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Biggest regress I’ve noticed this season is the DE on coach Patricia’s side of the ball. We’ve had o-line issues in recent years. Maybe the Bosa’s and Chase Young spoiled us, but I don’t see the swim technique, nor the hit and spin, or even any last second defensive shifting like we’ve seen in the past. Maybe youth, speed, not sure. But, after seeing what Downs, Reese, and Styles have done in their short NFL careers, I can see why this unit took a step back. I also would like to see more aggressive DB play. Follow through on tackles. That one handed EZ catch by Oregon could’ve easily been knocked free if a tackle happens. Out DB literally raised his hands like he was afraid of a PI call. And for the love of God, go back to teaching these guys how to wrap instead of throwing their weight into the defender. Literally letting other teams gain a few extras using this approach. Wrap and pull.
 
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Illini Dylan said:
I've only watched a couple OSU games from start to finish, one of those being Illinois, have special teams really been hurting you guys that much?

But to be frank most of us here weren't sad to see him go last year, I was surprised it was OSU that took him.
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Other than a missed field goal in the Texas game, I wouldn't say that special teams have directly cost them a game. And that's one of just two misses for Hawkins all season. That loss is way more on the o/d collapsing in the 4th quarter than on 1 missed kick. Place kicking has generally been fine. Kickoffs have been fine. Very few kick off returns so kick coverage hasn't been an issue.

But kick returns are nothing. Punt returns are nothing other than penalties. Punting has been consistently awful -- they can't pin the oppenent inside the 10 to save their lives. Punt coverage hasn't been special and they gave up a long one last week against USC on a terrible punt. And then of course they got torched on the fake punt by Oregon on Saturday.

3 really bad plays (miss against UT, punt return by USC, fake punt by Oregon) but plenty of plays that aren't game-changers but are still bad. Poor decisions by kick returners. Punts from the 45 that should be inside the 5 or 10 being caught at the 20, formation penalties, holding penalties on returns. Just consistently giving away 10-20 yards of field position on every punt/return.

And they've had no game changing plays for the good. I think there's been one decent punt return all season?

Place-kicking has been pretty good is the absolute best I can say for OSU special teams. Nothing else will be positive.
 
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Fungo Squiggly said:
Other than a missed field goal in the Texas game, I wouldn't say that special teams have directly cost them a game. And that's one of just two misses for Hawkins all season. That loss is way more on the o/d collapsing in the 4th quarter than on 1 missed kick. Place kicking has generally been fine. Kickoffs have been fine. Very few kick off returns so kick coverage hasn't been an issue.

But kick returns are nothing. Punt returns are nothing other than penalties. Punting has been consistently awful -- they can't pin the oppenent inside the 10 to save their lives. Punt coverage hasn't been special and they gave up a long one last week against USC on a terrible punt. And then of course they got torched on the fake punt by Oregon on Saturday.

3 really bad plays (miss against UT, punt return by USC, fake punt by Oregon) but plenty of plays that aren't game-changers but are still bad. Poor decisions by kick returners. Punts from the 45 that should be inside the 5 or 10 being caught at the 20, formation penalties, holding penalties on returns. Just consistently giving away 10-20 yards of field position on every punt/return.

And they've had no game changing plays for the good. I think there's been one decent punt return all season?

Place-kicking has been pretty good is the absolute best I can say for OSU special teams. Nothing else will be positive.
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If you want a stat that doesn't involve field goal kicking- OSU was 28th in the country in Net Field Position going into the Oregon debacle per BCF toys. Not awful but not elite by any stretch.

Looking at 5 factors from Game on Paper tells a little darker story:
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Aside from that, there have been so many dumb penalties and mistakes on that side of it this year, I know Ramsey has a pretty good list going at 11W.

Lanning saying he waited all year to find a team they could run that fake on was the ultimate kick in the balls imo.
 
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