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Fans - part of the show, or not? (Split from Pryor Thread)

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Padraig;935472; said:
But how much of that sticks with a kid months after the particular visit? If a kid already loves that program, then I'm sure it can reinforce his decision. If a kid can't make up his mind between a couple schools, and one fan base is like the Cameron Crazies while the other is Golf-clap crazy, then it probably will be a factor in his decision.
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It depends upon the kid. Each recruit is a unique individual. Some think atmosphere is an important ingredient to the overall college experience, while some may not. The thread title asks if fans are part of the show...I say they are (and the above article shows that at least some recruits agree) and it's simply a matter of how big a part they play to each recruit.
 
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I think to a point it matters. Few kids want to go to college and play infront of a smaller, quieter crowd than they did in high school. Trust me Miami U wasn't much louder than my D-6 high school minus Ben's senior year. It's boring and while there are a lot of factors I think to a small point all kids get caught up in the game day magic. Whether that lasts is the real issue.
 
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so what some here are saying boils down to this

fans/alumni/students make a university great
recruits want to go to a great institution (football and school)
but fans/alumni/students have nothing to do with a recruit's decision

I understand what LJB and others are trying to say, but IMO they are wrong. Just look at what Mili posted about Will Hill. We don't have to change anything about what goes on on gameday to impress anyone (fireworks, 'off the hook' have been mentioned). We just have to do our thing and let that speak for itself.
 
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Fans are definitely a part of the magic/excitement of college football, and it would not be the same without them. I know its the players/coaches/schools that put it together on the field, but without fan support it would be much different.


And I don't know if I would go as far to say that recruits "don't care" about crazy atmospheres for where they want to play. As a 17 year old guy whos played high school football and played with/against D1 prospects, going to a school that you know is going to be National powerhouse with electricity every saturday is an awesome thing to be looking forward to.

I know that for a lot of the top recruits its almost a "business" decision on where they go, so they won't be as swayed by all of the hype as others would, but the atmosphere they go to does carry some weight.
 
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fourteenandoh;935629; said:
I understand what LJB and others are trying to say, but IMO they are wrong. Just look at what Mili posted about Will Hill.
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Will Hill was a strong Florida lean back in June - you know, a couple of months before the season started. He practically committed at the Friday Night Lights camp, and his recent visit to Gainesville was likely a formality.

If game day atmosphere were a significant factor, then Texas A+M and Clemson would get great recruiting classes every year, and USC and Miami would end up with a bunch of 2-star players.
 
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LordJeffBuck;935873; said:
Will Hill was a strong Florida lean back in June - you know, a couple of months before the season started. He practically committed at the Friday Night Lights camp, and his recent visit to Gainesville was likely a formality.

If game day atmosphere were a significant factor, then Texas A+M and Clemson would get great recruiting classes every year, and USC and Miami would end up with a bunch of 2-star players.
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Think about the recruiting classes they would have if they didn't have such a great atmosphere. Obviously, there is more than one piece to the recruiting puzzle, especially when you are talking about the elite recruits. at the top of the CFB food chain where programs are very close to each other all factors come into play. If a recruit had OSU and Miami equal in their minds as far as program, geography, coaching, facilities etc before his official visit and the one to miami sucked and the one to OSU was amazing that would probably be enough to push him to OSU. As far as "the show" that is the official visit goes, fans play a part IMO.
 
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What is "the show"? I suppose each can have a different definition of what "the show" is, I can only give mine.

"The show", to me, is everything involved on Saturday afternoons in the Shoe. The team, coaches, band, historical Ohio Stadium, and the fans/students/alumni in attendance. Each of these is singularly is not "the show", it is all put together that makes "the show".

All items that for me constitute "the show" also, on some level, illustrates what it means to be part of the Buckeye family. I believe that JT stresses with his players that they are part of something bigger than themselves (or the football program for that matter), that they are part of a huge and vast family...The Ohio State family.

So while I believe that fans at a game are part of "the show", singularly they are not "the show". A prospective recruit that would be swayed to OSU simply due to game atmosphere doesn't, IMO, get what it means to be a Buckeye. And maybe that is why JT encourages those recruits who are swept up in things during an official visit during a game, and want to commit on the spot, to go home and think about it a little bit.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;935431; said:
To be fair, for those who don't know how this started, LJB's point (as posted in my first post above) is that the fans do not have any influence over whether a recruit signs with a school, and not that fans, alum, etc. have NO value at all.
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I think its unfair to think every recruit would think the same. I'll say this, if a recruit walked into Ohio Stadium, and the crowd was just out of it.. or half the stadium was empty.. it wouldn't make or break it, but it would have a negative impact.

While we are not the show, it dosen't hurt.. and i would argue it does make a diffrence to some recruits. Not all, not the majority, but some.

Plus, it matters in NCAA 08.. fan base being "elite" btw. :biggrin:
 
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the fans are definitely part of the show. the team feeds off the crowd's energy, and vice versa. why do you think Tressel cajoles the fans to show up early, be loud, and stay late?

same applies to a rock concert... especially those of the jam band variety.l
 
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LordJeffBuck;935873; said:
If game day atmosphere were a significant factor, then Texas A+M and Clemson would get great recruiting classes every year, and USC and Miami would end up with a bunch of 2-star players.
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Apparently you aren't too familiar with the women over in SoCal...

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From Terrelle:
The game told me a lot about Penn State. The students have a lot of fire and when I walked into the stadium before the game, they started chanting my name. That was an experience.
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[scolding voice] You guys gotta wake up and see that, you the fans.. are not the show [/scolding out]
 
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Bleed S & G;942160; said:
From Terrelle:


[scolding voice] You guys gotta wake up and see that, you the fans.. are not the show [/scolding out]
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If you think that weighs more on his mind than the performance of the team, uncertainty at the coaching positions, gameplanning, etc. etc. than I think you are sadly mistaken.

I dont think anyone said that the fans and such weren't a factor, just not as big as some make them out to be.
 
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