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Game Thread Game Eight: #1 Ohio State 44, Indiana 3 (10/21/06)

JonathanXC;641012; said:
I've search the thread a bit...can't find anything on this. Did we punt on 3rd down? The penalties were during the play.

DocJohn;641083; said:
I believe when the ref announced the penalty, he said "after the play" and
assessed the "dead-ball" offsetting penalties, which would mean that the down (in this case 2nd down) counted. However, he finished by saying "the
down is TWO." I think he was just mistaken on the down ... thinking it
had been 1st down instead of second.

I only heard this on radio, so maybe one of you guys who recorded the game
could clear this up. The announcers I heard didn't seem to notice the
mistake. The play was followed by an incomplete pass on 3rd down and the
punt on fourth.

He definitely said that the offsetting penalties occured during the play and that the down would be second. Someone in 11D (possibly me:paranoid: ) was throwing a temper tantrum about the lost down. Nobody around me seemed to notice or care.
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Thump;641178; said:
Haven't read the entire thread and sure this has been said but Indiana's QB REALLY impressed me with his elusiveness.
Agreed, but unfortunately for him, he plays for Indiana. Unless Hoeppner can find 21 other kids to play football, IU will just be a one man show, and that just won't fly in the Big Ten.

Antwaan Randle El was an impressive, elusive QB too, and was even the Big Ten Player of the Year and a 1st Team All American as a senior, yet the teams he starred on went 4-7, 4-7, 3-8, and 5-6.
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Bucky Katt;641162; said:
He definitely said that the offsetting penalties occured during the play and that the down would be second. Someone in 11D (possibly me:paranoid: ) was throwing a temper tantrum about the lost down. Nobody around me seemed to notice or care.

I think I had given the official the benefit of the doubt, for some reason. I didn't hear him call the penalties "dead-ball" penalties. But I just assumed that's what he meant.

And did he actually say, "during the play?" I re-watched the game later and I thought he just said that they were off-setting personnal fouls, and didn't specify "during" or "after" the play.
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Zurp;641365; said:
I think I had given the official the benefit of the doubt, for some reason. I didn't hear him call the penalties "dead-ball" penalties. But I just assumed that's what he meant.

And did he actually say, "during the play?" I re-watched the game later and I thought he just said that they were off-setting personnal fouls, and didn't specify "during" or "after" the play.

I'm about 99% sure he said "during the play."
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Bucky Katt;641370; said:
I'm about 99% sure he said "during the play."

My guess, then, is that he didn't intend to say that.

Either that, or they decided to take the challenge of stopping Ohio State's offense. They're the best defense Ohio State's faced, so far.
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NJ-Buckeye;639950; said:
the web says we've run every play in this drive up the middle...
so have we confirmed Cordle is at center?
and who are the guards?

The normal backup rotation was in for a couple drives: Schafer-Mitchum-Cordle-Person-Skinner.

Not sure exactly when the switch occurred, but they got Schafer out (he'd played a lot with the first unit due to Downing's hot-headedness) and the line looked like this:
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Zurp;641377; said:
My guess, then, is that he didn't intend to say that.

Except that the entire statement made sense. "During the play, off-setting penalties, still 2nd down." And the penalties did occur during the play, not in a dead-ball type situation. (I assumed it was a holding call based solely on when and where the flag was thrown.)

Oh,well....whatever....not important. It's nice to worry about silly little things like this instead of discussing the need for an offensive coordinator. :groove:
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I believe when the ref announced the penalty, he said "after the play" and
assessed the "dead-ball" offsetting penalties, which would mean that the down (in this case 2nd down) counted. However, he finished by saying "the
down is TWO." I think he was just mistaken on the down ... thinking it
had been 1st down instead of second.

I only heard this on radio, so maybe one of you guys who recorded the game
could clear this up. The announcers I heard didn't seem to notice the
mistake. The play was followed by an incomplete pass on 3rd down and the
punt on fourth.
I have the game on DVR. The ref clearly says, "during the play." And the flag was thrown during the play.
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Troy and pals trample Indiana

David Briggs

As the crowd leisurely filtered into Ohio Stadium during Saturday's first quarter, the Ohio State offense politely waited.

And waited. Hardly resembling the Big Ten's all-time passing efficiency leader, Troy Smith missed wide on his first four passes as the Buckeyes left the field after their first two possessions without a first down. They even found themselves trailing late in the first quarter for just the third time this year.

It turns out top-ranked OSU was just killing time before the show. Smith's worst start of the season gave way to his best showing in the Buckeyes' 44-3 dusting of Indiana (4-4, 2-2 Big Ten).
Media Credit: David Heasley
Sophomore tailback Maurice Wells runs away from the Indiana defense on Saturday.

"Some games are going to go the way you want them to go right away, some aren't," Smith said. "I wouldn't say I was out of synch."

After waiting for those last "Block O" stragglers to fill the section's last rows and giving ample time to those fans combing the area for a joint with ESPN-U, Smith tossed three of his next eight passes for scores en route to a four-touchdown first half showing that further cemented his hold as Heisman front-runner.

And with a little help from his buddy Ted Ginn Jr., who took a reverse from Smith and threw a 38-yard touchdown pass down the right sideline to tight end Rory Nicol, the Buckeyes rolled to a season-high 540 yards of offense.

OSU could do little wrong, continuing to steamroll their way - no team has come within 17 points of the Buckeyes this year into a Nov. 18 meeting with Michigan that is looking more and more certain to serve as a national semifinal game.

"After that (start), we did everything we had to do to have a decisive victory," coach Jim Tressel said.

Just as impressive on the other side, OSU's defense delivered more of the same. The Buckeyes held the opposition to a touchdown or less for the seventh time this season and imposed perpetual misery on IU quarterback Kellen Lewis.

OSU sacked the redshirt freshman and reigning Big Ten offensive player of the week four times, allowing just 165 yards of total offense.

"We were attacking well, stinting around, getting in the quarterback's mind," defensive tackle Quinn Pitcock said. "A lot of guys are stepping up through the season and making a name for themselves."

Any questions that remained for a defense replacing nine starters have been answered. OSU's 17 forced turnovers leads the Big Ten, their pass defense is third in the conference and their once-maligned play against the run gets better by the week. On Saturday, the Buckeyes held IU to minus-three rushing yards through three quarters and are now giving up less than 100 yards a game on the ground this year.
Media Credit: Matthew Hashiguchi
OSU's Vernon Gholston chases down IU quarterback Kellen Lewis.

"I'm not surprised at all," Smith said. "I probably was one of the biggest ones campaigning for the defense to let everyone know that they were not a factor we have to worry about."

It's made for a team seemingly without a weakness. Championship groups will inevitably have off games on one side of the ball, speaking to the importance of picking one another up on any given Saturday. For OSU, amid one of college football's most dominating stretches of the past two decades, that's been of little worry.

"I said all week I voted them No. 1 and nothing today changes my opinion of that," IU coach Terry Hoeppner said. "That's a very good football team."

Surprisingly, Hoeppner went on to say that OSU did nothing his coaches didn't expect - save perhaps Ginn's touchdown pass. Which is nice, but when the Buckeyes complete passes to eight different receivers, is there really a way to prepare?

"Hopefully not," said Anthony Gonzalez, who joined the aerial festivities with his five-yard touchdown catch in the second quarter.

"Well, that's the idea. That's what we're hoping to do," Gonzalez said. "That's how you know you're complete, if you can throw it to (everyone)."

"We're an equal opportunity employer," Tressel said. "We'll throw to whoever is open."

And against an Indiana defense ranked 10th in the Big Ten, this included plenty of Nicol and true freshman Jake Ballard as OSU opened the game in a two tight end set. Smith connected with an open Nicol streaking down the middle of the field for a 23-yard touchdown toss to open the Buckeyes scoring late in the first quarter. Nicol was also on the receiving end of Ginn's memorable 38-yard third quarter scoring toss down the right sideline.

Ballard made an impressive splash onto the stat sheet with a diving touchdown catch just before halftime. It was his first career catch.

Hoeppner also apparently wasn't surprised that Smith delivered another Heisman signature play - it's becoming a weekly occurrence in Buckeyeland.

This week's play came early in the second quarter as Smith rolled to his left, spun away from an Indiana defender and fired a 31-yard touchdown pass off his back foot to Ginn in the left corner of the end zone.

Smith's four touchdown passes equaled a career high.

"I watch film of other quarterbacks," Gonzalez said. "And I think, 'Wow, they're really not that good.' Really, Troy is that much better than everybody I've been seeing."

And with the rushing tandem of Antonio Pittman and freshman Chris Wells - the pair rushed for 170 yards Saturday - the same can be said for the rest of Troy's boys.

"I got to watch the best offense in the country with the best player in the country, No. 10," defensive tackle David Patterson said.

In other words, another ho hum day for No. 1. A day where little went wrong, yet still left the Buckeyes pining for more.

"I feel like we took one more step and we have to get much, much better," Tressel said.

Not exactly a pleasant thought for opposing coaches
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Saturday's lessons live a lifetime

Ryan Merrill

Ohio State's stomping of Indiana on Saturday marked the end of something. Because of outside reasons (namely the insane amount of money OSU vs. Michigan tickets are fetching on eBay), Saturday's game was my last as a student.

This year's football team and my foolish decision to pick up a second major were the main forces for my sticking around for a fifth year. If the Buckeye's were ranked #1 preseason, I figured why not add an English degree to get season tickets?

Entering OSU as a freshman in 2002, I made the foolish choice to forgo purchasing season tickets - something I'll regret until I die. The following seasons, however, my regret and anticipation continued to build and I broke down and ordered tickets. (I still hated it, nonetheless. Universities charging more than $100 for student tickets in addition to tuition is wrong. But, the beast known as the Department of Athletics must be fed.)

I didn't come to OSU for football. Originally a computer science major, I came for the research and technology opportunities. That ignorance, however, was soon to pass.

These past four autumns will be etched into my memory forever. Looking through the lens of a football Saturday, it's possible to learn a myriad of life's lessons.

� Company

The company one keeps, for example, matters most. It's those who we surround ourselves with - both in life and football games - that makes all the difference. It's possible - and I've known many friends who've done so - to sit with a group of friends who, early in the year when it's time to order football tickets, it seemed like a good idea to sit by. When the season rolls around, however, those "friends" may quickly become a constant Saturday headache. When choosing a group, choose wisely. It is, after all, a commitment one has to live with. And, like choosing a spouse, divorce from the group can be a very painful and expensive process.

� Thieves and nobles

On Saturday I was fortunate enough to have a press pass, meaning I was awarded the luxury of sitting in the press box and consuming as many vanilla Frosty's from Wendy's as I could hold down. (Unfortunately after consuming three Fix-and-Mix Frosty's by the third quarter, the Frosty machine was shut down.)

I sold my ticket to a reputable fellow, or so I thought, outside the stadium for quite a bit less than face value. It's Indiana, I figured, why bother trying to get the actual value for it? The scalper, as I later saw, was hawking my ticket for double face value.

All ticket sellers, however, are not simply out to make a quick buck. Two seasons ago, as I made my way up to the gate, a season ticket fell out of a student's back pocket and blew to the feet of a scalper. As I watched, the student - apparently drunk - didn't notice. To my amazement, the scalper picked up the student's ticket and handed it back to him. The student tried to offer the scalper money, but he refused.

� Celebrations

Victories and how we celebrate them tell a lot about one's character. Watching fans celebrate after a victory or mourn after a loss might be better than any job interview. Burning couches and flipping cars probably indicates someone not suited for a high-stress job. And someone who wears an outfit devoid of scarlet and gray to Ohio Stadium on Saturday probably isn't suited to promote a company.

Events on a given Saturday can be viewed as a microcosm to the world we live in. The lessons learned on a Saturday will be taken with me until I die. Deciding to purchase tickets and attend games has given me much greater rewards than just attending a game.

I've been through the ups and downs of the past four years, the heartaches and celebrations. And now, as my final season as a student winds down I still continue to ask myself, what other major can I pick up to stay around for one more season.
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JonathanXC;641393; said:
I have the game on DVR. The ref clearly says, "during the play." And the flag was thrown during the play.

Then Indiana had the third-best defense on the field that day. I guess we should next discuss whether Ohio State had the best, or if the officiating crew had the better defense.
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By the Numbers
By Jeff Amey

Ohio State fans across the nation had to scramble this week to catch the Buckeye's game against the Indiana Hoosiers, shown live only on ESPNU.

Despite early sluggishness by the Buckeye offense and an early 3-0 Indiana lead, Buckeye fans that weren't lucky enough to be able to watch this game live didn't have to sweat this game out watching the score ticker at the bottom of the screen during the riveting Penn State vs. Illinois game that was much more important and obviously deserved regular ESPN coverage. The Buckeye offense finally got on track midway through the first quarter and Ohio State cruised to a 44-3 win that helped ease fears of a let-down for this team down the stretch against teams that are perceived to be inferior.

The Indiana game has been an annual "get well" game for the Ohio State offense since Jim Tressel took over in 2001. This one was no different. Let's take a look at the stats.
Run/Pass Breakdown
64 Plays--540 yards--8.4 ypp
25 pass (39%)--17/25 for 268 yards 5 TD
39 runs (61%) for 272 yards 1 TD--7.0 ypc
12 Possessions
ave. of 5.3 plays--44.9 yards
ave start--OSU 31

First Down--32 Plays (50%) for 252 yards
12 pass (38%)--8/12 for 145 yards 3 TD
20 runs (62%) for 107 yards 1 TD--5.4 ypc
ave. gain of 7.9 yards

Second Down--19 Plays (30%) for 177 yards
5 pass (26%)--3/5 for 42 yards
14 runs (74%) for 135 yards--9.6 ypc
ave. of 7.2 yards to go
ave. gain of 9.3 yards

Third Down--13 Plays (20%) for 111 yards
8 pass (62%)--6/8 for 81 yards 2 TD
5 runs (38%) for 30 yards--6.0 ypc
ave. of 6.0 yards to go
ave. gain of 8.5 yards
conversions--8/13 (63%)

Playaction Passing
6/9 for 107 yards 3 TD

First Downs--21
11 by run
9 by pass
1 by penalty
Two back formations--21 plays (33%)
6 pass (29%)--5/6 for 114 yards 4 TD
15 runs (71%) for 115 yards 1 TD--7.7 ypc

Shotgun formations--16 plays (25%)
12 pass (75%)--8/12 for 97 yards
4 runs (25%) for 33 yards--8.3 ypc

One back formations--27 plays (42%)
7 pass (26%)--4/7 for 57 yards 1 TD
20 runs (74%) for 124 yards--6.2 ypc

counter/trap--1 (3%) for 3 yards--3.0 ypc
draw--2 (5%) for 10 yards--5.0 ypc
sweep--1 (3%) for 0 yards--0.0 ypc
end around--none
base/iso--2 (5%) for 4 yards--2.0 ypc
power--16 (41%) for 108 yards 1 TD--6.8 ypc
QB run/scramble--1 (3%) for 3 yards--3.0 ypc
option--4 (10%) for 33 yards--8.3 ypc
stretch--12 (31%) for 111 yards--9.3 ypc

Other Stats of Note
  • 3 offensive penalties for the game
  • Ohio State started on Indiana side of 50 one time--1 TD
  • 3/4 in red zone scoring--(3 TD)
  • zero sacks and one turnover for the game (fumble)
  • 35 of 64 offensive plays started on Indiana side of 50--(55%)
  • 16 of 64 plays went for no gain or loss--(25%)
  • number of OSU drives of 7 plays or more--5 (3 went for TD)
  • number of OSU pass attempts in second half--7
  • number of consecutive run plays called in second half--18
  • number of consecutive games Antonio Pittman ran for at least one touchdown before his streak ended against Indiana--12
  • number of offensive plays of 10 or more yards--20
The concern for Ohio State fans going into this game, despite everything the players and coaches were saying in interviews all week, was that the Buckeyes would have a hard time getting up for games considered to be easy wins going down the stretch this season. For the first seven minutes of this game, those fears seemed as if they might be well founded. The Buckeyes opened the game with two three and out possessions and spotted the Hoosiers a 3-0 lead before coming to life and putting up their highest yardage and point totals of the season. The Buckeyes completely dominated every phase of the game, and would've shut the Hoosiers out if not for an early Indiana punt return and dropped interception on the subsequent drive.

Troy Smith continued his assault on the Big Ten passing efficiency record and Heisman Trophy voters with another very productive day. He finished the game completing 15 of 23 passing for 220 yards and four touchdowns in 47 plays worth of work and despite misfiring on his first four passes of the game. He added another 39 yards on four carries, but fumbled the ball away on an option run for his only blemish of the day. He also kept his "one Heisman moment per game" streak alive with an incredible 31 yards touchdown pass to Ted Ginn off of a scramble heading to his left (he almost always scrambles to his right). Every week that goes by is a week closer to history being made as Troy is clearly the front-runner to be the first Ohio State quarterback to ever win the Heisman.

We didn't really see a whole lof of the Ohio State running game through the first three quarters of this game. 24 of the first 42 plays were called passes, but what little they did up to that point was fairly effective. Antonio Pittman finished with over 100 yards on just 15 carries, but saw his consecutive games with a touchdown run streak end at 12 games. The Wells' boys got a lot of work down the stretch in this game, as 21 of the Buckeye's last 22 plays were running plays. Chris Wells added another touchdown run to his season total with a nice 12 yard scamper for the last Buckeye points on the day. The Buckeyes finished with 272 rushing yards for the game, but 161 of those yards came on the final three drives of the game after the score was 35-3.

Overall, it was a pretty good game for the Buckeye offensive line. Not only did the Buckeyes put up over 500 yards of total offense and 272 yards rushing, but Troy Smith felt very little pressure in the passing game, and the Buckeyes controlled the line of scrimmage all game long. Considering that Indiana wasn't really known as a strong defensive team, especially up front, this wasn't much of a surprise. The main thing to take away from this game for the line was that they've gotten fairly sharp as the season has went on and eliminated much of mental penalty problem (false starts, holding) from early in the year.

For the Ohio State wide receivers, it was business as usual, except for one big play on a reverse pass from Ted Ginn to tight end Rory Nicol for a touchdown in the third quarter. Ted Ginn and Anthony Gonzalez combined for 9 catches and had a touchdown reception apiece. This was a pretty big game, however, for the Buckeye tight ends. Rory Nicol and freshman Jake Ballard combined for only three catches in the game, but all three went for touchdowns, Ballard's being the first of his career. The Buckeyes only completed 17 passes for the game, but averaged nearly 16 yards per catch on their way to nearly 300 yards passing.

Flipping to the defense, as I was watching this game I couldn't help but think back to the way they looked at the beginning of the season, and how far they've come in such a short time. It seems like just yesterday Garrett Wolfe was torching this team for almost 300 yards of offense and the Buckeyes were having a lot of trouble making tackles and stopping opposing running games. With Saturday's game, the Buckeyes have moved into the top 20 in total defense and are tied for the #1 scoring defense in the nation at 8.3 points per game. This was "just Indiana", as Buckeye and opposing team fans would be quick to point out, but the treatment the Hoosier offense got was not unlike the treatment Michigan State, Bowling Green, Iowa, Penn State, and Cincinnati got in the five games leading into this one.

The defensive line completely dominated the Indiana offensive line all game long, and forced Hoosier quarterback Kellen Lewis to run for his life on several occasions. Lewis actually made the best of it by making a few nice plays scrambling with the ball, but finished the day with negative ten yards rushing due to being sacked four times. Ohio State held the Hoosiers to only 7 yards rushing on 28 carries (which averages out to 9 inches every time they ran the ball). Quinn Pitcock, Jay Richardson, and Vernon Gholsten are making opposing offenses miserable in both the running game and pressuring the quarterback.

The player of the game when it came to defense was pretty easy to spot this week. All you had to do is watch the Hoosier with the ball get tackled, and more often than not Antonio Smith was the last one to get up off the ball carrier. He finished with 12 tackles, four for loss, one sack and one forced fumble as well as numerous big hits for the game. His play was the anchor of a solid game for the Buckeye defensive backs yet again, as they came away with two more interceptions to bring the season total to 15, and held dangerous receiver James Hardy in check with six catches for only 45 yards for the game.

This might not be the best defense Ohio State has ever fielded, but they are doing a very good job of improving while remaining opportunistic along the way. The defensive coaching staff deserve a lot of credit for turning out this group, as well as doing a great job of hiding the weaknesses this defense still has. Most fans were at least concerned about the Buckeye defense heading into this season, but I'll bet even the most optimistic Buckeye fan would've had a hard time believing the defense would be giving up the least points in the nation per game at this point in the season.

Next on the slate...Minnesota, which, in case you missed it, struggled to a 10-9 win over 1AA North Dakota State last Saturday in a game in which they were actually dominated statistically. There's not a lot to get excited about for this game, as the Buckeyes will probably be at least 30 point favorites. There's that lingering fear that some Buckeye fans might still harbor from the ghosts of upsets past, but I still don't get the feeling that this Buckeye team is headed for a let-down. The coaching staff seems to have done a good job of getting this team to understand that all of these wins would be for naught if they were to let down now. The Buckeyes should win big next week and November 18 can't get here soon enough.
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Following last week's win over Indiana, the Ohio State coaching staff selected Troy Smith as the offensive player of the game, Antonio Smith as the defensive player of the game, Brian Hartline as the special teams player of the game, Kirk Barton as the offensive lineman of the game and James Laurinaitis as the attack force player of the game. Scout team honors went to Dan Potokar on offense (for the second week in a row), Ryan Lukens on defense and De'Angelo Haslam with the scout team.

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Tuesday, October 24, 2006

ESPN blocks rerun of game

Though widely promoted, the planned rerun of the Ohio State-Indiana football game on Time Warner analog Channel 24 didn?t happen.
ESPN told Time Warner and the Ohio News Network that only the ONN rebroadcast on the digital tier would be allowed, according to Time Warner and ONN.
The Indiana game was shown live on ESPNU, a 24-hour college-sports network that isn?t offered by two of the three major cable providers in central Ohio ? including Time Warner.
ONN had acquired permission to rebroadcast the game after its end.
When officials at ESPN realized that Time Warner intended to show the rerun on both the analog and digital tiers (but carries ONN only on digital), they blocked the analog rebroadcast. ? From staff reports
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