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Espin. Over Signing Bowl. Rematch Jan. 9th. Satan Vs the Mad Hatter

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If it's 6-3 at half time millions will turn it off. It would be the best thing that could happen. Fans don't like defense. But you just know ABC/ESPiN will hype it big time leading up to the game. :(
 
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Systems_id;2057585; said:
The double standards are absolutely hilarious when it comes to the SEC. Okie State has a better strength of schedule AND more quality wins than Alabama yet they get screwed.
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I think a reasonable case can be made that Alabama belongs in the game ahead of OK State. Sure, OK State has more quality wins - plus there's the rematch factor - but they've also got a much worse loss. I think that does, and should, factor in considerably. Even if you credit the idea that they lost to ISU because their women's basketball coach had just died (which I don't, really), they still lost to a weak opponent.

edit: And while I probably won't be watching, solely due to lack of interest in the outcome, I'm kind of surprised so many Buckeye fans find football games dominated by defense to be boring. It's not as if Alabama and LSU's offenses are completely inept, it's just that their defenses are much better. Nothing wrong with a mashing defensive slugfest, in my book.
 
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Taosman;2057650; said:
If it's 6-3 at half time millions will turn it off. It would be the best thing that could happen. Fans don't like defense. But you just know ABC/ESPiN will hype it big time leading up to the game. :(
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Here's hoping Alabama wins 9-6 to force a split National Championship. Maybe even three ways if OSU dominates Stanford.

zincfinger;2057668; said:
I think a reasonable case can be made that Alabama belongs in the game ahead of OK State. Sure, OK State has more quality wins - plus there's the rematch factor - but they've also got a much worse loss. I think that does, and should, factor in considerably. Even if you credit the idea that they lost to ISU because their women's basketball coach had just died (which I don't, really), they still lost to a weak opponent.

edit: And while I probably won't be watching, solely due to lack of interest in the outcome, I'm kind of surprised so many Buckeye fans find football games dominated by defense to be boring. It's not as if Alabama and LSU's offenses are completely inept, it's just that their defenses are much better. Nothing wrong with a mashing defensive slugfest, in my book.
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ISU isn't even that bad this year, they're ranked either in the high 20s or 30s. Not a world beater of course but it wasn't like USC losing to 40 pt underdog Stanford. And sorry, I think "B-b-b-but OSU has a worse lost" argument is BS. Every freaking year since 2006 I had to hear the argument "The SEC is the toughest conference! It's tough to go unscathed with such a difficult schedule" yet now, when that shoe is on the other foot, that argument is invalid? Horseshit. Sorry, OSU has a better resume than Alabama and Alabama already had their chance, at their place mind you, and blew it. This rematch is total crap.
 
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ISU isn't even that bad this year, they're ranked either in the high 20s or 30s. Not a world beater of course but it wasn't like USC losing to 40 pt underdog Stanford. And sorry, I think "B-b-b-but OSU has a worse lost" argument is BS. Every freaking year since 2006 I had to hear the argument "The SEC is the toughest conference! It's tough to go unscathed with such a difficult schedule" yet now, when that shoe is on the other foot, that argument is invalid? Horseshit. Sorry, OSU has a better resume than Alabama and Alabama already had their chance, at their place mind you, and blew it. This rematch is total crap.
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I don't know where ISU is "ranked", but they didn't receive any votes in the final AP poll (unsurprising, given their 6-6 record). Plus, they're ISU. But the fact remains that a game at Ames is a much easier one than a game hosting LSU. And I'm not sure how "the shoe is on the other foot" as regards the SEC strength of schedule argument. I'm not talking about overall conference strength here, I'm talking about the one loss for each team. But if you want to look at overall conference strength, the shoe's on the same foot where it's always been, and nobody's reversing course on previous arguments.
 
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jwinslow;2057674; said:
Jordan Jefferson is quite inept.
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He may be, and I'm not saying their offenses are outstanding, just not inept, as units overall. I haven't really watched either team play this year, other than a few minutes, but just given the fact that they were able to put up decent point totals against most opponents, I'm assuming both offenses, as a whole, rise above the level of ineptitude. I've seen inept offense. It doesn't score 30-40 points on a routine basis.
 
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I won't watch. I didn't watch the first one. I have no interest in watching a belated SEC West Conference Championship game.

This game totally diminishes winning a conference. Why should you care to win your conference now when all you have to do is be in the same conference and division as the #1 team in the polls, lose to them, not even represent your conference division in the CCG, yet still get to have a rematch against the team that already beat you in the MNCG? I wasn't good enough for people in 2006, why should we have to see it this year?

My feelings: The BCS proponents have long touted the regular season as a playoff, hence why there should be no real playoff. LSU beat Bama in their "playoff" game. Why does Bama deserve a "do-over" and lock out Ok State from their shot?

I think the only bowl I will be watching this year is the Gator Bowl.

Like some have said before, my interest in college football is waning pretty fast anymore with all of the stupid bullshit that goes on anymore.
 
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zincfinger;2057668; said:
I think a reasonable case can be made that Alabama belongs in the game ahead of OK State. Sure, OK State has more quality wins - plus there's the rematch factor - but they've also got a much worse loss. I think that does, and should, factor in considerably. Even if you credit the idea that they lost to ISU because their women's basketball coach had just died (which I don't, really), they still lost to a weak opponent.
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But they didn't lose at home and they did win their conference. Two things Alabama cannot say.

edit: And while I probably won't be watching, solely due to lack of interest in the outcome, I'm kind of surprised so many Buckeye fans find football games dominated by defense to be boring. It's not as if Alabama and LSU's offenses are completely inept, it's just that their defenses are much better. Nothing wrong with a mashing defensive slugfest, in my book.
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I agree. I don't mind a defensive slugfest. I'm just not interested in seeing a rematch that wasn't determined on the field but rather selected in a board room. The system is what it is and I don't believe any team deserves a do over.
 
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Never underestimate the importance of Alabama being ranked #2 in the preseason polls. Humans find it difficult to let go of their preconceptions and will jump at any opportunity to validate them.
 
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Jake;2057718; said:
Never underestimate the importance of Alabama being ranked #2 in the preseason polls. Humans find it difficult to let go of their preconceptions and will jump at any opportunity to validate them.
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what are you talking about ... humans are never wrong :paranoid:
 
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