Did UT back its way into the NC game?

[Woody1968]

They aren't leaving out the SEC champs for a team who barely beat anyone with a pulse, imo. Half the preview shows even admitted that they'd still vote UF into the title game with 1 loss as long as they won the CCG. GTech might be different, but the big east is often 1 team and a pile of mediocre squads.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that. I'm pretty sure the point Florida would have gotten for the loss would have eliminated them, but it's academic. Texas and Alabama are both undefeated.

 

[cincibuck]

Seriously, who else would you have put there? I don't care how good they are you can't compare an undefeated Boise State/TCU/BYU/Cincinnati with an undefeated team from a conference with as much overall talent as the Big 12. I'd even say a one or two loss team from an established conference.

This is not to say that those teams aren't talented. They are. Can those teams win a big bowl game? Sure, but they haven't gone through a season of matching up with top fifty programs for four, five, six weeks in a row.

 

[jwinslow]

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

I'm surprised that this point hasn't already been made (I actually would be less surprised to find out that I missed it in reading through the thread).


Texas backed in, only if you accept that Ohio State backed into the Title Game in the 2002 season. We had 7 close calls, many of them against unranked opponents. Not all of the games were devoid of controversy (albeit whiny Illinibrat controversy. And in the last game of the regular season, a vastly inferior opponent had a chance to throw the ball into the end-zone for the upset.

But I don't for one second accept that the Buckeyes backed in 7 years ago; so Texas didn't back in this year.

But BKB put it much better...


NOW

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[itownbuckeye]

Cincy, BSU, and TCU also finished with perfect records and Cincy played an outstanding game to the Pitt Panthers who were by the way ranked in the top 20 and not an unranked Nebraska team.

I thought Cincy was less than impressive and fortunate to win against an average team. Pitt may have been ranked in the top 20 but I would pick Nebraska if they were playing in a head to head. Also, it should be noted that Cincy gave up 80 combined points in their last two games against two teams who are not exactly offsensive juggernauts (Illinois & Pitt).

Texas deserves to play in the title game.

 

[Woody1968]

I'm surprised that this point hasn't already been made (I actually would be less surprised to find out that I missed it in reading through the thread).


Texas backed in, only if you accept that Ohio State backed into the Title Game in the 2002 season. We had 7 close calls, many of them against unranked opponents. Not all of the games were devoid of controversy (albeit whiny Illinibrat controversy. And in the last game of the regular season, a vastly inferior opponent had a chance to throw the ball into the end-zone for the upset.

But I don't for one second accept that the Buckeyes backed in 7 years ago; so Texas didn't back in this year.

But BKB put it much better...


NOW

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That was completely different. Miami and Ohio State were the only undefeateds.

The OP is making the argument, which I disagree with, that Texas played so poorly, one of the other 3 undefeateds shouls have replased them in the title game.

 

[Woody1968]

I thought Cincy was less than impressive and fortunate to win against an average team. Pitt may have been ranked in the top 20 but I would pick Nebraska if they were playing in a head to head. Also, it should be noted that Cincy gave up 80 combined points in their last two games against two teams who are not exactly offsensive juggernauts (Illinois & Pitt).

Texas deserves to play in the title game.

I agree, and it should be noted that Nebraska was not unranked.

 

[Steve19]

Back its way....NO

 

[Jake]

The question is valid.

It is?

Saying someone "backed in" to a bid is like declaring someone is "overrated" or not. It is completely subjective. There is no actual answer.

They all played 13 games. The voters said Texas got a bid and the computers didn't carry enough weight to change it. It is what it is. :ohwell:

 

[mendensa]

It is?

They all played 13 games. The voters said Texas got a bid and the computers didn't carry enough weight to change it. It is what it is. :ohwell:

I knew that line would pop up some where in this conversation. That's everybody's explanation to any question these days where the answer sucks, we don't neccesarily agree w/ it but can't do anything about it. The BCS is a joke. I'm sure it will get another reactionary tweak like it does every few years before any big changes are made w/ the current system we have. I'm holding on to the thought that maybe in my lifetime the college football post-season will be as exciting as it could be.

 

[Jagdaddy]

I didn't see it myself, I had just returned from a friend's daughter's bat mitzvah. So, they did use some "official" source, it sounds like. I heard Herbie say that it's pretty clear the 1 second remaining call was correct - in terms of The ball hitting the ground, and there was 1 tick left. So, if that's the case, I say "fine"

That said, if they walked off the field and said "it's over" I wouldn't have questioned it. I've seen that last second tick off hundreds of times after the ball was "Dead"

The real question is whether, if Texas beats Alabama, Skip Bayless will spend the next decade ranting about the call that "gave" them the national championship . . .

 

[CentralMOBuck]

Texas quarterback Colt McCoy says he didn't know rule about stopping clock - ESPN

Sounds like Colt's got a little Donovan McNabb in him.

 

[BrutusBobcat]

The Fix was in. It was a gimme by the Big 12. And the refs and replay officials were front and center. What is one of the first things they teach referees?
Don't let your call decide a game at the end.

Taosman's Razor: If two theories will explain a phenomenon, then the theory which involves the larger conspiracy and most nefarious motives is the most likely to be true. :tongue2:

Seriously...do you really believe that the game was fixed?? You can watch the replay and see that the ball hit the ground with 0:01 left. Before that, the Nebraska kicker is the one who didn't deliver a good kickoff...was he paid, or was there a Big 12 official in his ear? Who forced the Nebraska defender to horsecollar the Texas WR? You can't call a penalty if it doesn't happen (*cough* Terryporter *cough* /daUfans).

Speaking of Terry Porter, he clearly did not go to the Taos, NM school of college football officiating.

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

That was completely different. Miami and Ohio State were the only undefeateds.

The OP is making the argument, which I disagree with, that Texas played so poorly, one of the other 3 undefeateds shouls have replased them in the title game.

There are two undefeateds from legitimate BCS conferences this year.

I completely dismiss the thought that going undefeated in the Mtn. West, WAC or Big East puts you in the discussion when there are undefeated teams from the SEC and Big 12. Debate it all you want. The lesser conferences are getting way too much respect, even to the point that some people are suggesting that they get equal consideration. I simply say "No, next question".