"Tattoos aided in identifying him." That tells me that they couldn't make an ID based on posted photos...take from that what you will, but it's not good.
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Oh no, no, no. Had a friend that knew him well and didn't think this was possible. Incredibly sad news and his family is in my prayers.
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But I didn't, so it doesn't
Can't imagine how bad that last hour must've been for KK.
For anyone who reads this -- if you feel like things are insurmountable, CALL SOMEONE. You are never as alone as you feel.
For anyone who reads this -- if you feel like things are insurmountable, CALL SOMEONE. You are never as alone as you feel.
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First of all, my thoughts are with his friends and family. I hope that they, like Kosta, find peace. I can hardly imagine the second guessing that takes place among the people that are left behind when somebody commits suicide.
There was a kid at UC earlier in the year who left his friends in the middle of the night under similar circumstances. He left to supposedly search for a lost cell phone and never returned. He was found in the basement of a nearby house that was unoccupied and being renovated where he had committed suicide. When I first heard Mr. Karageorge was missing and how he had last been heard from, this type of ending was what I immediately thought of, unfortunately.
The kid at UC was not a football player, nor did he have a history of concussions. To me though, those difference only serve to underscore what is becoming more and more clear... that concussions are not just a temporary physical problem, but can also lead to a lifetime of mental illness. I think we are learning more and getting better as a society at dealing with the physical aspect of this sort of injury, but we are still woefully inadequate at addressing the mental health aspect of it.
I can't help but observe the irony of the fact that this tragedy coincided with Ohio State's game against a coach who was so cavalier in handling a concussion with one of his players. Kosta's death shows just how high the stakes can be even when you do everything right to the extent that we know how to do it, and the fact that Hoke wasn't fired on the spot and that M*ch*g*n continued to make excuses for what happened was a travesty.
I also can't help but wonder how his role as a member of the football team has had an effect. I wonder how him being a walk-on rather than a scholarship player may have made things different. I mean, with the way scholarship players are moved out of the team when they experience injury problems in order to free up open spots for recruiting, I can only wonder if walk-ons are treated differently. Maybe that's not the case, and we just never notice because we usually don't pay much attention to the comings and goings of walk-on players. Not that it would have changed his treatment or how this might have ended, but I wonder if he would have been taking hits and participating in football activities with his injury history if he weren't paying his own way. I think that's something to look at for future situations.
There was a kid at UC earlier in the year who left his friends in the middle of the night under similar circumstances. He left to supposedly search for a lost cell phone and never returned. He was found in the basement of a nearby house that was unoccupied and being renovated where he had committed suicide. When I first heard Mr. Karageorge was missing and how he had last been heard from, this type of ending was what I immediately thought of, unfortunately.
The kid at UC was not a football player, nor did he have a history of concussions. To me though, those difference only serve to underscore what is becoming more and more clear... that concussions are not just a temporary physical problem, but can also lead to a lifetime of mental illness. I think we are learning more and getting better as a society at dealing with the physical aspect of this sort of injury, but we are still woefully inadequate at addressing the mental health aspect of it.
I can't help but observe the irony of the fact that this tragedy coincided with Ohio State's game against a coach who was so cavalier in handling a concussion with one of his players. Kosta's death shows just how high the stakes can be even when you do everything right to the extent that we know how to do it, and the fact that Hoke wasn't fired on the spot and that M*ch*g*n continued to make excuses for what happened was a travesty.
I also can't help but wonder how his role as a member of the football team has had an effect. I wonder how him being a walk-on rather than a scholarship player may have made things different. I mean, with the way scholarship players are moved out of the team when they experience injury problems in order to free up open spots for recruiting, I can only wonder if walk-ons are treated differently. Maybe that's not the case, and we just never notice because we usually don't pay much attention to the comings and goings of walk-on players. Not that it would have changed his treatment or how this might have ended, but I wonder if he would have been taking hits and participating in football activities with his injury history if he weren't paying his own way. I think that's something to look at for future situations.
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Sadly, based on the texts he sent, maybe the dumpster is where he felt he belonged. I haven't felt this sad about something in a long time. It's tragic to think what this kid was going through at his age. My prayers are for family and friends, and to anyone out there that is feeling down.
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Even in the depths of darkness, there is light.
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2014/12/17/help-for-woman.html
Still, it’s not the gifts or the donations or the helping hands that make this holiday season so special — it’s finding Karageorge before that dumpster was emptied, Mulligan said.
“The most important thing for me is that God put me (there) to find closure for this family,” she said. “That’s my Christmas gift.”
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2014/12/17/help-for-woman.html
Still, it’s not the gifts or the donations or the helping hands that make this holiday season so special — it’s finding Karageorge before that dumpster was emptied, Mulligan said.
“The most important thing for me is that God put me (there) to find closure for this family,” she said. “That’s my Christmas gift.”
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