Game Thread Game Five: Penn State 17, Ohio State 10 (Final)

Bucklion · Oct 3, 2005

scarletngrey77 said:
I like how they think that King and Derrick Williams are the second coming of Jesus Christ.

And how their linebackers are better than ours.

And how their offense will have 30 on us.

And how they claim they have the better kicking game.

And how we cant run the football at all, period.

Michael Robinson is actually better than Vince Young, has anyone else noticed this???

I think we beat the bastards by at least 20, they are so high on the Penn State kool-aid, just becuase they beat an one-dimensional overrated Minnesota team...

No offense dude, but I kinda laugh at some of these things...from both sides. For example, Penn State claiming that their LBs are as good as OSU are downright laughable, but hey, wasn't a freshman Ted Ginn the second coming of Jesus Christ too? Now before anyone goes Apeshit, I'm IN NO WAY knocking on Ginn, but we all talk up our team from time to time, and sometimes a little too much...what do you expect them to say? "Please don't show up, we'll forfeit"? So they're excited about being 5-0...who cares? Think they don't have just as valid an argument about Iowa being overrated as Minnesota?

The good thing about this one is that it can and will be decided on the field. What they claim or we claim doesn't matter in the end.

Magua · Oct 3, 2005

College Gameday In Happy Valley?

Okay, I dont know if this has been posted yet, but I did not find it. But, does anyone know where College Gameday is going to be this weekend? I know the Red River Blowout has seen it the past like 5 years, even though every year is a dissapointment. PSU is undefeated and seem to be "returning to glory" before JoePa retires. They have a massive stadium and a just overall great atmosphere there. I truely dont see this game getting out of hand either, year in and year out PSU and OSU play each other TOUGH. They also haven't been to Happy Valley in quite a while, and on top of that its a night game.

Whats everyone think?

Dont Georgia and Tennessee also play this weekend too btw?

Golferdow01 · Oct 3, 2005

Thought I saw in the Penn St/OSU thread someone say it was gonna be at Happy Valley

Magua · Oct 3, 2005

Yeah scimming through it now I see a couple people mention gameday being there, but does anyone have a link or anything? I dont feel like spending 20mins on ESPN.com :(

BuckeyeNation27 · Oct 3, 2005

I don't think it will be announced until either Monday or Tuesday....but I saw on some site that Chris Fowler has a blog and on it he said he would love to go back to HV, since they haven't been there since 99 or something like that. I'll go look for a link.

edit: I guess his blog is on ESPNinsider. Anybody who has that can read it and let us know, then go kill yourself. :p

scUM Buster · Oct 3, 2005

BuckeyeNation27 said:
I'll go look for a link.

Hey, be careful out there.

Magua · Oct 3, 2005

BuckeyeNation27 said:
I don't think it will be announced until either Monday or Tuesday....but I saw on some site that Chris Fowler has a blog and on it he said he would love to go back to HV, since they haven't been there since 99 or something like that. I'll go look for a link.

edit: I guess his blog is on ESPNinsider. Anybody who has that can read it and let us know, then go kill yourself. :p

Yeah I went there and searched thru the CFB page and saw the Fowler Weblog, but you need insider to read it all, and from what someone said thats where they read it. It'd be nice if someone here could copy/paste what Fowler said, but remember to "PS: i dont have insider, my cousins friends' brother has it and I asked him to check!"

JXC · Oct 3, 2005

Gameday should be there. This all of a sudden becomes the biggest game next week, and maybe the biggest Big 10 game of the year.

BuckeyeNation27 · Oct 3, 2005

I don't think it's better than Georgia/Tenn or even the Anual Texas Chokejob....but I've started to realize ESPN doesn't just pick the best game; it picks places they havent been yet, places they haven't been in a while, places they would like to go......

OSUBasketballJunkie · Oct 3, 2005

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Date: Oct 2, 2005

Here is a look at the storied rivalry between Ohio State and Penn State, which will reach its 21st edition with Saturday's game at Beaver Stadium (7:45 p.m., ESPN). The Buckeyes evened the all-time series at 10-10 with last year's 21-10 win at Ohio Stadium.
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When Penn State joined the Big Ten in 1993, Big Ten football fans eagerly anticipated a number of new match-ups -- most notably Penn State-Ohio State and Penn State-Michigan -- on an annual basis. As it has turned out, PSU is one of Ohio State’s two “protected” rivals (along with Michigan, obviously). For the foreseeable future, Ohio State and Penn State will play every year.
In terms of Penn State-Ohio State, it could be known as “The New Border War.” Ohio State evened the all-time series at 10-10 with last year's 21-10 win in Columbus. Penn State still clings to a 4-3 series lead in University Park, Pa., where Saturday's game will be played (7:45 p.m., ESPN). OSU now holds a 7-5 edge in Columbus, while Penn State won the only game played on a neutral field (the 1980 Fiesta Bowl).
OSU leads the Big Ten series since 1993 at 8-4. Since Penn State joined the conference, the teams have combined for five Big Ten championships (PSU in 1994; OSU in 1993, 1996, 1998 and 2002). Each time, the side winning the conference won this game on its way to the title.
Of course, Penn State is synonymous with Joe Paterno and Ohio State with Woody Hayes. But Paterno’s record against Ohio State is 6-10. Hayes’ OSU teams faced Penn State six times between 1956 and 1978, winning only twice. Head to head, Hayes’ teams were 2-1 against Paterno’s with OSU winning in 1975 and 1976 before dropping the 1978 season opener to the Nittany Lions.
This Saturday's game will mark the first night game between the two schools.
Here is a look back at the 20 previous games in this series (game day AP rankings in parentheses after team‘s name):
* Nov. 16, 1912, at Columbus: Penn State 37, Ohio State 0 -- OSU trailed 37-0 in the second half when OSU coach John Richards pulled his team off the field because of PSU’s excessive rough play and an on-field fight. Eugene “Shorty” Miller was the star of the match for Penn State.
The “official” score of the game was 1-0 because of the forfeit, and many people who bet the game on a spread that favored Penn State by 20 or 25 points refused to pay because of it.
A Columbus Citizen column summed up the whole fiasco: “It goes without saying that no future games will be scheduled between Penn State and Ohio State. It’s probably just as well for Ohio.”

PSU ended the year 8-0, while Richards was out after one 6-3 season at OSU. * Oct. 20, 1956, at Columbus: Penn State 7, Ohio State (5) 6 -- Coach Rip Engle’s Nittany Lions were a three-touchdown underdog to Hayes’ Buckeyes. Neither team scored until the fourth quarter, when PSU’s Bruce Gilmore scored from 1 yard out with 3:35 left.
OSU hit a pair of long passes from Jim Roseboro to Leo Brown, setting up Don Clark’s 3-yard TD run. OSU was penalized for having 12 men on the field on the PAT, which was subsequently missed. PSU ran out the remaining 1:58, picking up a first down on its ensuing possession.
“I lost the ball game,” Hayes told reporters. His Buckeyes finished 6-3, while PSU ended up 6-2-1.
* Nov. 9 1963 at Columbus: Penn State 10, Ohio State (10) 7 -- Engle could not believe his luck seven years later as another place kick helped decide the game. This time, PSU’s Ron Coates made a 23-yard field goal in the third quarter.
“I never dreamed lightning could strike twice in the same place,” said Engle, whose team ended up 7-3.
Paul Warfield scored OSU’s only touchdown. Matt Snell had 100 yards rushing on 27 carries for OSU, which finished 5-3-1 overall and second in the Big Ten.
* Nov. 7, 1964, at Columbus: Penn State 27, Ohio State (2) 0 -- The PSU defense dominated No. 2-ranked Ohio State, stopping the Buckeyes to the tune of minus-14 yards total offense in the first half. OSU did not get a first down until a 15-yard PSU penalty in the third quarter.
PSU, which ended up 6-4, outgained OSU 349-63. The loss was OSU’s worst at Ohio Stadium in 13 years under Hayes. Amazingly, OSU moved into first place in the Big Ten that day as Purdue defeated Michigan State. The Bucks then beat Northwestern 10-0 but ended the year with a 10-0 loss to Michigan and finished 7-2 overall and second in the conference.

* Sept. 20, 1975, at Columbus: Ohio State (3) 17, Penn State (7) 9 -- OSU finally got past Penn State, winning on the rushing exploits of fullback Pete Johnson (23 carries, 111 yards, two TDs) and halfback Archie Griffin (24 carries, 128 yards). Griffin made a one-handed catch of a 23-yard Cornelius Greene pass that led to Johnson’s second TD, which put the game away.
“That was almost an impossible catch,” said Hayes, whose team finished 11-1 and won the Big Ten but missed out on a national title after a Rose Bowl loss to UCLA. PSU’s Paterno, facing OSU as a head coach for the first time, saw his team end up 9-3.
* Sept. 18, 1976, at University Park, Pa.: Ohio State (2) 12, Penn State (7) 7 -- Ohio State won its first trip to Happy Valley before a Beaver Stadium record crowd of 62,503. QB Rod Gerald scored on an 8-yard run. Then, Gerald faked what was a sure give to fullback Johnson and pitched to seldom-used Bob Hyatt, who raced 7 yards untouched for OSU’s second score. Tailback Jeff Logan had 160 yards on 25 carries.
“They knew doggone well Pete was going to carry the ball,” Hayes mused. “That’s why it worked so good.”
OSU ended up 9-2-1 and tied for the Big Ten title, while PSU finished the year 7-5.
* Sept. 16, 1978, at Columbus: Penn State (5) 19, Ohio State (6) 0 -- Hayes shocked everybody at Ohio Stadium by starting freshman quarterback Art Schlichter and returning starter Gerald at flanker. For dramatic effect, he pulled them aside and sent them in together.
Hayes then shocked everybody again by letting the debuting Schlichter throw 34 passes. The result: five interceptions and an easy PSU win. Matt Bahr kicked four field goals and Matt Suhey scored the game’s only touchdown.
“That was about as bad an opener as we have ever played,” Hayes said. “When you get into the passing game, you can expect that sort of thing to happen.”
The loss dropped Hayes’ record in season and Ohio Stadium openers to 23-4-1. Since this game, OSU has now won 26 straight home openers.
Penn State went on to roll all the way to a national title match-up with Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, but lost 14-7 to finish 11-1. OSU stumbled to a 7-4-1 finish, capped by the Gator Bowl loss to Clemson where Hayes was fired after punching a Clemson player following a Schlichter interception.
* Dec. 26, 1980, at Tempe, Ariz., (Fiesta Bowl): Penn State (10) 31, Ohio State (14) 19 -- OSU had the only meeting between the schools on a neutral field under control after piling up 339 yards total offense and building a 19-10 halftime lead. But PSU scored three unanswered touchdowns behind QB Todd Blackledge and TB Curt Warner in the second half.
Schlichter finished with 302 yards passing and three touchdowns, including two to Doug Donley, for coach Earle Bruce’s Buckeyes, who ended up 9-3. PSU finished up 10-2.
* Oct. 30, 1993, at Columbus: Ohio State (3) 24, Penn State (12) 6 -- This remains one of the biggest games in Ohio Stadium history as the long awaited first Big Ten meeting between these two tradition-rich schools. And on a rainy/snowy day -- what a difference 10 years makes, because it is to be 65 Saturday at the Horseshoe -- OSU moved a step closer to its first Big Ten title in seven years with a resounding win.
TB Raymont Harris carried 32 times for 159 yards and a touchdown for the Buckeyes. Joey Galloway caught a 25-yard TD pass from Bret Powers and Butler By’not’e added a 4-yard TD run. OSU went on to finish 10-1-1 after a Holiday Bowl win over BYU. PSU, which mustered just two field goals, ended up 10-2.
* Oct. 29, 1994, at University Park, Pa: Penn State (1) 63, Ohio State (21) 14 -- In a season of great performances, top-ranked Penn State probably had its greatest in this win over the Buckeyes. Ki-Jana Carter, who grew up just 10 miles from the OSU campus in Westerville, blistered OSU for 137 yards and four touchdowns. QB Kerry Collins threw for 265 yards and two scores. PSU jumped out to a 35-0 lead and never looked back.
PSU outgained OSU 572-214. The Nittany Lions went on to finish 12-0, winning the Big Ten and defeating Oregon in the Rose Bowl. But Nebraska claimed the consensus national championship. OSU ended up 9-4.
* Oct. 7, 1995, at University Park, Pa.: Ohio State (5) 28, Penn State (12) 25 -- OSU avenged its humiliation from a year earlier by rallying for a big win at Happy Valley. QB Bobby Hoying, who threw for 354 yards and three TDs, led OSU on a six-play, 58-yard scoring drive to the game winning points. The key play was his 32-yard pass down the middle of the field to TE Rickey Dudley, which set up Eddie George’s 6-yard TD run with 1:42 left.
“What a great victory for the Buckeyes,” said OSU coach John Cooper. “It doesn’t get much better than that, guys, over here in Happy Valley.”
When asked about the Big Ten race, Cooper replied, “All you got to do is win. Just keep winning, baby.”
But OSU dropped the season finale to Michigan to finish second in the Big Ten, then lost to Tennessee in the Citrus Bowl to end up 11-2. PSU finished 9-3.

Eddie George celebrates with the team (at PSU in 1995)
* Oct. 5, 1996, at Columbus: Ohio State (3) 38, Penn State (4) 7 -- OSU QB Stanley Jackson completed 11 of 22 passes for 169 yards and two TDs. Flanker Dimitrious Stanley caught five passes for 105 yards and two TDs. Tailback Pepe Pearson added 141 yards and a TD on 28 carries.
Again, a season-ending loss to Michigan cost OSU a shot at the national title. But the Buckeyes did defeat Arizona State in the Rose Bowl to finish 11-1. PSU finished up 11-2 after beating Texas in the Fiesta Bowl.
* Oct. 11, 1997, at University Park, Pa.: Penn State (2) 31, Ohio State (7) 27 -- Ohio State drew ahead 27-17 in the third quarter, only to watch PSU rally for two touchdowns and the win. PSU running backs Curtis Enis (23 carries, 211 yards, 1 TD) and Aaron Harris (12 carries, 96 yards, 2 TDs) bulled their way over the Buckeyes. Harris bounced off several OSU defenders on a 51-yard TD run late in the third quarter, while Enis did likewise on his 26-yard game winner with 10:31 left in the game.
Ohio State outgained PSU 565-445 … and lost the game. OSU threw for 459 yards with Joe Germaine relieving Jackson and completing 29 of 43 passes for 378 yards with two touchdowns and two interceptions. David Boston had 14 catches for 153 yards and a TD.
Michigan, on its way to a national title, ended up doing both PSU and OSU in later in the season. PSU ended up 9-3, while OSU finished 10-3 after a Sugar Bowl loss to Florida State.
* Oct. 3, 1998, at Columbus: Ohio State (1) 28, Penn State (7) 9 -- On a rainy day at the Horseshoe, OSU’s defense and special teams were opportunistic. LB Jerry Rudzinski recovered a fumble by PSU quarterback Kevin Thompson in the end zone and Percy King blocked a punt which teammate Joe Cooper recovered for a touchdown. Germaine threw for 213 yards, including a 20-yard TD to Michael Wiley.
OSU’s national title dreams were derailed by Michigan State. But OSU rebounded to defeat Michigan and Texas A&M in the Sugar Bowl to finish up 11-1 and No. 2 nationally. PSU finished up 9-3.
* Oct. 16, 1999, at University Park, Pa.: Penn State (2) 23, Ohio State (18) 10 -- Penn State was dominant, outgaining OSU 422-143. TB Eric McCoo carried 22 times for 211 yards. OSU got its only touchdown when Gary Berry recovered a Thompson fumble in the end zone.
PSU got as far as 9-0 before late-season losses to Minnesota, Michigan and Michigan State stopped its Big Ten and national title hopes. An Alamo Bowl win over Texas A&M left the Lions at 10-3. OSU finished up 6-6 and missed a bowl game for the first time since 1988.
* Sept. 23, 2000, at Columbus: Ohio State (14) 45, Penn State 6 -- This game was delayed 20 minutes by a thunderstorm. OSU’s dominating performance (Buckeyes led in yardage 397-213) was clouded, though, by the serious neck injury suffered by PSU freshman defensive back Adam Taliaferro late in the game.
OSU ended up 8-4 with Cooper being fired after an embarrassing Outback Bowl loss to South Carolina. PSU ended up 5-7, its first losing season since 1988 and just the second under Paterno.

Paterno makes a splash with his record-breaking win
* Oct. 27, 2001, at University Park, Pa.: Penn State 29, Ohio State 27 -- Ohio State was on the wrong side of history as Paterno’s Lions rallied from down 18 to win in dramatic fashion and give their coach sole possession of the Division I-A record for career coaching wins with 324.
Jim Tressel made his debut in this rivalry and OSU looked good in the third quarter after extending a 13-9 halftime lead to 27-9 early when Jonathan Wells ripped off a 65-yard TD run and Derek Ross returned an interception of a Zack Mills pass 45 yards for a score. But Mills had the last laugh as he shrugged off three picks to complete 17 of 32 passes for 280 yards and two scores. Mills also rushed for 138 yards, including a 69-yard TD. His 14-yard pass to McCoo with 14:47 left accounted for the margin of victory.
OSU, which ended up Tressel’s first year 7-5, missed a late chance to win when Mike Nugent’s 34-yard field goal with 2:55 left was blocked. QB Steve Bellisari threw for 209 yards, including four balls for 172 yards to Michael Jenkins (66-yard TD).
Penn State ended the year 5-6.
* Oct. 26, 2002, at Columbus: Ohio State (4) 13, Penn State (18) 7 -- This was a great defensive struggle with OSU moving a step closer to a Big Ten and national title on Chris Gamble’s 40-yard interception return for a touchdown in the third quarter. Nugent also booted a pair of 37-yard field goals for the Buckeyes. Mills finished 14 of 28 passing for 98 yards and three picks.
OSU rolled all the way to a 14-0 mark, winning the national title after a Fiesta Bowl win over Miami (Fla.). PSU finished 9-4 after a Capital One Bowl loss to Auburn.
* Nov. 1, 2003, at University Park, Pa.: Ohio State (8) 21, Penn State 20: With starting quarterback Craig Krenzel ailing with a concussion and OSU trailing 17-7, backup Scott McMullen came on and helped guide the Buckeyes to a victory. He was 12 of 17 passing for 111 yards and two touchdowns. He was a perfect 7 of 7 on the game-winning touchdown drive as OSU drove 72 yards before he hit Jenkins with a 5-yard TD and Mike Nugent tacked on the PAT for the go-ahead point with 1:35 left. Jenkins earlier had a 4-yard TD catch.
PSU’s David Kimball missed a 60-yard field goal that would have won it on the final play. Instead, it was another bitter loss for the Lions, who would go on to finish 3-9 overall and 1-7 in Big Ten play.
Lydell Ross added 110 yards and a touchdown rushing for OSU. Alan Zemaitis returned a Krenzel interception 78 yards for a touchdown for Penn State. Mills once again riddled OSU, completing 27 of 42 passes for 253 yards with a touchdown and an interception.
OSU went on to finish 11-2 overall after a Fiesta Bowl win over Kansas State. The Buckeyes were second in the Big Ten at 6-2.
* Oct. 30, 2004, at Columbus: Ohio State 21, Penn State 10 -- OSU was outgained 243-202 in total offense. But the Buckeyes scored one touchdown each on offense, defense and special teams to cruise to the win.
Ted Ginn Jr. had a 67-yard punt return for a touchdown, Tyler Everett brought an interception back 24 yards for a score and Branden Joe tallied on a 4-yard TD run for the Buckeyes.
This game marked just the second time in 12 meetings as Big Ten rivals that neither team came into the game ranked.
OSU went on to finish 8-4 overall after an Alamo Bowl win over Oklahoma State. Penn State finished 4-7, including 2-6 in Big Ten play.

Ginn returns punt 67 yards for TD vs. PSU
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sandgk · Oct 3, 2005

I felt one good point was made by the commentators in the Minny PSU game. Talking of the crop of Freshmen receivers and speed-guys and their crisp play, they have yet to face up to a defense that will challenge them at the line. Add to that the Buckeyes ability to contain a running QB and we could easily see a tilting of the table by our defense.

Minnesota came into the game with a mid-level defensive ranking (in the 50's out of 117), which was earned against relatively weak opposition. They lived down to that ranking in the biggest way, allowing Penn State to rack up 539 yards in total offense. Meanwhile Minny's vaunted rushing ofense was kept in check by the Penn State D.

We need a balanced attack against Penn State. But, if the D can take away the run then we make the mistake prone Robinson try to beat us through the air. Picks will result I believe.

osugrad21 · Oct 3, 2005

PSU Collegian

10/3

Victory earns PSU spot on ESPN show

By Tim Ford
Collegian Staff Writer
A 5-0 start will get you a lot of things in the world of college football.

After the best start since 1999, No. 16 Penn State will host ESPN's weekly college football preview show, ESPN College GameDay. Each week, the program begins at 10:30 a.m.

"We try to go to the most intriguing match-up of the week," Associate Manager for ESPN Communications Mac Nwulu said. "Penn State is a big story line in college football right now."

Nwulu didn't think that a visit to central Pennsylvania would've been likely at the beginning of the season.

"We always try to find a new site or a site we haven't been to in a while," he said.

College football analysts Chris Fowler, Lee Corso and Kirk Herbstreit -- the usual GameDay jockeys -- should roll into State College on Friday.

Nwulu said GameDay will tape analysis for a portion of ESPN's SportsCenter the night before the Nittany Lions kickoff against No. 6 Ohio State. He also indicated that Friday night's taping will take place around 5 p.m.

Penn State Sports Information Director Jeff Nelson said he hadn't been contacted regarding the show.

"I hadn't heard that," Nelson said. "There's really nothing for me to say until I get verification from the producer."

Herbstreit, a former quarterback at Ohio State, and Corso, a former head coach at Indiana, are not particularly popular among Big Ten crowds.

"Can I kick him in the balls?" Elizabeth Whipple (senior-kinesiology) said about Corso. "Whatever team he used to coach, we used to beat them all the time."

The Lions are 10-0 against the Hoosiers. Corso never coached against the Lions while at Indiana, but he battled Lions coach Joe Paterno when Corso was the quarterback's coach at Maryland.

Not all students were criticizing Corso and Herbstreit.

"I'm stoked," Andrew Gorman (senior-political science) said.

Gorman added that he would be posting the information on FightOnState.com immediately.

"It should be interesting to see what goes on," Martin Shelton (senior-journalism) said. "But I'm going to be pretty hyped for the game."

Collegian writers Sirage Yassin and Justin Kunkel contributed to this report.

Pheasant · Oct 3, 2005

ThePOS said:
I will be waiting at the Beav.....

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High Lonesome · Oct 3, 2005

Magua said:
Okay, I dont know if this has been posted yet, but I did not find it. But, does anyone know where College Gameday is going to be this weekend? I know the Red River Blowout has seen it the past like 5 years, even though every year is a dissapointment. PSU is undefeated and seem to be "returning to glory" before JoePa retires. They have a massive stadium and a just overall great atmosphere there. I truely dont see this game getting out of hand either, year in and year out PSU and OSU play each other TOUGH. They also haven't been to Happy Valley in quite a while, and on top of that its a night game.

Whats everyone think?

Dont Georgia and Tennessee also play this weekend too btw?

last year it was at ucs/cal durring the RRS, the years 01,02,03 were all at the RRS and they all sucked, fwiw

ThePOS · Oct 3, 2005

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Love, Peace, and Chicken Grease Homies.

PS: I'll be waiting at the Beav....

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