Notre Dame.

College sports really has nothing else like it. They have been playing each other since 1926, and at this point, the series is a singular phenomenon. The existence of the rivalry enhances the status of both programs.

Ohio State-Florida could be like that. With the events of the past few months, they have the chance to catch up in a hurry.

The set-up couldn't be better. To have those same teams that met in the football championship meet again in the basketball finals -- and to have Florida trounce Ohio State once again -- is the kind of scripting you generally see in professional wrestling.

After two frustrating losses in title games, Ohio State fans now want to beat Florida at least as badly as they want to beat Michigan -- if not more.

Florida, which wants to keep its program on the upward trajectory, should be only too happy to give the Buckeyes the opportunity.

The athletics directors of Florida and Ohio State need to find a way to capitalize on this fervor as soon as possible. Move games. Break agreements. Pay the penalties.

Entire article: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/bill_syken/04/05/scorecard.daily/1.html
 
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I am in the camp that our schedule is too soft. YSU should not have been scheduled until they were 1A. Kent State in week four (or whichever week) is a no-win game.

I would love to see a much tougher schedule (like FL or ND in Kent State's slot) and then when you have multiple no-loss teams, tOSU might benefit from playing a tougher schedule.

Also, tough games are more likely to get national exposure, which is good for recruiting.

Could you go out and recruit kids and entice them by saying, "hey look - in 2007 we are playing YSU and Kent State!"

I would rather show a schedule with Kent State (or some MAC school as the opener) and then Wash State, FL, ND, Oklahoma, Rutgers, WV, BC, Clemson.....etc.

Less than 5 months to the opener!! Let's go Bucks!
 
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Put me in the camp that thinks it is a joke for one of the top programs in the country to play a 1-AA squad. Sure, it is the school that Tressel did very well at, and I know that he wants to give them some money (for playing OSU) to repay what they did for him. But, this game will not prepare any of the players for the season......hell, the scout team has better players (talent wise) than a Youngstown St. or any other 1-AA school. I'm not downing the players at YSU, it's just a simple fact. OSU has nothing to gain by playing YSU, except an easy victory in the win column. They'd be better off having an intersquad scrimmage in front of 104,000 people.
 
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daddyphatsacs;807445; said:
Put me in the camp that thinks it is a joke for one of the top programs in the country to play a 1-AA squad. Sure, it is the school that Tressel did very well at, and I know that he wants to give them some money (for playing OSU) to repay what they did for him. But, this game will not prepare any of the players for the season......hell, the scout team has better players (talent wise) than a Youngstown St. or any other 1-AA school. I'm not downing the players at YSU, it's just a simple fact. OSU has nothing to gain by playing YSU, except an easy victory in the win column. They'd be better off having an intersquad scrimmage in front of 104,000 people.
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I concur Daddy, The money staying in Ohio is the only good thing about this game. Plus the area exposure.
 
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